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 No.8755[Reply]

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This site is slow and sometimes I want to make a thread, but it's hard to know what people want to talk about.  Personally I'm mostly concerned with things related to science and software engineering (but most people don't really care about that).  So, maybe I'll let people pick from some ideas based on me watching Facebook.

1) Should the past acceptance of something guarantee future acceptance?  For example, is it inappropriate to cancel or revisit publications?  If not, how will such impulses be resisted?

2) America has had an odd quiet during the COVID-19 pandemic, but now we can ask again: are weekly mass shootings just the cost of living in a free republic?

3) Something about immigration.  Too many angles in this one, maybe you can help narrow it down.

I don't know.  I got a new lens (which is almost the same as my old one) and protective camera cases.  I'll be working a lot.  I don't have a clear idea how to estimate a point spread function but will generally work on it.  My scientific society is moving along.

Well, hope you all have a nice day.
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 No.8779

>>8769
I'm meaning in recent eras.
But, yes, ultimately I think if the argument is moral responsibility to foreign citizens, then the greater moral improvement would come from taking over those places and incorporating them fully as part of the United States.

I think this would hurt Americans, in all likelihood, but a 'greater good' would be served.
I, personally, do not really like 'greater good' systems as a whole, however.

 No.8780

>>8779
>greater good
Yes, the main flaw is people don't much agree on what's good.  Suppose your argument would be something like: republican government is good in the long run, America is the most experienced extant Republic, forcing others to conform to the American standard might be rough in the short term, but will be best for everyone in the end.

 No.8810

>>8757
>Automation is big issue here. Lots of workers are going to be automated out of jobs in the near future. This can be a huge disaster. I have a belief (epistemic status: quite uncertain) that humans have a psychological need to engage in productive work for their tribe/society. Going the "bread and circuses" route (i.e., a large percentage of the population on welfare) might cause the downfall of society.

I believe that this is absolutely factually correct. However, with 100% certainty we can predict that it won't happen like that. Most Americans currently refuse to even allow disadvantaged workers engaged in the labor force full time to experience the standard human rights guaranteed in other Western nations, such as the right to not be discriminated against due to identity status and the right to access to reliable health care. There will never, ever be a situation in the U.S. in which the state as well as the people agree to allow the downtrodden who might potentially survive if given enough support to get that support.

>And of course having millions of people starve to death due to being economically obsolete is also highly undesirable and would likely precipitate violent revolution.

This is half likely what will happen. America is a capitalist nation. America is a consumerist nation. America is a materialist nation. As trends continue, mass suffering is inevtiable. The advantaged will not share the benefits of progress with the general bottom half (or third or whatever) of society. That's just how it is.

I doubt that violent revolution would change a thing. Those in power would just slaughter the disadvantaged. It would be like gnats making war against semi trucks.

There's also a half likely chance that America stops being America. That some radical social advancement takes place that raises the ethical level of the general populace as well as the morals of the powerful. Moral awakenings are a thing. They have occurred. Because I want to be an idealist, I will hope for this.

 No.8703[Reply]

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We might imagine three communities:

1. Thomasites:

A religious organization with Scripture saying, "Those named Thomas are evil and need punishments, says the Lord.  Let you not suffer a Thomas to live."

2. Anti-Thomas Political Party

It's about time people named Thomas are moved to the lowest positions in society, if they even deserve to exist.

3. Nation of No-Thomas

It's a crime to have the name Thomas.  Even people named Tony or Tim may get roughed up by cops in this nation.  Nation of No-Thomas prides itself on being tough on crime.

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 No.8753

Thomas needs some damn self-respect. In every instance, he puts his own personal worth behind everything else. In trying to be respectful, he doesn't even aim for fairness, instead just giving himself the short end of the stick by default. Ideas like "Countering a political party will be seen as against free speech" make it clear he doesn't value himself as much as others' opinions. Respect, kindness, and love mean little without self-respect.

 No.8754

>>8753
Thomas could create his own political party.  But to engage another party without sharing their goals will be unwelcome.

 No.8764

>>8703
Thomas' parents are dicks. They should have named him something that wouldn't screw him over, and he should just change his name. That's what i would do. Any parent that names their kid Thomas in this scenario is a dick who is unfit to be a parent.

 No.8744[Reply]

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How plausable do you think this is?

https://news.bitcoin.com/online-sleuths-believe-satoshi-nakamotos-bitcoin-stash-is-a-blockchain-treasure-hunt-meant-to-be-found/

Also, general Bitcoin/Altcoin Discussion is OK.
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 No.8747

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>>8746
>Who would you want to find it?
Whoever can solve the riddle first. If I'd set it up I'd hope someone would solve it and I'd want to see it being solved and enjoy the thrill.

 No.8748

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It's always interesting reading the original sources to see what was omitted.

https://bitslog.com/2013/09/03/new-mystery-about-satoshi/
Best regards, Sergio.

EDIT: It looks that Eyal0 got it right. His explanation of the probability distribution is the most convincing: it’s not a probability distribution at all! He suggested that Satoshi had access to 58 machines for mining, so to avoid checking the same nonce twice he gave each machine a different id, which was stamped in the LSB of the nonce. I think the reason the machines 10-18 are missing is because they belonged to the next Computer Lab in Satoshi’s faculty, but at the last time he was forgiven access to that Lab.

This explanation could be proved/disproved by checking the frequency of ExtraNonces going back in time. If too many computers are mining together (started at the same time) then one would expect one to be slightly faster than the other, so ExtraNonces are not synchronized. Then a machine with a lower ExtraNonce can solve a block just after a machine with a higher ExtraNonce, and time seams to go back.

EDIT2: Still another theory is that there were only 6 computers, each running a limited range of 10 LSB nonces. One of them broke, and was not used at the last moment. But I don’t buy it, since 58 is not divisible by 6.

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>>8748
Sadly that makes some sense.  58 PC's...hmm...hope Nakamoto was not mining Bitcoin at work, that would be naughty.

>what was omitted
Thanks for checking, yes.

 No.8465[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

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This will be the thread for any discussions concerning today's events at the capitol.

Please keep it civil.
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 No.8656

>>8652
>The justification for shooting her was that she was illegally breaking-and-entering into a restricted government area
I do not think this should be all that is required.
It should never be acceptable to gun down unarmed civilians, just because the area that they are in is "restricted".

> If the government is the one breaking into your home, then there is no similar justification for the government shooting you.
Why?
What is the moral difference between a government killing you because it declared the area you are in as "restricted", and the government just killing you?
What constitutes the use of lethal force to murder an unarmed woman whom objectively, as a simple matter of fact, does not pose an immediate threat, just because of where they are?
Why is it acceptable to murder an unarmed civilian in a restricted area, but not in a non-restricted area?

>And, e.g., a rioter who is trying to hit a retreating 17-year-old over the head with a skateboard also may be shot in self-defense.
The difference is, unlike this thug, Kyle Rittenhouse waited until they were an IMMEDIATE threat, as is required to constitute self defense.

He did not just start opening up into the BLM crowd, because they could be a threat.
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 No.8658

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>>8656
>What is the moral difference between a government killing you because it declared the area you are in as "restricted", and the government just killing you?
In the first case, you have clear notice that what you're doing is liable to get you killed, yet you deliberately disobeyed the law anyway.  In the second case, you have no notice and haven't deliberately disobeyed the law.

At common law, the rule was that deadly force was lawful to stop any fleeing felon.  (I recognize that Ashli wasn't exactly a fleeing felon, but I'm just pointing out 'immediate danger' traditionally hasn't been considered necessary for the use of deadly force.)  The Supreme Court modified the 'fleeing felon' rule in Tennessee v. Garner (1985) to restrict the circumstances in which the government may use deadly force.  I take it that you would restrict it even further.

>>8656
>We had an investigation.
>
>We have not had an investigation in this case.
Do you have a source for that?  My understanding is that the 2016 investigations were not timed or intended for being able to alter the outcome of the election.

>>8656
>They tried. They held an investigation. That investigation came up with nothing.
This year they don't have any evidence of massive fraud either.  So what would be your thoughts if Obama had done what Trump did, alleging without proof that Hillary was the true winner?
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>>8658
>In the first case, you have clear notice that what you're doing is liable to get you killed, yet you deliberately disobeyed the law anyway.  In the second case, you have no notice and haven't deliberately disobeyed the law.
Law is not inherently just.  Whether or not someone breaks the law ought have no basis when it comes to whether they ought live or die.  Legality has no moral basis in and of itself.

>At common law, the rule was that deadly force was lawful to stop any fleeing felon.  (I recognize that Ashli wasn't exactly a fleeing felon, but I'm just pointing out 'immediate danger' traditionally hasn't been considered necessary for the use of deadly force.
If that is the case, I would say common law in that regard is immoral.
A felon does not necessitate someone is violent, let alone an immediate threat.

>My understanding is that the 2016 investigations were not timed or intended for being able to alter the outcome of the election.
They literally tried to impeach him because of this nonsense conspiracy theory.

This said, wouldn't that be reasonable, if we were to presume that Trump won through cheating with the Russians, we ought reverse that illegitimate process, or at least redo the vote?
As far as I understand, we do the same for athletic competition, so why not for things like this?
Again, what's the moral reasoning at play here?

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 No.8674[Reply]

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What?

 No.8675

>>8674
You didn't include a link, but I did a Google search and found it here: https://rockymountainoyster.com/google-maps-update-introduces-new-show-republicans-feature-to-protect-users-feelings/

Rocky Mountain Oyster is a satire site, like The Onion.

 No.8682

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>>8674
...back in my day...

 No.8680[Reply]

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-entire-legal-team-quits-week-impeachment/story?id=75591684

 No.8234[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

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Saw this picture on social media today with a shit-ton of likes and I'm pretty down with memes and all.

But is this supposed to be humorous?
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 No.8568

Comet?

 No.8578

>>8551
As opposed to people like Strong Hippogriff, who want people to be locked away unable to provide the necessities they need to survive, in order to gain some ten years at best to people who didn't even ask you to.

 No.8660

Currently in the Netherlands groups of people are flocking in the street and they're targeting hospitals and Covid test/treatment posts.

Reactions on social media are still laughing about how this virus is a hoax to keep the people down and we need to rise up and take back our society.
While hospitals are taking yet another flood of patients.

I am deeply ashamed of how things are happening in our "civilised" Western part of the world.

 No.7348[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

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Will the Hunter Biden laptop leak have much influence on the election?
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 No.8579

>>8555
>But, uh. The court doesn't do investigations. You're supposed to be done with that by the time you press charges, especially in a civil trial.
I would suggest this is the big problem.
The state does not investigate itself. Not for things that matter. Everyone's forced to dedicate their own personal resources, while still lacking the abilities law enforcement can bring forth in their investigations.

It's almost like the entire system is built to ensure corruption is near impossible to uproot and show light on.

 No.8655

>>8579
There are actually multiple independent oversight agencies as well as mechanisms for people who thought there was fraud to trigger an investigation which has to go through certain mandatory steps and then publish their findings. All that happened. Multiple times. Even a recount. Even multiple recounts. I don't know what more investigation was wanted.

I'm just saying that if you wanted the court to investigate it more, courts don't do that.

 No.8657

>>8655
I want the federal government to investigate it, as was done in 2016 over a conspiracy theory quite literally created off of partisan interest funding a dossier which had no evidence behind it.

We've had hundreds of sworn statements at this point. It seems to be an objective fact as far as I've seen that ballot watchers were prevented from doing their job. Likewise, states ignored their constitutional requirements, and changed restrictions on voting without going through the required channels, without consequence.

I will not be happy until the individuals responsible for the objective mistakes that have occurred, that we know for a fact have occurred, are at the very least removed from their position and barred from ever doing that again,.
I do not care if they try to hide behind 'glitches' or 'mistakes' or orders from someone else, they should not be granted the trust to fail like that again, and throw our entire democracy at risk because of their actions.

Yet, nothing like that, at all, seems to have occurred. All that we get is time and time again they say "Well, it's not enough evidence of fraud", or worse "You just don't have standing to complain about this".

What is the point of law enforcement if they do nothing about matters of the sanctity and trustworthiness of the nation?
If we do not have a system that ensures it is just and fair, what's the moral justification for the system at all?
Why not secede from what appears to many a blatantly unjust, untrustworthy, and corrupt state?
Why listen to the demands of what appears, to many, an illegitimate president?

 No.8558[Reply]

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https://www.npr.org/2021/01/13/956506229/trump-becomes-1st-u-s-president-to-be-impeached-twice
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 No.8640

>>8639
>Yes, but that is a generalized injury, not a particularized injury.
It's a state. Any injury is going to be generalized. It is not an individual, it is effectively a member nation.

>Even Trump's own Supreme Court appointees agreed!
As I recall, there was an opinion writ from at least one of them saying that the Supreme Court didn't have the authority to refuse a case from the states, regardless of if they have standing or not.
They had not participated in the vote due to the conflict of interest, however.

>I strongly disagree.  I'm not a lawyer, but I know something about standing.
Okay. I strongly disagree with your disagreement, as per what I have seen and heard in regards to the argument.
They could've refused Texas after hearing their case, but instead they refused to even allow Texas to get to that point.

>Query: If Trump knowingly told falsehoods about election fraud to solicit donations, is he criminally liable?
The presumed falsehoods were post election, so that quite clearly wouldn't be the case.

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 No.8642

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>>8640
>As I recall, there was an opinion writ from at least one of them saying that the Supreme Court didn't have the authority to refuse a case from the states, regardless of if they have standing or not.
Yes, Justice Thomas and Justice Alito believe that Supreme Court must grant leave for states to file a Bill of Complaint invoking the Court's original jurisdiction, even if the Supreme Court will inevitably rule against the state on grounds of standing.  I don't have an informed opinion on whether original jurisdiction is mandatory (as Thomas and Alito believe) or not (as the rest of the Supreme Court justices believe).

>The presumed falsehoods were post election, so that quite clearly wouldn't be the case.
Trump raised over $200 million after the election by soliciting donations to fight the alleged fraud.

 No.8643

>>8642
>Trump raised over $200 million after the election by soliciting donations to fight the alleged fraud.
Fair enough. However that still leaves both my other points;

>>8640
>"However, besides that, no, I would say, that wouldn't be. Because quite literally every single politician lies on the campaign trail."
>"I would say that you would have to prove he lied, knowingly. Failing to do that would result in an unjust outcome."

 No.8590[Reply]

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So I got lost once more in the whole list of videogames and violence memes. And I think it's clear that it's wrong to state videogames are responsible for the stuff media would claim they are.

Personally, I know the pull of videogames and some other media, both growing up and now. And it takes some discipline to set yourself at work on something without getting distracted.
So I do feel like there is some responsibility on the parent's part to limit the time their kids spend on TV and video games.

When it comes to sex and violence, there is still a societal pressure that enforces that viewer rating code. And people who let their kids watch, say, porno will definitely be questioned.
To a lesser extend, there might be questions asked when a 7 year old kid discusses beating hookers to death in the latest GTA game.

So what do you think?
Is there a responsibility for parents to put some restrictions on the time kids spend on video games?
And is there a responsibility for parents to put restrictions on the content of the video games played by their kids?

By extension, these questions can also cover other media of course.

 No.8606

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Yeah, i do believe reasonable restrictions are important. But only in the sense that too much of anything is a bad thing. If a child did nothing but read books, i'd have the same thought. Books are great, but maybe you can play a video game together, go for a hike, or cook a meal together. You might need to hunt for things they enjoy, but i think it's important to making a well rounded person.

In terms of content, kids can handle more than we give them credit for. But it's still a good idea to be mindful of their maturity level when introducing to them violent or sexual content. There's no one size fits all age, it takes actually knowing your kid and assessing this in them.

 No.8611

>Is there a responsibility for parents to put some restrictions on the time kids spend on video games?
>And is there a responsibility for parents to put restrictions on the content of the video games played by their kids?

In either case, I see no reason to bother.  There's probably some extreme cases that might warrant intervention, but those are gonna be rare.

 No.8532[Reply]

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Whenever I talk about states, I seem at odds with the more common Lockean view of states as tools for individuals to secure freedom.

My sense of Locke is -- "sounds nice; not how things work."  I try to hold the premise that human society is mostly good (and has been through history) -- I try not to become a cynic.  And I find myself more on the side of Hobbes, who sees more respect owed authorities if there must be state power.

I don't have a clear goal of what to accomplish with this thread, except not discussing the topic too much on other threads.

Question for discussion, if you like: "If people have the right to rebel when they feel their rights are violated (but the state disagrees, obviously), why do states also have the right to use violence to subdue the rebellion?  And if you question a state's right to use violence to subdue someone who feels they ought have more freedom (basically what state violence is for, right?), how do you value states at all?"
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 No.8576

>>8532
Hobbe's is the definition that is used in practice, whereas Locke's definition is the one we can use as it pertains to morality.

Hobbes defines what a state does regardless of its morality or legitimacy, whereas what Locke is essentially describing is the moral reasoning for government to exist, and consequently, when rebellion is acceptable.

"No taxation without representation" was the initial call for rebellion in the colonies. Those without a say as it pertains to their right will inevitably rise up against the state. What Locke is pointing to, in essence, is the reason for it.

>If people have the right to rebel when they feel their rights are violated (but the state disagrees, obviously), why do states also have the right to use violence to subdue the rebellion?
Depends on the context. But, overall, presuming the reasons for rebellion are justified, I would say that they don't.
At least, in the sense of a moral right.
You might say the rebel has a moral obligation to pursue all peaceful means of retaining their rights, but even there, personally, I'd just consider that a nicety.

>If you question a state's right to use violence to subdue someone who feels they ought have more freedom (basically what state violence is for, right?), how do you value states at all?
States as I believe Locke sees it exist to protect your rights, whether that be from a foreign power, or an individual.
Someone who steals from you is violating your rights.
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 No.8577

>>8547
This is why I personally am more absolute about it.
The 'greater good' is irrelevant, by my reckoning.
Otherwise, you get this contradiction you note.

Rather, the question simply needs be "are rights being violated".
Of course, my standard also means you have justification for rebellion over a traffic ticket. But, on the same token, I'm not overly hurt by that possibility.
That might be my inclination more towards martyrism, though. Still, I doubt there'd be as much corruption in the police departments if getting shot was a regular consequence for a betrayal of one's oaths.

 No.8589

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>>8532
>Hobbes defines what a state does regardless of its morality or legitimacy
I think that might be more correct for Machiavelli.

>Those without a say as it pertains to their right will inevitably rise up against the state.

Perhaps.  Following America, rebellion against monarchy spread to Europe.  Constrained to look at that period, you would say autocracy is unstable.  Simply having the most people, perhaps the modern period is the best to look at for understanding states, so yes.

>But, overall, presuming the reasons for rebellion are justified, I would say [the state has no right to put it down].

OK.  That's the typical view, yes.  I don't know.  Just seems to place states in a problematic light, especially if they are granted the power to subdue, but may not have the moral right.  You could say between anarchy and state power, states are the lesser evil.  But I won't advocate granting evil authority, so that won't do.

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Maybe I'm coming to a reckoning.  If I were observing a study group of alligators, I would think of what they did and the causes.  There wouldn't need to be good and bad alligators.
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I am quite eager to see Biden policies on my meme country.

Does he like coups or is rather a calm guy?
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 No.8545

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>>8539
>>8543
Hmm, maybe it would be for the best if Biden avoids public appearances for a few months.  I've heard that his inauguration might be mostly virtual because of COVID-19 anyhow.

 No.8549

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So, he peaceful guy?

 No.8564

>>8543
That people needed death and insurrection to see Trumpies as 30's-esque early Reiche just proves ive been right about education and complacency for 50 years.

Itll be fun to see if we're past the tipping point.  197 House Republicans today still voted Fourth Reiche.

 No.8461[Reply]

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Or probably more accurately additional steps required to run Flash content (or what was once Flash content) following major browsers pulling support.

While I see the issue appearing in news articles, the technical side isn't really news.  The stories are probably more capturing reminiscence, or a feeling that something is being lost: "To me, [Flash] aesthetics mark a time when the internet felt fresh and subversive." - LA Times.

My question is: in the past 20-25 years, how has the internet changed?  Of course, we are all aware of technical changes, but has the culture changed as well?

Also: Happy New Year!!!

 No.8462

>>8461
See also: https://ponyville.us/pony/res/1069724.html

>has the culture changed as well?
Yes.  A lot more stupid people.  Back in the day, most Internet users were above average in intelligence and tech-savviness.  They also tended to lean noticeably more libertarian than the general population.  Nowadays, almost everyone is online.  

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>>8462
When I think of early works of flash...intelligence does not seem their feature.  But dealing with new technology and the bugs requires tech skills or at least persistence.

The relationship between average intelligence of members and -- goodness I guess -- of a society is probably positive, but maybe complicated.  I agree with the libertarian leaning -- part of the permissive (and subversive) nature of the early internet.

 No.8430[Reply]

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It seems as if there is a lot of push for Black Friday to be an official holiday, or at least, it looks as if it is heading that way.

With that in mind, I can't help but wonder, should it be boycotted? I can see some dangers with setting a 'sales day' as a precedent for an official holiday. It feels greedy, and an unhealthy version of capitalism.

But what are your thoughts on it?
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I think capitalism is what pushes Christmas shit to be sold in October.

I think Black Friday is more likely to be made a holiday before voting day will be.

 No.8439

>>8430
I don't see the issue.
It's simply a day wherein one who has something they would normally not be willing to sell for less does so with someone who wants something they would not be willing to buy for more.

I find it an overall win for the consumer. Same as steam sales, or happy hours.
The increase of volume of sales is what makes it possible, and for that, having a set day is ideal.

Don't think it ought to be a holiday though. That's dumb. Just not immoral.

 No.8455

>>8430
>for Black Friday to be an official holiday
So most everywhere can be closed, and people get a 4-day weekend.  I'm OK with that.

If you mean a selective holiday -- time off for some groups of workers to create a time of extra labor for the rest, I'm not so OK with that.

 No.8414[Reply]

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1) Why does the death rate (first chart) vary significantly by day (color coding)?

2) While I understand viral exponential growth, is it behavior changes or something else that switches the growth to decay?  (It seems the third hump is going to begin decline soon.)
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 No.8417

>>8415
2. It might be a mix of "immunity" and ways in which measures to prevent the spread take effect.

 No.8418

Lots of speculation. Not much evidence. Poorly understood for most diseases. The bulk of explanation given for why the seasonal flu is seasonal don't stand up to scrutiny. If you can answer it you'd probably get a Nobel Prize or some crap.

 No.8454

>>8415
>don't even manage to clear their backlog on Monday, spilling over to Tuesday
That was my first guess, giving it might take some time to decide a death should be attributed to COVID and counted.  An article I found seemed to point more to some unknown difference in behavior on different days of the week, so I wasn't sure what was more likely.

>percentage of local infectable people decreases, thereby
>>8417
decreasing the spread
Right, herd immunity.  In the early stages you might have considered the effect negligible, but now it is gaining ground, perhaps.

>>8418
>the seasonal flu is seasonal
I was under the impression it was the mutations of the flu that kept it from being extinguished through herd immunity, but also kept it mild, as most everyone is immune to something similar.  I don't know if that's right, though, and it is not a theory with much precision, if that's what you mean.

It also opens the possibility with Coronavirus, that it will become endemic through mutation.  If I understand, the high rate of spread means it is otherwise doomed to die out or retreat to a non-human resivore.

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