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Welcome to /townhall/! This is an anonymous-only board for debates, dialectics, and discussions of a serious nature.

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 No.15057[Reply]

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Taiwan President Lai Ching-te is working with U.S. House Speaker Mike Johnson and other U.S. leaders right now in order to create personal ties outside of the spotlight when it comes to the Pacific and its diplomacy. Mainland China has called the Taiwan issue a "red line" not to be crossed in Sino-U.S. relations. Belligerence to the Taiwanese keeps getting worse and worse.

There's more at: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/taiwan-president-spoke-with-us-house-speaker-johnson-sources-say-2024-12-05/

Since a lot of Trump voters are here on /townhall/ who think that dictatorships across the world should destroy their nearby democracies because feminism, homosexuality, socialism, and the like have made democracy as a concept too decadent... and those voters otherwise have an attitude about foreign policy that supports strongmen... I'm wondering what's the "red pill take on Taiwan"?

Like what about Taiwan having too many sympathies for Jews, too many sympathies for gay people, too many sympathies for poor people, et cetera or otherwise being too left-wing and emotionally soft in a "sissy" way... or like what other issues with Taiwan make it a positive thing for mainland China to take it over and eliminate its democracy? Why should Americans like that idea? What's your argument? How does it work?

As the saying goes: "red pill me" on why the Taiwanese are bad people! Please help me understand what's now going to be U.S. policy in 2025 and onwards!
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 No.15073

>>15068
How should I know?
Despite your schizo characterization, I don't think Taiwan should be wiped out.

 No.15074

>>15072
>claim that nobody has any problem with Taiwan and nobody will ever, ever do anything against the Taiwanese people...
Nobody's said that. That's just another strawman of yours.
The point of contention was that you're claiming Trump supporters want Taiwan eliminated because "feminism, homosexuality, (and) socialism,".
Which, yeah, nobody actually thinks, because that's utterly insane.

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>>15064
>>15068
>>15072
The reason why people reacted badly is because you started the OP with broad generalizations and strawman arguments and it went downhill from there.
You've set the tone for the argument from the start and you don't sound like you're interested in sincere, good faith discussion.


 No.15050[Reply]

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There's a coup underway in South Korea you say?
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Consult the chart

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>>15050
>>15051
>>15058
What everyone else said.

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 No.15052[Reply]

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Russia wants to use ICBM's in the Ukraine. He is the only one that can stop them.
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>>15061
I'm fine with you engaging with the thread. That's perfectly accettable.
But strawmanning so fragrantly is actually against the rules here.
Albeit, not that the staff ever seems inclined to enforce...

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>>15056
There is much to blame, but yes, as chief in command that is the price to pay. You can't have your cake of blaming Trump for everything and not eating the Biden shit sandwich too.

>>15056
>only to then say that Putin should be allowed to buttfuck Ukraine and Europe anyway...
>>Let me get something straight: I don't think Russia should have invaded at all
Did you actually read my post?

A deal with the TALIBAN for peace isn't a bad thing, you fucking retard. What matters are the conditions. One we wouldn't have to make if not for other people outside of Trump.

 No.15065

>>15052
As somebody who was alive when George Bush Sr., Bill Clinton, and George Bush Jr. were all President during the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, and 2010s, I find it rather horrifying that some or most Americans are so incredibly Goddamn stupid that they think that U.S. foreign policy was a wonderful act of intelligence and ethical standards, with no flaws and no issues causing massive death as well as huge wastes of money, before the year of our Lord numbered 2016 rolled around.

And so literally everything absolutely is either all Biden's fault or all Trump's fault. People get really, seriously mad when you point out all of these facts from prior years. They act like they need to punch you in the face due to their ignorance.

Fuck.

Honestly, I wish I lot of the time I was just a complete dumbass who didn't understand how current foreign policy problems go back to decisions undertaken over ten years ago.

Not being an insane partisan idiot is a real curse. Fuck America. And Americans. For real. Only a tiny handful seem to have the basic intelligence enough to be worthy to vote.


 No.15033[Reply]

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What do you think about how Donald Trump and Republicans encourage incidences of crossdressing by straight, white, heterosexual males, as a direct result of the societal suppression of LGBTQ+ culture, resulting in psychological repression in the individual psyche (as it ceases to have any healthy outward form of expression), resulting in widespread crossdressing by straight, white, heterosexual males? Do you think the crossdressing of straight, white, heterosexual males would have been less under a Harris/Walz administration?

contributin'

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>>15033

op here. I guess I should change that from "inadvertently" to "advertently." Clearly, from this post by Vice President-elect JD Vance (posted for Thanksgiving a day after my post, it seems), it has been proven that the Trump/Vance administration does indeed support crossdressing by straight, white, heterosexual males. Case closed.

Crossdress all you want, men - just keep it to yourself (and perhaps your wife and/or waifu). Also, buy your own pantsu.


 No.15040[Reply]

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In America, it seems like both the left and the right have problems with pandering to their own extremists.  But it seems like the left has a bigger problem with this.  Does this match your experience?
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 No.15045

>>15044
I don't buy it. The Westboro Baptists're hated by pretty much everyone, being that they've gone out their way to make everyone do so. Frankly, they seem rather insincere in their actual beliefs, operating more as a way to drum up controversy and therefor money in inevitable litigation. But even if we discard that, they are not a significant group, being pretty much just one family anyway, and certainly not one liked by the right, considering their penchant for showing up at the funerals of soldiers.
These people have no authority, nor do they garner any 'defense' from a wider one.

Moreover, if we apply your rhetoric anyways, while they lack an 'institution', these types certainly benefit from the umbrella defense of "LGBT", a defense I might add that is significantly more sturdy than the porous defense of "christian".
You critique someone who is LGBT and you're a 'bigot'. You do so for a Christian, and not even Christians will bat an eye.
And I would further posit that at least in the American context, "Christian" has about as much "structure" as "LGBT" besides; American baptists do not follow a Pope, they do not derive authority from Rome, they do not default to the judgement of any council, they each follow their own dogma and practices in their own communities entirely separate from such things. They are no more unified than the 'LGBT community'.

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>>15040
Extremists advocating for an entire classification of people to be wiped off the face of the Earth or otherwise directly physically harmed is evil.

I primarily see this over the past several years being directed towards Jews, though this happens alongside some other groups facing physical attacks (like those who aren't themselves Jewish but are physically alongside Jews in public, for instance).

Unfortunately, this hatred comes from aggressors not easily put into the bullshit left-versus-center-versus-right political spectrum that's created by American brainrot. So, little effort is done such extremists in a way that's that effective in the long run. Which pisses me off a lot.

It would be nice if we could have a general moral standard in America of "If somebody roots for Palestinian Islamic Jihad among others to kill victims, this is horrible" without having to add "because PIJ is left-wing, and I'm right-wing" or "because PIJ is right-wing, and I'm left-wing". Evil things are evil. Understanding this fact is matter of not being an idiot, rather than rooting for a certain political party in the U.S.

Recommending: https://unwatch.org/unrwa-head-told-hamas-and-islamic-jihad-we-are-united-and-no-one-can-separate-us/

Of course, it would also be nice to have "neo-Nazis are terrible" and "Black militant revolutionary Marxists are terrible" be a part of this as well if we're talking other extremist loons who hate Jews as well as other innocents.

I can't put into words how badly I wish American Democrats and Republicans could stop being utter morons when it comes to insane hardliners who would happily kill off both of them by the tens of thousands if those insane hardliners could manage it. Trump voters literally worry more about drag queens then they do terrorists. Anti-Trump voters literally worry more about the technology of electric cars than they do terrorists. The fuck? God help us...

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>>15040
>>15047
tl ; dr stop listening to partisan political skibidi toilet brainrot and care about the real enemies of love/community/civilization/etc

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-terrorist-opens-fire-on-civilian-bus-in-west-bank-8-wounded-3-seriously/


 No.15046[Reply]

New/Newer cars suck. People should stop pretending that they don't. Because they really do.


 No.14809[Reply]

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If somebody kills a child molester, assuming that it's just some ordinary person living a regular life who did that out of rage for the action and nothing else, what should the proper punishment be for that murderer be, if anything?

A British TV movie that's in the franchise known as 'Unforgotten' touches upon this. The police officers catch the attacker but face a dilemma in which they can't agree among themselves if they want to even arrest the murderer since their motivations were so, so clear and seemingly relatable.

What would you do?
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>>15035
You'd actually let Kant's Axe Murderer murder.

 No.15038

>>15036
There is nothing wrong with defending yourself when all else is weighed out. It is wrong to kill a human being. This isn't a difficult concept.

 No.15039

>>15038
There's nothing wrong with killing a human to defend yourself.
There's no weight about it.
This isn't a difficult concept.


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 No.15024

>>15012
I wish I lived in a world in which a man giving children illegal drugs and then molesting them resulted in the person doing that going to jail... instead of them just getting mild criticism and having to turn down career opportunities.

I wish that so badly.

Even fucking Bill Cosby has managed to weasel out of prison and remains somehow both wealthy as well as famous these days... somehow.

 No.15028

>>15024

I don't know all the details, but it's very suspicious that he didn't even want his congress seat back and just said, “I think that eight years is probably enough time in the United States Congress..." (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj0jgle8qnyo). It's like a kid saying, "Oh, someone found out something bad about me? Eh, I didn't want that candybar, anyway, kek." But then again, we've always had children running the government (see "Dr. Strangelove").

 No.15029

>>15024
A 17-year-old is hardly a "child" in any real sense.  


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I've been hanging out in the ponychan/ponyville community for 12 years at this point and despite all my best efforts to share my experiences with being transgender the entire time I've been here, it really frustrates me how people here (mainly in /townhall/) will still regurgitate bullshit about transgender people like myself despite everything I have ever shared about my experiences.

I mean, from my perspective the situation is an absurdity worthy of Camus, what I experience is a part of my private subjective experience of being myself and by the nature of entirely subjective experiences, it produces no physical evidence I can share with anyone. It's a feeling of dissonance and incongruity between what seems intuitive in my mind and what I recognize and experience 24/7 with the body I have. I'm not delusional, I don't believe I was literally born female nor do I believe I have a female soul or anything like that. I know I was born male and that I have a male body complete with a deep voice, facial hair, thick body hair and male genitals ... all of which has always been unnerving to me for reasons that I have no explanation for and it makes as little sense to me as it would to you. And yet, those here who would oppose my right to the pursuit of happiness and would demand I produce the empirical evidence to justify what I am doing to mitigate the pain of that dissonance, seemingly unaware or unconcerned that such a standard is literally impossible and instead continue to repeat the most bad faith strawman narratives about me and others like us here that get passed around in all sorts of transphobic echo chambers all over the internet.

I'm not going through transition for ideological, philosophical, or religious reasons. I've been on hormones for nearly 2 years now and the benefits have been much more than 'merely cosmetic', before I went through any visible changes, I went through very welcome psychological changes, it's literally for the sake of my mental health and I don't care if that creeps you out or disgust you cause it doesn't make sense to you.

You aren't omniscient, and maybe people outthere experience things you do not or cannot experience, just because it doesn't make sense to you doesn't give weight to your paranoid solipsistic narratives about it, and your paranoid narratives about it don't justify your support for any politician or their policies to rob us of the right to become comfortable in our own skin for thePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>14993

You know what I've never experienced?  A manic episode, cause I'm not bipolar. If someone told me they were on the verge of a manic episode, I'm not going to be so arrogant to assert it doesn't happen just because I've never experienced it.

You people are fucking cowards and I am going to make /townhall/ worse for all of you daily

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What the hell did I do?

 No.15023

>>14999
They think you are me, and I am you, it would seem.


 No.15020[Reply]

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Hot takes:

I find it more tragic for a 20 year old person to die (assuming they were a good person) rather than say a 5 year old child. People talk about potential and yada yada, but at the end of the day the 20 year old had 20 years of connections and bonding with the people around them and survived the hardships of childhood.

 No.15021

Assuming that they did, of course. There are plenty of 5 year olds who have more friends and connections than some 20 year olds.


 No.15010[Reply]

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Great now I have to go from tapping the "nothing ever happens" sign to saying that ok maybe sometimes things happen

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 No.15019

It's not even an ICBM anyways. It's a truck-hauled missile, as I understand it. I forget the proper term, but basically, this is a 'medium range' type missile. Comparable to a cruise missile on a ship, perhaps.
They're technically nuclear-capable, but of course this is obviously not.

Either way, it came in response because of course it did. Russia is saying "Hey, we have these missile capabilities too. You can't just use American-made ones with impunity."


 No.14995[Reply]

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Are you for team anal, or do you stand by Truth and Justice?

 No.15000

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ANAL? Love it!

Blowing things up is fun!

 No.15003

>>15000
>Blowing things up is fun!

Ah, you blew my back out with that one

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 No.14873[Reply]

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Capybaras and other animals closely associated with South America alone (and like nowhere else) should be fully domesticated and then brought to other continents. I think. At least, well, I'd love for that to happen.

Does anybody else agree?
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>>14892
>>14874
No need to be an asshole to them

 No.15004

>>15002
Fuck you too

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>>15004
Only if you ask me nicely.


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