No.16222
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Are we currently witnessing one of the biggest and most blatant and obvious government coverups of all time?
No.16224
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No.16226
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>>16224I haven't been keeping up with the news, but the last I heard months ago, their excuse was that they were just dragged along by the bad guys and didn't know what was going on until they got there -- or were just going there to observe and to try to stop the bad guys or something. In other words, being on the list would probably actually make them heroes for risking their reputations to save the children.
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From
> We got the list and we're gonna expose everyone on it!
To
> There is no list, what are you talking about?
To
> Epstein and the list are a leftist conspiracy made up by Obama and Clinton
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No.16259
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might accidentally give away Epstein's ties to Israel. can't have that.
Let's be honest, that's the ONLY reason anyone on the Left actually cares about this. No one on the Left said shit about Epstein when little-girl-sniffing Joe Biden was in office. The Left probably supports Epstein since he's just a poor misunderstood MAP or some shit.
not interested in the moral outrage of those whose morals depend entirely on who is subject to them.
>>16254>How the Left gaslights themselves regarding MAGA No.16262
>>16259There's such an easy, simple check here of who's lying and who's not lying.
MAGAs don't want child molestation investigated. They don't want files released. They don't want prosecutions.
Who wants those things? Literally everybody else. Everybody else. The moderates. The libertarians. The democratic socialists. The liberals. The communists. Those who just want to grill for God's sake.
There's literally only one singular political faction who screams "Don't investigate! Don't release any files! Don't keep talking about this! We demand silence!". And it's MAGA. Literally everybody else is on the other end of the scale here, pal.
No.16263
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>>16262>MAGAs don't want child molestation investigated. They don't want files released. They don't want prosecutions.That's not true at all. "MAGAs" and their equivalents are literally the only ones who care about the children being molested, since the Leftists brush it under the rug depending on who's doing the molesting. MAGAs were the ones screaming about Epstein from the rooftops literally for years, and many still do. MAGA isn't defined by Trump, and MAGA by and large still wants the names released and the people prosecuted, whether or not Trump agrees.
>Who wants those things? Literally everybody else. Everybody else. The moderates. The libertarians. The democratic socialists. The liberals. The communists. Those who just want to grill for God's sake.Wrong. The liberals, the communists, the democratic socialists, the "just want to grill" bros, and the moderates who cared more about maintaining the status quo than about anything resembling justice were the ones who, for example, brushed the English Grooming gangs under the rug, because of the inconvenient fact of who was doing the molesting. It's no different in this case. The people who have an actual moral compass want the perpetrators in the Epstein case to be charged and arrested. The
real politik machinations that exist above that have literally nothing to do with MAGA, even if you want to pin it on MAGA. It's just your wishful thinking.
>There's literally only one singular political faction who screams "Don't investigate! Don't release any files! Don't keep talking about this! We demand silence!". And it's MAGA. Literally everybody else is on the other end of the scale here, pal.Wrong. MAGA cares about justice, same as they always have. You and your bitch-about-it-when-they-do-it and turn-a-blind-eye-when-we-do-it morality and argumentation counts for jack shit.
No.16265
>>16259>>16263I have to wonder
what is your thought on the current handling of the Trump administration and republicans on the Epstein files?
Do you think they're making a big mess of things?
Do you think it's all a nothingburger and they are never opposed to following up with it?
Do you think they're practically honest in saying they don't have any client lists?
Do you go along with the narrative that Epstein and the files are all a big hoax created by the left to discredit trump and honest republicans?
I have to wonder if we ever get to the point where Epstein is seen as a innocent hard working American who became the victim of a big leftist feminist hoax in the wake of the corrupt #metoo movement. After all this time, would people be willing to accept that?
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>>16265It's pretty awful, but I understand why they might be doing it
because I can look at the situation from a standpoint above a 3rd grade level. Obviously there is a list and they have it. I don't agree with their likely reasoning for not releasing it, regardless of which reason it is. Nothing about it has anything to do with "MAGA."
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>>16270>has no argument>madcan't say I'm surprised.
No.16305
>>16301I'm surprised that individual lawmakers haven't legally nullified everything against both Epstein and Maxwell.
Granted: this is something that truly nobody, neither MAGA nor liberals nor moderates nor literally any mass movement anyplace, wants. It would be as unsupported as the government banning ice cream cones. Or intentionally blowing up Mount Rushmore. Still, could happen.
I rate the odds of Trump pardoning everybody and screaming that Epstein was framed alongside that Maxwell was framed at a 75% likelihood.
