>>1041615>I never implied the US could stop death itself from happening. I am specifically talking about deaths from the COVID19 virus only. I figured that was obvious, but now it's been clarified.
You're missing the point. If the US had taken zero measures, some number of people would have died. Each effective measure against covid results in fewer people dying than the 'zero measures' case. If you want to say that the difference between the minimum possible, and the max possible, is the government's fault, then that's fine, but there's still a threshold, because the minimum possible is not zero. Because it is completely unreasonable to say that 100% of US covid deaths are the fault of the US government. And even among deaths you might consider preventable, some proportion can be attributed to problems in the global response, and the resulting misinformation.>People unable to get treatment or testing because of lack of funds are vectors for the virus.
I've not heard this as a concern from anyone but yourself. Do tests where you live cost money to the person being tested? Because where I am, they don't. What sort of treatments are people not undergoing due to lack of funds? Are people choosing to die at home, rather than go to the hospital when they have pneumonia? Or are there problems not related to 'universal healthcare' that are being conflated in your statement?>I have not once spoken Trump's name. The only mentions of Trump I can find in this thread are you. Just now.
Come on. You take every opportunity possible to disparage the Orange Man. Do you expect me to believe you aren't blaming Trump personally? When you say 'the government' but provide no specific examples?>Financial aid for those impacted by the virus and stay-at-home orders, and for those needing testing and treatment.
Well I'll have to disagree with you there. For one, testing and treatment doesn't factor into personal costs for all but a tiny fraction of people. As far as stay at home orders, it depends on the state response, so having a one size fits all stimulus response doesn't make sense either. We have already provided enough incentiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.