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 No.15704

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 No.15706

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>>15704

/thread

 No.15726

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Men are going their own way

 No.15727

The best grift in history has always been:
1. Convince the mark that they're in trouble and about to get wasted.
2. Sell the mark your "solution".
3. Either bask in the glory of them praising you or then take the opportunity to sell them another "solution".

So, for men in America in the 2020s, you:
1. Convince them that some "X" factor is trying to kill them (such as excessive bodily salts, or gay couples getting married, or loud noises from animal barks, or whatever).
2. Sell them your "wonder drug" or whatever it is (by draining men's supposedly evil bodily salts like they're about to have a neutron bomb go off in their butts, or by getting them involved in your homophobic political cause so that they feel comforted socially, or by putting special earmuffs on them to protect against scary animal noises, or whatever).
3. Bask in mens' love and support, with them making you rich and famous while you sell them more stupid crap.

This isn't because men are stupid, since it's because modern corporate marketing is a unstoppable force of Satanic evil. Being basically as powerful and as cruel as nuclear weapons while being just as great at hurting innocent victims as those nukes.

 No.15731

>>15706
well, since the thread is continuing anyway, i suppose i can say a bit more.

very succinct view of the situation -- covers pretty much everything in concise fashion, i think. i liked his subtle distinction between men who are struggling but self-aware and men who are struggling but have also bought the marketing bs (manchildren). mlp:fim and eurobeatbrony (actually t. stebbins) may have been prophetic.

>>15726
interesting...

>>15727
...like flim and flam

 No.15732

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>>15727
>>15731
Yes. Exactly.

 No.15747

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>>15727
>dog barks

I personally think we should campaign against dog barks. I can't stand loud dogs.

 No.15749

>>15747
There probably should be a good way to deal with excessive noises from dogs.

I've yet to come across it.

Not being sarcastic. If I knew the answers, I'd tell you. If somebody else around me knew the answers, I'd ask them.

 No.15754

>>15749
>>15747
Personally I think the random mauling of humans minding their own business by dogs is a more pressing issue.

 No.15757

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>>15754
Kill every dog in America

 No.15760

>>15754
>>15757
It's pretty bad.

 No.15797

>>15760
I realize that this sounds like just dismissive sarcasm, but it's actually, really... pretty bad. Agreed. We all agree.

 No.15819

>>15704
>blah blah blah blah capitalism blah blah blah capitalism blah blah capitalism blah blah capitalism blah blah muh gays, trans, etc.
brilliant video

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 No.15836

>>15834
Gish Gallop: The Movie
Dr. Debunk coming through to debunk nothing. Just endless assertions with hot air backing them up.

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>>15757
Not that it's a debate or anything, but it's actually weird as fuck and interesting as fuck how the number of dogs as a raw total is exploding

Behold

(Graph)

If this keeps up, dogs will rule America, in a sense

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 No.16024

>>15836

I don't think you understand what a gish gallop is, that video is not a debate, it's a video essay

 No.16081

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bumping because this video should be a prerequisite to engaging in discussion on /townhall/

 No.16082

>>16024
It's a rapid-fire presentation of alleged comedy-as-fact in the style of John Oliver that doesn't actually demonstrate or prove anything but sounds authoritative to people that are too stupid to consider the individual points presented. It's no wonder people here like and promote this particular YouTube channel so much.

 No.16108

Also going to say that I think a gigantic thing is that younger men don't actually understand how grossly uncomfortable certain behaviors are as well as certain viewpoints.

Three things that come immediately to mind are:
1. Very rarely showering or taking baths.
2. Very rarely brushing ones teeth.
3. Very rarely doing anything to trim one's fingernails and toenails.

Younger men seem to broadly have this pathological inability to understand why older men, all women regardless of age, and all nonbinary people regardless of age would object.

There's not really that much of a difference between those three things, and like, say, these:
1. Hatred of gay people.
2. Hatred of people with college degrees.
3. Hatred of Jews.

They're just sort of gross in a sad way that more or less has this stink. Even though, thank God, those three issues seem to be less of a problem than how younger men in American don't take showers and so on.

 No.16110

>>16108
There's a lot of very weird assumptions in this post. God help us if this isn't a troll post.

 No.16111

>>16110
??????

It's not...

 No.16112

>>16111
If you even think most younger men aren't even clipping their nails or that's much of a particular problem with it with "all" of the people you mentioned I don't know what to tell you.

 No.16113

>>16112
I'm talking about in America. I suppose in more intelligent and generally more advanced nations it's likely different.

 No.16114

>>16113
It being america doesn't change anything... the vast majority of younger men in america still clip their nails and probably are more inclined to make fun of any males who don't if anything.

 No.16115

>>16114
I don't think that that's right. A huge number of younger men don't. The culture has clearly changed in the 2020s versus the 2010s and versus the 2000s.

 No.16116

>>16115
Do you have a source for this?

 No.16118

>>16116
In terms of showering, it's that 50% just about or so of Americans shower once a day, while something like 30% to 40% do so less often, with some of them doing so way less often. And about 10% or so do so more than daily, like in the morning plus evening or whatever.

This changes a bit based on identity related stuff like your personal income and your politics, but (I think) not by much. And, anyways, that's not what we're talking about, so whatever.

You can look at= https://today.yougov.com/topics/entertainment/survey-results/daily/2021/08/12/3d0b7/1

Like I said before, I think that this is a social problem that's a part of a general network of cultural issues having to do with younger individuals in America, especially younger men. It's not like they're all gross. Or even that we can pin down that 44.44% of them (or whatever the hell it is) are gross exactly. It's that being gross is more socially accepted in a way that I find horrifying.

 No.16119

>it's that 50% just about or so of Americans shower once a day, while something like 30% to 40% do so less often, with some of them doing so way less often.
How is this "very rarely"? Showering once a day or once 2 days has always been fairly normal. This also doesn't say anything about nails.

 No.16120

>>16119
Do you have problems reading English or something?

I don't know how I can change "50% just about or so of Americans shower once a day, while something like 30% to 40% do so less often, with some of them doing so way less often" to make it easier to understand.

Do my words have too many letters in them or otherwise seem like too intellectual or something?

 No.16121

>>16120
No it's what you said and linked. The first by far for men is 53% bathe or shower once a day. The 2nd once every two days. You said earlier that younger men very rarely shower or takes baths so how does this make any sense?

 No.16122

>>16121
You're not even beginning to make sense. I said that a significant amount of younger men in American do things such as rarely shower, and then I shared a link that both looks at all Americans and then shows the breakdowns for age and gender identity as well as other traits. And, as I've said, it's "50% just about or so of Americans shower once a day, while something like 30% to 40% do so less often, with some of them doing so way less often".

I'm not sure how to explain these things in a way that won't make you mad and call me "autistic" for using too many letters in the words that I type.

I don't know how to word "50% just about or so of Americans shower once a day, while something like 30% to 40% do so less often, with some of them doing so way less often" in a way that would be any different.

 No.16123

>>16122
When you look at the actual data of what you posted and factor in the 2nd for americans is 20% for once every two days that brings it up to like 70% that's still in relatively normal territory. Even without that by far most americans shower once a day so ???

 No.16124

>>16122
>>16123
Actually I'm even misreading the data in your favor. It's 11% too for more than once a day so like 81% of americans shower a relatively normal amount. Unless you're trying to point to a clear minority as if that matters. Everywhere has a clear minority who don't.

 No.16126

>>16118
If 50% shower everyday, 10% shower more than once a day, 30% shower every 2 days, are you saying that the remaining 10% are the gross individuals? I wonder how that percentage lines up with the percentage of far leftists in America who are oppressed by The Man and normal things like deodorant.

 No.16127

>>16126
I think that more often encompasses far-right chan dwellers who only have memes going for them in their life though to be fair. Many of the far-left are at least going out and organizing somewhere and probably showering and using deodorant.

 No.16130

>>16082

In the context of a debate. These videos aren't debates, they're video essays

 No.16138

>>16127
I got news for you. The leftist land whale that smells like tuna ain't showering daily. If you're saying she smells like roses because you really want to get into her diapers, that's a bold strategy.

 No.16139

>make a comment about showering

>there's a conversation

>nobody says that it's about politics

>nobody says that either political side won't shower anymore

>nobody violently hates anybody

>suddenly, it's all about how one partisan political side is evil because it doesn't shower.

What the fuck, guys?

{For what it's worth, I would literally bet money, and I mean a lot of it, that voters of President Trump absolutely shower just as much as some randos picked out of nowhere. Since that's how the statistics work. Jesus Christ.}

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>>16108
I think I see what you mean. Hatred in general is grossly uncomfortable, yet the younger generations seem to think it's OK in certain contexts.

>>16118
>>16119
For showering, just shower often enough so that your head doesn't itch and you don't smell if you're going to be around people.

As for the rest of the conversation, I can't even follow it, as it's so absurd.

 No.16141

>>16140
Yes. That's right.

 No.16157

>>16138
This hypothetical person is obviously such an extreme minority that they aren't worth talking about at all.

 No.16159

>>15704
>some cartoon cat guy making a bunch of declarations with little to actually back any of it up beyond emotive appeals
The infantilization of the left is truly remarkable.
You put things into this form and they just eat it up.

 No.16160

>>16139
I typically shower twice a week, more depending on work. When I'm out mowing in the heat with my brother for example, I'll jump in just after.
I don't get how people shower every day, or especially twice a day.
It's like they hate their skin or something. Would make me way too sensitive I'd struggle to wear clothes.
Then again, I do try to be thorough with cleaning. Maybe they do a light rinse instead.

 No.16161

>>16159
>denigrating a cartoon leopard about emotive appeals while posting on a pony site
There are multiple layers of irony here.

 No.16162

>>16161
The difference is I don't put forward ponies for serious political philosophy to follow.

 No.16163

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>>16162
Why not?

 No.16164

>>16163
Because I prefer actual reasoning to the preaching of children's cartoons.
Not to say they're bad for having moral lessons. But they've typically got no counter present, and aren't thought too deeply, and certainly are lackluster to field as arguments against others.
Fundamentally they only ever consider, let alone show, one side.  With MLP there's a fair range of issues with the supposed elements, for instance. Rainbow Dash not being particularly loyal, as a prime example.

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 No.16168

>>16159

This is the weakest criticism I've ever seen anywhere online. Utterly lacking in self awareness.

>>16162

>editorial content
>serious political philosophy
>pretending political cartoons aren't traditional

>>16164

>Fundamentally they only ever consider, let alone show, one side.

Editorial content has no obligation to be 'balanced'. It's literally a way of expressing an opinion, and if that's in reference to current events then of cpurse their going to reference the news their commenting on, of course their presenting their opinion alone. You consume other people's editorial content to get their opinions in response. Frankly this seems like a real stretch to try and play the victim over something that's been a well established practice in media for literally centuries. Editorial content is not reporting, is expressing opinions, thats what an editorial section of a newspaper fundamentally is, and the vast majority of content about politics posted on YouTube is editorial in nature, as well as the majority of content on cable news channels.

 No.16174

>>16168
Political cartoons are and have always been simple propaganda.
The default state for them is strawmanning the opposition.
You are right they have no obligation to be balanced; they are within their rights to be propaganda.
But acting as though it's consequently anything but propaganda is asinine at best.

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