No.1190966[Last 50 Posts]
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You know, when i made Ponyville, i dreamt that it would be a place of peace, and harmony... to correct the mistakes of Ponychan such that one day, all of the friends would come back.
Like in the Lorax!
But, instead, in my desire to create a tolerant and hands-off environment, we have created a place where kindness struggles to thrive, and bad faith behavior is everywhere. You know that story, about the nazis, and the nazi bar?
i hate to say it... but we've become a nazi bar, and it is my fault for not taking harsh action and trying to force all of you to love others into being, instead of giving you a safe space to thrive. for allowing weeds masquerading as plants into our garden, forcing so many of you out.
There are trolls constantly raiding that our tools cannot control, and who would love nothing more than to see the site shut down
And the good users, who try their best to tolerate it, just can't handle it anymore.
for those of you who are left... the very few of you who remain... i'd like to hold a referendum.
May i turn on accounts, that require passwords, and vetting?
It might be too little, too late, but better late, than never.
What would you like to see done?
No.1190968
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An alternative idea would be to select basically any dedicated poster left, and make them a janitor, giving them control over bans and deletes.
We would start with common thread OPs, and give them executive control over enforcement of rules in their thread.
what do we think of this idea?
No.1190969
>>1190966>May i turn on accounts, that require passwords, and vetting?As much as I dislike passwords and such, they may have become a necessity nowadays..., but what about....
*takes a look around*
Eh, sure. It probably wouldn't hurt to try it out and see how it goes for a little while, at least.
please no two-factor authentication, though! >.< No.1190993
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>>1190971>>1190972that is two pretty important votes already... i don't think it could hurt either.
more decentralization and more power for trusted users was always the intention too... so it could be good.
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>>1190993But who can be trusted in this day and age?!
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>>1190993>>1190996we pair the candidates off, and they fight to the death. whoever is left will have proven their loyalty!
>>1190993having a few more folk with the ability to deal with crap at any given time would be a good idea imo; also it may be good to have people that have traditionally staggered time zones be able to cover other peoples blind spots
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>>1190966>May i turn on accounts, that require passwords, and vetting?Seems reasonable. Right now, it is very easy to evade the ban system.
>>1190968>An alternative idea would be to select basically any dedicated poster left, and make them a janitor, giving them control over bans and deletes.That sounds dangerous, especially if deletes are hard deletes that don't allow auditing.
No.1191023
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Personally, I don't notice much overtly trolling on / pony/ as this site is mostly visited by a smaller group of dedicated posters anyway.
Wezll, there's probably 1 or 2 specific posters who swing from being mildly constructive to being extremely disruptive when they get bored, who either get the leniency from the mods or just evade every ban to come back as if nothing happened.
Unless we're talking /townhall/, but there I feel like mods are walking on eggshells to avoid being called out for being politically biased.
Anyways, not a big deal to me for having to make an account and logging in.
I do think it will probably be an exercise in what you want to do with people being disruptive. Like with a slow site and a reputation of being friendly to people, would you risk it by locking down?
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>>1190966Whatever you feel the need to do, I can run with. Passwords create a barrier to new users, but lol, like those exist. I haven’t noticed much problem on /pony/, but I don’t get out of my thread much. If passwords will make your life easier, go for it.
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I would still stop by.
No.1191036
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Don't let the last schizos from the Klan- Sorry, Ponychan get you down. They're just a bunch of silly tricksters who go too far and are just a tad too autistic. Like, they just can't control their power levels.
Unlike me. I'm just insane but aware of it. Seriously though, you own the site. Its your choice I feel
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I, too, had to make my website require vetting for new users. Granted it was because of too many spambots, but still. We also made it 16+. Dunno if that's necessary here. Anyways, point is, I'm alll for it. Just make it so we can change screen names at will for us RPers (if we ever get around to RPing again) and it'll all be gucci. No uprising.
>>1190968>inb4 they do this for freejokes aside, probably a good idea. but who to pick?
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At this point, after years of that crap, I'd be perfectly okay with an account system. I don't care if its a barrier to new people, we aren't going to attract new pony fans cause the glory days of pony fandom is long dead and for the most part this site still exist mostly for the sake of an obscure community of old friends originally from another obscure community making the identity and origin of the trolls obvious. So fuck it all, they've proven time and again how willing they are to abuse your good faith and it's been pretty fucking obvious since ponyville separated from them that they're motivated by really petty grievances and wounded egos. Just cut them off for good at this point if they're so god damn determined to chase us down and turn our community into the same nazi garden they turned ponychan into.
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>>1190966I don't have anything profound to say, really. It seems standard to require logins and certain rules regarding account status monitoring on many websites these days. So, it all appears reasonable.
No.1191221
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>>1190966>>1190968It isn't much of a solution, rather an observation.
I've seen the way people's behavior have changed throughout the years. From heels turned face and face turned heel.
One of the biggest issues on most of these ponyboards is ego; pride and a lack of empathy because that is the nature of text for most people. It's been shown that both the internet
can both bring out the worst in people, as well as twist your perception into thinking those around you have the most mqlicious intentions with their words. (Funnily enough Key and Peele did a skit on this concept with text messages.)
Grudges grow upon grudges with no burial of hatchets in sight. I've seen it with myself. Perfectly innocent posts removed. It's a vicious cycle. People will never live in true drum circling harmony, but a lot of it is avoidable.
It's also a delicate balance between a sense of free-speech, (sometimes mean spirited) comedy, and conflicting opinions that people are emotionally charged on. And you can never truly please everyone at every given moment.
The issues I've noticed are when people swing too far into extremes of insensitivity and extreme sensitivity.
My best advice would to be to think about your desires and compromise with being more realistic.
>i dreamt that it would be a place of peace, and harmony... to correct the mistakes of Ponychan such that one day, all of the friends would come back.Sometimes hashing things out is the best way for that to happen; to let people figure it out on their own. (Though sometimes a ref is needed.)
From what I've seen, the issue boils down to people and sometimes, people don't want peace; pettiness and vindictive behavior is more satisfying in the heat of the moment. I know that feeling well. Sometimes it is much more satisfying and easy to indulge rather than forgive, because forgiveness and healthy relationships require work, where as demonizing those you dislike (especially on the internet) is easy; where as friendship and forgiveness can be hard. But, the relationships and friend I've made have shown me that it is also worth the work.
Anyway, more janitors could be useful. Power to the ponies. If you need an extra pair of hands, I wouldn't mind helping out.
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>>1191221By the way if this post gets deleted, that wasn't me. I sent you a DM on discord.
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It´s been a long run. laughs, cries, bickering, arguing, problem solving. the world isn´t as it was10/15 years ago. We age, the world ages.
Difficult to say / write whom matures up first.
Moony, you Will always have my deepest respect,love, understanding.
this place kinda been a home until internet,bitterness,people and workaholism changed me.
unsure if vill visiting here anymore, but then again. ive not been the best friend lately and visiting at all in general.
Love ya moon, posters, thanks for the fish:
Toodles~
No.1191340
>>1191221>If you need an extra pair of hands, I wouldn't mind helping out.This is a bold suggestion despite previous offenses.
You're also in a position to enforce plausible deniability due to lack of authentication via tripcode. But no, some other anon is being salty and you have a near perfect record of good behavior. Yeah, surely that's the right line of thinking. Let's make you a janitor.
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of present concern in here, given the reports, is that there is a lot of ban evasion
but the problem is... our bans, not unlike bans on any imageboard, are basically useless
and banning only causes people to be upset, which causes them to troll
and we have seen, a relentless amount of trolling
the question is, what do we do? nobody wants accounts
i could make janitors, and i think i will
but if banning is sure to result in further trolling, which will hurt hte site further, is it in our best interest to ban? maybe i leave that to each individual thread, to decide?
giving other threads other chances to decide as they wish? What do we think?
also...i may ask that we adopt tripcodes while discussing, otherwise it is hard to figure out who is who
all of the troll posts under Nonny's name of late, for example, were all not actually him
No.1191348
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>>1191094hmmmm... :c
>>1191160we are closer to putting the barriers up for good.
i do think there may be a potential pony resurgence in the future... as it is extremely popular in China, which may prompt hasbro to revisit our generation
but whether that will come back to imageboards, i do not suspect so...
it is pointless to conjecture though. maybe you are right too, andrea
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>>1191340I am human like any other. I am capable of self destructive, offensive, and mean spirited behavior like anyone else is. I'm not going to sit here and pretend I've been the epitome of kindness, or haven't taken my own personal struggles out on strangers online. However I have noticed that people tend to blur the line between malicious behavior and differences in opinion, which can cause a cycle of mistreatment, or even abandonments of friendship. I've come to find that abandonment can be one of the worst things you can do to someone. To make them feel incapable of love or understanding. And worse when it is over things that can be worked out with words, time, and empathy, even if you don't agree.
I also have come to realize that letting those people who call me a monster lead me to believe that I am a monster isn't an excuse to be one as well. Believe it or not, as mean as I can be, I actually prefer it when people are friendly, respectful and kind to one another. (Outside of banter. I love banter.) And I'm beginning to accept that I can be extremely kind, forgiving, and understanding when I choose to. I want to choose to be the good guy for once.
It is merely an offer, and I don't expect it to be taken seriously, but if a pair of eyes, ears, and hands are needed, then I dont mind offering a bit of help if nobody else will.
>>1191348This is going to be a strange apology, but medicine (such as BLS) often goes from the least invasive methods to the most invasive methods when try to save someone's life. For example, opening and airway. (NPA, then OPA, then I-gel, or even a tracheostomy.)
If you'd like my suggestion, I would say pick a handful of additional janitors and place the site on a probational period. If the place improves and relations stay positive, then success. If the place turns into a dumpster fire... turn to something more invasive. (Passwords)
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No.1191390
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>>1191386I just hope this pipes guy learns to chill out.
No.1191399
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>>1191393>safer on 4chanYou mean the place where they have confirmed convinced people to mix chemicals into mustard gas? Lol. Lmao even. This place is like the safest place on the internet.
No.1191402
>>1191399Yeah but like, they have rules and moderation. And some parts are chill enough.
And you can easily filter content and avoid some of the worse off boards.
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>>1191402>actual accounts of death, severe maiming, doxing, raiding, and even child predators, ect>b-but filters! You're trolling right now.
>mods on 4chan doing their job>mods on 4chan not getting into huge legal trouble for breaking the lawLol. Lmao
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>>1190966Y'know .. urp.. good, good for you Moonty, fer , fer owning up to your urrrrrp mistakes. Thats a real, a real manly thing to , to urp do there li'l buddy.
But dont feel too bad, its just human nature. Original Ponychan back when Orange made it was all Rainbows and Burpter.. butterflies at the start but lets face it ol pal, sooner or later everyones facade tends to crack. No one is perfect, well except Pickle Rick, because he turned himself into a pickle.
Still lets face it, you had a good run. Place was active, kept some of the community alive, should be proud of that but pony is over my fren , maybe its time to let go, move on.
Concentrate on your own life instead of worrying about keeping this stressball rolling. Virtually every other pony based image board owner cracked on the end, its not worth it.
Well, Boat hasnt yet but we're working on it.
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You are struggling to keep alive something that should have stayed in the past long, long ago.
In my frank opinion this is more proof that it is time to move on and remove this place.
No.1191414
>>1190966Admittedly I am rarely here but i happen to be here right now. And I'm not rarely here specifically related to the reasons you mention, they're unrelated mostly. But if my take means anything:
If this has become something that is nothing but a chore to maintain for you then maybe it is time to hang it up or at least pass the torch to someone willing to maintain it and has less on their plate.
>There are trolls constantly raiding that our tools cannot control, and who would love nothing more than to see the site shut downThat would just be letting them win.
>i hate to say it... but we've become a nazi bar, and it is my fault for not taking harsh action and trying to force all of you to love others into being, instead of giving you a safe space to thrive. for allowing weeds masquerading as plants into our garden, forcing so many of you out. To my knowledge, numerous people have been permabanned from this site at point or another. I would not say you are necessarily doing too little. I'm not around enough to say for sure, but if you do need to get rid of toxicity, then it's not necessarily too harsh to crackdown on it moreso for the sake of being an imageboard that tries to maintain some sort of positive atmosphere (a rarity).
>May i turn on accounts, that require passwords, and vetting? >An alternative idea would be to select basically any dedicated poster left, and make them a janitor, giving them control over bans and deletes.>We would start with common thread OPs, and give them executive control over enforcement of rules in their thread.I personally dislike both of these ideas for what this place is but I suppose it's not up to me. If I had to pick one though I guess I'd prefer the janitor idea so long as there's a sufficient ban appeal system.
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>>1191348Long as I get to copyright and trademark my username and tripcode to prevent anyone else from pretending to be me
There is only one me and I'm sure many people are happy that's the case
Can you imagine if there were MORE than one of me? Oh my
No.1191417
>>1191405There is a report button. Who are you referring to? If you mean CP spammers in general, they are permabanned on the spot. If you mean general lurkers, then by default there are child predators on this site as well.
>>1191410>>1191413Griefers gonna grief. Pickle Rick is probably pipes again. And Iara is probably just salty because she's taken L after L on ponyboards. (No offense, but after the last time you lost your mind over the female posters and said you were forever done with ponyboards it's obvious you're bitter and just want everyone else's fun to end.)
No.1191425
>>1190966>>1191206I'm not going to say that hardcore monitoring of every single post or more or less every single post is necessary, but if you've got an absolute vision of this place simply not having antisemitism, not having homophobia, not having sexual harassment, not having transphobia, et cetera, well, then... I can't see this becoming a reality without extremely strict policies regarding account establishments, password rules, and the like.
Trying one without the other is sort of like saying that you want "To write an entire short story in English without using the letter 'e' anywhere." or something like that. You can do such a thing. Yet I don't think it's necessarily worth the effort.
I think we've also got to be honest and remind everybody that the English-speaking world is going through a set of interlocking crisis right now, from a world economic recession to surging bigotry to increasing crime and more. This is going to make even basic communication face-to-face and people living regular lives harder and harder, especially as those in power keep doing their best to drive up the costs of housing, costs of healthcare, costs of transportation, et cetera while also driving up the levels of racism, sexism, sexual assault, et cetera.
In my own case, I'm lucky enough to not only not be homeless but also to be in a decent apartment right now, but I sure as hell aren't immune from the authoritarian ultra-nationalism and hyper-capitalism of the time forcing me to live out of a car or something else basically at random. That's life. I guess. These days.
This website being a place without, say, any hatred of LGBT people getting allowed as well as without any comments glorifying sexual assault getting allowed... in the dangerously unsafe world that we live in during the 2020s (especially after what's happened at the end of the 2024) is a noble goal... don't get me wrong... but it's sort of like building a sandcastle on a beach subject to constant tsunamis. Good luck. You'll need it.
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>>1191415>I would not dare point any new fans in this site's directionperhaps a good test of how the site is doing. would kinda agree, mostly due to a general lack of threads that are actually about pony. but if there is a real resurgence in the future, say in 20 years or something, an og imageboard such as this could have great appeal simply because it is an imageboard.
am thinking
>>1191108 would make the most sense in this context in order to attract future ponies with the aesthetic...
rough draft thoughts about how it might work (hybrid approach)...
1. Pony tries to post
2. Preserve Equestria: A box appears telling the pony they need to send a letter to Princess Celestia via the Derpy /dp/ board to receive a ticket to the Grand Galloping Gala or provide ticket (trip code) (if already registered) (already explained on the home page). The Derpy board is a special board with certain technical restrictions where a pony can only request a ticket to the Grand Galloping Gala.
3. Preserve Ponyboard Aesthetic: After providing an IP address, a pony receives a ticket. For ponies who wish to remain anonymous or don't have a consistent ip address, allow a pony to manage a list of up to 21 ip addresses, so long as they log in from one of the IP addresses on the list. In the unlikely event that a bad pony posts from the same proxy ip address as selected by a good hoof, the ip address would be banned from use by both ponies, so make sure it is understood that if a pony forgets or can't access their account from any of their ip addresses for some reason (such as in the above example), their account will not be able to be recovered - so they should make sure they add several addresses. The more ip addresses that are banned on a pony's account, the more likely that pony would be to be a bad pony.
4. Account Creation: Known ponies with tripcodes would be grandfathered in without having to reveal any additional information if they didn't want to. Ponies without tripcodes would get a tripcode by vetting -- still unsure of what it would mean to "vet" a pony, though ...such as how to know a pony isn't a bad pony just making another account after getting banned? do you mean things like providing an email or phone number, or proving in some other way (such as social media) that you are a pony? -- would that mean each new account creation is manually reviewed before approval? Would there be multiple ways for an account to get approved?
5. Display names for aesthetic preservation and roleplay: In the options menu of their account, ponies can change their display name if they get bored of a name or want to rp, etc. instead of always displaying their username + tripcode. Anypony can see a poster's account name and tripcode by clicking on the name or perhaps right-clicking the username and selecting a menu option (disable by default - this can be enabled by the pony under account preferences), since too many options in the interface can be annoying
6. Tripcode Generator -- Ponies can go see Trixie for help generating a tripcode that they like, if they want
other ideas:
new pony welcome events -- once every season (Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter), account registrations are opened for a week to allow for new ponies to join and have their applications manually reviewed and to join
ponies without accounts can still post but they can only post images from a pre-determined set and are limited to 3 posts a day (unless they have bits (bitcoin accepted)) and they are posted in 5-point #99DB7A-color (approximate) (or perhaps a nice shade of blue) comic sans with no formatting and they are given the name "changeling_xxxx" (the xxxx number is a random 4-digit number derived from the ip address of the poster to maintain a unique id from day-to-day for a changeling posting from the same ip address each post) (reset every 21 days). accounts can receive expedited approval for enough bits.
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Did is problem is resolve yet? Why not Moony is respond?
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i don't stop by much anymore and i think its largely, though admittedly not entirely, because of this nazi bar effect you're describing, there are some great folks here, but its hard to want to come back frequently or contribute anything when there is a frustrating amount of ill-intentioned posters, it just seems not worth the energy oftentimes. some feel that is the nature of imageboards and how they should or must be. but if we wanted this place to be better.. it has to be different, i think.
my absence may mean my vote may not carry much weight, but i am in full support of an account-based registration system, honestly i've felt that sort of thing is overdue.
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>>1191716you are being too literal perhaps.
i am speaking to the idea moony alluded to in the OP post,its a social effect that doesn't *have* to be about nazis. you know "if your bar tolerates nazis, regular patrons will leave and you'll be a nazi bar"
we can soften the language if it feels like spurious accusation, though again wasn't meant to be that literal. "if your imageboard tolerates meaniefaces, your posters will leave cause you've got a meanieface board"
No.1191726
>>1191717It isn't really a big meanie bar either.
Not to gaslight or anything
Troll are apart of the internet, but from what I've seen this place doesn't really have a big meanie troll issue. Like at all. Outside of the occasional poster like Pipes, it would seem more so of a clash of personalities, which is natural
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>>1191716I've seen the "Nazi bar question" brought up online in other discussions where it gets to stuff like food discussions and talk about military history among other things.
It's unfortunately named as a term, but, yeah, the concept is inherently not really even emotionally charged at all.
If I remember right, this one dude on YouTube said that if he allowed a certain group of guests that talked about cooking mushrooms in a given way where it started to shift the overall flow of his channel, then it'll begin to undermine the whole set of goals that he has by not just the official algorithm but also general habits through social norms. And like what used to be an open community about finding mushrooms and thinking about them would become a hyper-focused 'fried shrooms' clique.
No.1191734
>>1191708thanks for saying it
>>1191716there's a thread in townhall right now calling Kanye's 'Heil Hitler' a good song, I think that's proof enough
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>>1191734> >>1191716>there's a thread in townhall right now calling Kanye's 'Heil Hitler' a good song, I think that's proof enoughI disagree. It is quite possible (esp. for high decouplers) to appreciate the musical quality of a song despite strongly disagreeing with the thoughts expressed in its lyrics. E.g., I admire the USSR national anthem for its musical excellence even though I hate communism and communists.
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>>1191737Huh? I wasn't downplaying anything. I was just pointing out the logical invalidity of the argument "Poster X says \"This song thumps\" about Kayne's new song, and this song has lyrics that praise Hitler, so therefore poster X is pro-Nazi". I didn't even dispute whether the conclusion of the argument is true!
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>>1191741>you're offering excuses for somethingI think you're misunderstanding my post. Let's start from the beginning. First, the author of
>>1191716 said:
>Where? There isn't a single pro nazi post hereThen, in response, you claimed (
>>1191734):
>there's a thread in townhall right now calling Kanye's 'Heil Hitler' a good song, I think that's proof enoughThen I criticized your argument on the grounds that people might appreciate a song even when they disagree with the song's lyrical content. So, "there's a thread in townhall right now calling Kanye's 'Heil Hitler' a good song" does not entail "There is at least one pro-nazi post here". Pointing out a hole in your argument isn't "offering excuses" IMHO. Epistemic hygiene is important. That thread provides some amount of evidence of pro-Nazi posters, but it is far from proof of it.
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...the six different types of posters here can be related to FiM.
Rarity: Canterlotpony -- socially well-informed about language, intent, and the broader social implications of any given post
Applejack: Farmpony -- takes every post on an as-is, standalone basis
Pinkie Pie: Funpony -- doesn't take any posts seriously
Fluttershy: Feelingspony -- talks in terms of their present feelings
Rainbow Dash -- tries to be awesome
>>1191708Flutterpost -- post is using language of feelings
>>1191716Applepost -- in general season 1 style, doesn't appear to get fluttershy at all
>>1191717Twipost -- poster appeals to logic and reason
>>1191726Applepost
>>1191727Rarity -- poster appeals to societal implications of posting in a certain way in attempt to both acknowledge flutterpost's feelings as well as change behavior for the good of society
>>1191736Rainbow Dash -- poster didn't seem to understand what Rarity said
>>1191737Twilight Sparkle or Rarity
>>1191739Rainbow Dash
>>1191741Twilight Sparkle
>>1191745Moon Dancer
>>1191750Gray Twilight
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>>1191750>You are assuming the author of that post is being genuine Not quite. I'm just assuming that it is *plausible* that he is being genuine. In contrast, your argument assumes that he isn't being genuine and that him saying "This song thumps" is actually just a dog-whistle for Naziism.
>I have no reason to assume that you are not a nazi yourself.Entirely irrelevant to this discussion! (See also:
ad hominem fallacy.) But for the record, I'll state that I'm am certainly not a Nazi.
>>1191752Indeed. I'm autistic myself, so I'm sympathetic to someone who just posts that he likes the musical quality of a controversial song without disclaiming inferences that normies might draw. But I've also learned thru experience to be more careful about this kind of thing myself, to avoid getting misinterpreted by other people.
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>>1191753Reminds me of the old pony avatar personality type theories.
Do you choose an avatar because that avatar matches your actual personality?
Do people form an online personality based off of the avatar they chose (and thus RP elements)?
Or are observers predispositioned to read a persons personality based on the avatar they see?
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>>1191755Good questions. --probably some of all of the above and then some.
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>>1191756Sometimes I wonder, if Moony would have posted Princess Celestia all this time, whether the way I read his posts / consider him as a person would have been completely different. Or perhaps Twilight Sparkle?
Maybe there would be a way fewer parasocial creeps trying to push him over because "kindness"
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>>1191757Perhaps, but wouldn't it only be natural to pick the avatar you're most comfortable with, especially for somepony with an affinity for Fluttershy?
Even so, the entirety of a pony's personality probably can't be completely expressed through just using one (default?) pony avatar all the time. ...unless of course one were to view ponies exclusively as their Element of Harmony -- then it might be possible.... *thinks*
No.1191761
>>1191754 you're doing a hell of a lot of work trying to legitimize a shitpost into something it is certainly not. Most of the time, a spade is a spade. You're just digging a deeper hole for yourself and this entire website for it.
I'm not going to tolerate this garbage
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>>1191734That thread is a thread about censorship. It isn't praising hitler or some weird shit. Also, Chain hit the nail on the head.
Question: Kanye also mentions he's a cock. Does that mean if you like the song you're into cuckolding? Lol
>>1191739>>1191745If you point out why they're wrong then you're down playing. (Cute anime girls, by the way.)
>>1191750As a bisexual male, this reminds me of those times when it turns out the most homophobic person in the room is actually gay theirselves. By your own reasoning, how do we know you aren't a nazi?
Personally, I dont care for nazis, but I also don't give a fuck if you think I am one either.
No.1191767
>>1191764That' the problem
You don't give a fuck about what others think of you. And when you're in the mood, you actively go out of your way to antagonise everyone.
And I end up wondering how often you've ended up evading bans placed on you by now.
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>>1191765Old ponychan? Not even close. Old ponychan was a pit of nepotism and internet social cliques. While there is a hint of that here, it isn't even nearly as bad.
>>1191767I haven't evaded a single ban.
I do not care what people think of me, so long as they show respect, I will show respect in turn.
Picture related.
Have I been an asshole in the past? Yes. Yes I have. I've already said that I do not claim to be perfect in any regard. But that doesn't take away from the treatment I've also endured.
I also forgive. I give people probably too many chances as it is. And ultimately my loyalty to those I've called friends will eventually kill me. I often feel alone and unrequited.
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>incoming pipes posts
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Idgaf if pipes called me a pussy or dramaqueen or whatever. I'm about to preach. And I'm going somewhere with it. It won't just be me talking about myself for 90,000 sentences.
>>1191757Moony along with a few other posters over the years have slowly chipped away at my hardened exterior with said kindness.
Yeah, some people might see him as a doormat, but he is genuine and true to his heart from what I've seen. Kindness often means compromise, even if it skirts the out own personal barriers. I'm not saying break them outright, but trying to understand the other person talking to you is a good start.
Being kind doesn't have to equate with being "fake" or artificial. It doesn't have to be a means of manipulation. Sometimes altruism really is just for that, even if we aren't robots that are just being good for the sake of being good. (As cynics might try to convince you of.)
I remember when I joined the service I did it because I wanted to be a better person. I wanted to help people. The funny part about that is I realize that potential was there all along, and its shown through a lot of my actions IRL.
(Its dumb and a small example, but, I remember this one time I was on the phone with noomin. I was at the park drinking when I saw a caterpillar on the ground beginning to get swarmed by ants. For some reason, I felt the need to pick it up, brush the ants off and put it in a far away tree. Because "It doesn't deserve to die that way." It doesn't even reflect on the countless people I've helped; strangers just because they were in a jam.)
My point is that kindness is actually a lot easier to give than people give credit for. You don't have to be a doormat, but if you are then that's just something to balance. My own struggle is that I can sometimes take offense easily; yet at others my skin is extremely thick and I can just laugh things off. It's a tricky thing to balance.
Like I said before, you have those that are overly sensitive and those who don't realize they are offending.
If there is one thing I've learned or at least been reinforced from the overall messages of MLP, it's that a lot of times, communication is needed on both sides. You have to be open minded and express yourself, while keeping prepared that the other person just might not be on your wave length.
And yet, with Moony, while we were and often aren't entirely on the same wave length; where as I did see his kindness as a form of weakness in its presentation at first; I recognized his tenacity. Not once has Moony ever insulted me or tried to make me feel belittled or patronized. It reminded me of how I used to act before entering the adult world. And it earned my respect. Moony has strength.
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>>1191792>me>apart of a clique>No, that simply isn't true. Matter of fact I try to be friends with just about everyone. Am quick to anger at times? Sure. But I am also quick to forgive, and try to admit when I am wrong. Hell, I'm only human.
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>>1191794Wrong? Oh, I get it! Like I'm
bad. Like I'm super
cool. You're saying that I'm a super skibidi anti Ohio aura-farming drizzler. No gassin no glazin, you're saying that my style is slayzin, bussin no cap FRFR ONG like GOT-ZAMN
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>>1191754Twilight Sparkle
>>1191755Pinkie Pie
>>1191756>>1191757>>1191759Twilight Sparkle
>>1191761>>1191762Applejack from Pinkie Apple Pride
>>1191764Discord
>>1191765Gray Applejack
>>1191767Twilight Sparkle talking to Season 2 Discord before he was turned to stone
>>1191791Discord after S3E10
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>>1191797Do I look like discord to you?
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If the expectation is that everybody has to be friends and share the exact same interests as everybody else, then that's not only impossible... but like... I don't think that it would be advisable as a mere goal even with very friendly people being all around.
I've personally some incredibly strong opinions in terms of everything from video game franchises to ways involving serving foods to the Russo-Ukrainian War to the evolution of Japanese pop rock music over the past several decades and more. It would be probably not actually possible given the laws of how reality works to find any other English language speaker who lines up on everything exactly compared to me, Pseudo, Fox, PseudoFox, etc (whatever one calls me). Who else thinks about homosexual catboys alongside Boeing rockets to build infrastructure on the Moon the same way I do? And, honestly, why would I expect anybody else to ever?
I think the biggest issue, to get to brass tacks, with Ponychan over the past few years is what one can call the "monopoly of discourse". And the "coarsening".
So, to go back to the discussion about Nazi politics in music and what can be described generally as songs involving extremely negative, even psychotic and sociopathic, content... there's a lot of this that I've personally liked in the past and still continue to listen to. However, there's no way that I'd bring it up here on this website. Like on any part of any thread. It just wouldn't make sense.
I'll go to a doctor's appointment and, because I've diabetes, do things such as start removing my clothes including my shoes and socks. I've not really a choice about this. Neither does my doctor. I need to make sure that my conditions don't damage the blood vessels in certain areas.
Would I go to Moony's current apartment or house, sit down, and start stripping? Would I throw my shoes at the wall? And my socks? Would I rub my feet against the sides of a chair as I sit down on it? No. No!
His apartment or house doesn't have the same structural environment as a doctor's office. It's very different in so many ways. Neither the time or place for that sort of thing. Completely socially not appropriate.
I'll state that I'm a fan of, for instance, Big L the iconic American rapper, who's known for lyrics such as:
>I killed my mother with a shovel just like Norman Bates did
>My old man in the past, stuck me up without a mask
>Then his a** cold dashed with my cash fast
>Fifty G's is what the creep stole so the next day
>Knocked on his door and shot his granny through the peephole
I feel uncomfortable, though, even mentioning being a fan of his in the abstract. There's no chance in hell that I'd go on and on about him and his content. Especially when it goes from simple murder to everything from misogynistic campaigns of rape to vengeful homophobia as well as more.
There's a "monopoly of discourse" that happens when a handful of people start talking about really, seriously negative stuff over and over again, because it kind of sucks out the oxygen of general discussion otherwise. I think. I'm not sure how to solve such a thing that easily, though. It's complex and messy. Accounts may be a part of that. We don't want a coarse place even if it's still functioning per se.
The photograph is related. It's Big L. For context.
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>>1191837
I think we've found your problem poster guys
No.1192033
>>1190966Don't be too hard on yourself, in a way it's impressive that you - and everyone else who posted on the site with good intentions - held out for so long. All good things need maintenance.
In the past I've been critical of your moderation style, but I think you were just cooking with the ingredients you had.
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>>1192059
No.1192213
>>1191753>Rarity -- poster appeals to societal implications of posting in a certain way in attempt to both acknowledge flutterpost's feelings as well as change behavior for the good of societyI can see that. To be honest.
>>1191755>Do you choose an avatar because that avatar matches your actual personality?>Do people form an online personality based off of the avatar they chose (and thus RP elements)?>Or are observers predispositioned to read a persons personality based on the avatar they see?That's all quite interesting! I essentially agree!
I suppose an objective analysis of human behavior that tries to be really fair-minded (such as what I used to do, a bit, when working for my college's English Department and Economics Department as a formal student assistant studying things) would say that all of those trends occur at the same time.
While one of the trends probably is stronger than the other two, that
chronologically they take place during the same timeframe makes things blur in our minds.
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>>1192307
Ok
No.1192487
>>1191838ligma balls lmao gottem.
Also, thanks for the kind words, but we didn't start shit. We just gave a place for it to go, for better or for worse
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>>1192544"There are many doors in life, Ed boy."
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>>1192551It seemed a bit redundant, and unnecessary so I took it out. And yes, you are correct. I've certainly conducted myself in some pretty assholish ways. I could sit here and blame the alcohol, drugs, personal life events that have left me volitile, untrusting, and ultimately trapped between broken and determined to chase away everyone around me, but I feel that it would undermine my behavior. I could talk about all of the death, violence, abuse, and unspoken issues I've experienced.
And yes, these things do happen, and yes, it does influence us, but I also believe that regardless of such; those excuses are more so of a means of understanding rather than.. well, an excuse. In a way, I was lashing out at everyone around me for the things I couldn't change, rather than simply treating people like human beings.
Do I feel bad about it? Yes. Will I let myself eternally suffer over it? No. All I can do is try to be a decent person, and try to make some dumb jokes that I hope people will laugh at. Believe it or not, in the end, I just wanted to be people's friend, even if I didn't act like it.
The point of my original post was the Moony (Along with a handful of other people) were the only ones to really see that. And Moony, despite my lies, vulgar language, trollish intentions, insults, and spine coated acid skin; sat there and supported me with words of support and love; like I was some kind of hidden Undertale boss. (And trust me. I've said some pretty crazy unhinged shit to the guy.)
I was vouching for his character, I suppose. Showing him that I appreciate him.
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>>1192554One step at a time. You can't rush a redemption after all. It has to be genuine, sincere, and natural. I've apologized to a lot of people as it is, but if you, or anyone for that matter want to talk one on one about things, then perhaps somewhere else that isn't the thread dedicated to talking about the site's future.
(That doesn't include apologizing about my personal opinions or preferences either. I'm not gonna get pressured into apologizing about that shit.)
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>>1192563I've been more than reasonable anon. I offered a way to speak to me outside of this thread, said I feel bad for some of the things I've said, ect. But if that's how you feel, then while I feel terrible that you are upset, I simply will not let it tread me from the path I am seeking. I am not telepathic, anon.
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>>1192565Guess that makes two people a little confused at this point. Probably a communication error. Anyway, have a good night. Gonna post a few music links and go to bed
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>>1190966While I am not that active on Ponyville.us for the same reasons I was not that active on OG Ponychan the last years of it's run, you still made great effort into continuing the spirit of kinship that I found Ponyville.us more comfortable than late-Ponychan. When Ponychan was revived, I decided to just stick with Ponyville.us than going back and forth (Other than going to new Ponychan's /rp/ board for RP-session with Clarity and Boat). I and Clarity are still around and rather active here, even if it's mostly around the nooks and corners.
(Plus, it doesn't help we haven't had fresh MLP:FiM content that's actually "good" in a long while.)
>and it is my fault for not taking harsh action and trying to force all of you to love others into beingThis statement has me a little worried for you, given you can't "force" people to love. Love is often by choice and often when it wants to.
I'm not saying you're wrong, just be careful on what you're willing to do to make it right.
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>>1192705
Again your problem poster
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I'm fine with using accounts if that's something you want to do
No.1192916
>>1192842They're gonna learn around you and your hubby
>>1192902Hope you're doing well, ella
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You achieved a lot. You'll continue to achieve a lot.
I think you hit the nail on the head. If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything.
