No.1190966[Last 50 Posts]
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You know, when i made Ponyville, i dreamt that it would be a place of peace, and harmony... to correct the mistakes of Ponychan such that one day, all of the friends would come back.
Like in the Lorax!
But, instead, in my desire to create a tolerant and hands-off environment, we have created a place where kindness struggles to thrive, and bad faith behavior is everywhere. You know that story, about the nazis, and the nazi bar?
i hate to say it... but we've become a nazi bar, and it is my fault for not taking harsh action and trying to force all of you to love others into being, instead of giving you a safe space to thrive. for allowing weeds masquerading as plants into our garden, forcing so many of you out.
There are trolls constantly raiding that our tools cannot control, and who would love nothing more than to see the site shut down
And the good users, who try their best to tolerate it, just can't handle it anymore.
for those of you who are left... the very few of you who remain... i'd like to hold a referendum.
May i turn on accounts, that require passwords, and vetting?
It might be too little, too late, but better late, than never.
What would you like to see done?
No.1190968
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An alternative idea would be to select basically any dedicated poster left, and make them a janitor, giving them control over bans and deletes.
We would start with common thread OPs, and give them executive control over enforcement of rules in their thread.
what do we think of this idea?
No.1190969
>>1190966>May i turn on accounts, that require passwords, and vetting?As much as I dislike passwords and such, they may have become a necessity nowadays..., but what about....
*takes a look around*
Eh, sure. It probably wouldn't hurt to try it out and see how it goes for a little while, at least.
please no two-factor authentication, though! >.< No.1190993
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>>1190971>>1190972that is two pretty important votes already... i don't think it could hurt either.
more decentralization and more power for trusted users was always the intention too... so it could be good.
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>>1190993But who can be trusted in this day and age?!
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>>1190993>>1190996we pair the candidates off, and they fight to the death. whoever is left will have proven their loyalty!
>>1190993having a few more folk with the ability to deal with crap at any given time would be a good idea imo; also it may be good to have people that have traditionally staggered time zones be able to cover other peoples blind spots
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>>1190966>May i turn on accounts, that require passwords, and vetting?Seems reasonable. Right now, it is very easy to evade the ban system.
>>1190968>An alternative idea would be to select basically any dedicated poster left, and make them a janitor, giving them control over bans and deletes.That sounds dangerous, especially if deletes are hard deletes that don't allow auditing.
No.1191023
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Personally, I don't notice much overtly trolling on / pony/ as this site is mostly visited by a smaller group of dedicated posters anyway.
Wezll, there's probably 1 or 2 specific posters who swing from being mildly constructive to being extremely disruptive when they get bored, who either get the leniency from the mods or just evade every ban to come back as if nothing happened.
Unless we're talking /townhall/, but there I feel like mods are walking on eggshells to avoid being called out for being politically biased.
Anyways, not a big deal to me for having to make an account and logging in.
I do think it will probably be an exercise in what you want to do with people being disruptive. Like with a slow site and a reputation of being friendly to people, would you risk it by locking down?
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>>1190966Whatever you feel the need to do, I can run with. Passwords create a barrier to new users, but lol, like those exist. I haven’t noticed much problem on /pony/, but I don’t get out of my thread much. If passwords will make your life easier, go for it.
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I would still stop by.
No.1191036
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Don't let the last schizos from the Klan- Sorry, Ponychan get you down. They're just a bunch of silly tricksters who go too far and are just a tad too autistic. Like, they just can't control their power levels.
Unlike me. I'm just insane but aware of it. Seriously though, you own the site. Its your choice I feel
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I, too, had to make my website require vetting for new users. Granted it was because of too many spambots, but still. We also made it 16+. Dunno if that's necessary here. Anyways, point is, I'm alll for it. Just make it so we can change screen names at will for us RPers (if we ever get around to RPing again) and it'll all be gucci. No uprising.
>>1190968>inb4 they do this for freejokes aside, probably a good idea. but who to pick?
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At this point, after years of that crap, I'd be perfectly okay with an account system. I don't care if its a barrier to new people, we aren't going to attract new pony fans cause the glory days of pony fandom is long dead and for the most part this site still exist mostly for the sake of an obscure community of old friends originally from another obscure community making the identity and origin of the trolls obvious. So fuck it all, they've proven time and again how willing they are to abuse your good faith and it's been pretty fucking obvious since ponyville separated from them that they're motivated by really petty grievances and wounded egos. Just cut them off for good at this point if they're so god damn determined to chase us down and turn our community into the same nazi garden they turned ponychan into.
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>>1190966I don't have anything profound to say, really. It seems standard to require logins and certain rules regarding account status monitoring on many websites these days. So, it all appears reasonable.
No.1191221
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>>1190966>>1190968It isn't much of a solution, rather an observation.
I've seen the way people's behavior have changed throughout the years. From heels turned face and face turned heel.
One of the biggest issues on most of these ponyboards is ego; pride and a lack of empathy because that is the nature of text for most people. It's been shown that both the internet
can both bring out the worst in people, as well as twist your perception into thinking those around you have the most mqlicious intentions with their words. (Funnily enough Key and Peele did a skit on this concept with text messages.)
Grudges grow upon grudges with no burial of hatchets in sight. I've seen it with myself. Perfectly innocent posts removed. It's a vicious cycle. People will never live in true drum circling harmony, but a lot of it is avoidable.
It's also a delicate balance between a sense of free-speech, (sometimes mean spirited) comedy, and conflicting opinions that people are emotionally charged on. And you can never truly please everyone at every given moment.
The issues I've noticed are when people swing too far into extremes of insensitivity and extreme sensitivity.
My best advice would to be to think about your desires and compromise with being more realistic.
>i dreamt that it would be a place of peace, and harmony... to correct the mistakes of Ponychan such that one day, all of the friends would come back.Sometimes hashing things out is the best way for that to happen; to let people figure it out on their own. (Though sometimes a ref is needed.)
From what I've seen, the issue boils down to people and sometimes, people don't want peace; pettiness and vindictive behavior is more satisfying in the heat of the moment. I know that feeling well. Sometimes it is much more satisfying and easy to indulge rather than forgive, because forgiveness and healthy relationships require work, where as demonizing those you dislike (especially on the internet) is easy; where as friendship and forgiveness can be hard. But, the relationships and friend I've made have shown me that it is also worth the work.
Anyway, more janitors could be useful. Power to the ponies. If you need an extra pair of hands, I wouldn't mind helping out.
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>>1191221By the way if this post gets deleted, that wasn't me. I sent you a DM on discord.
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It´s been a long run. laughs, cries, bickering, arguing, problem solving. the world isn´t as it was10/15 years ago. We age, the world ages.
Difficult to say / write whom matures up first.
Moony, you Will always have my deepest respect,love, understanding.
this place kinda been a home until internet,bitterness,people and workaholism changed me.
unsure if vill visiting here anymore, but then again. ive not been the best friend lately and visiting at all in general.
Love ya moon, posters, thanks for the fish:
Toodles~
No.1191340
>>1191221>If you need an extra pair of hands, I wouldn't mind helping out.This is a bold suggestion despite previous offenses.
You're also in a position to enforce plausible deniability due to lack of authentication via tripcode. But no, some other anon is being salty and you have a near perfect record of good behavior. Yeah, surely that's the right line of thinking. Let's make you a janitor.
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of present concern in here, given the reports, is that there is a lot of ban evasion
but the problem is... our bans, not unlike bans on any imageboard, are basically useless
and banning only causes people to be upset, which causes them to troll
and we have seen, a relentless amount of trolling
the question is, what do we do? nobody wants accounts
i could make janitors, and i think i will
but if banning is sure to result in further trolling, which will hurt hte site further, is it in our best interest to ban? maybe i leave that to each individual thread, to decide?
giving other threads other chances to decide as they wish? What do we think?
also...i may ask that we adopt tripcodes while discussing, otherwise it is hard to figure out who is who
all of the troll posts under Nonny's name of late, for example, were all not actually him
No.1191348
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>>1191094hmmmm... :c
>>1191160we are closer to putting the barriers up for good.
i do think there may be a potential pony resurgence in the future... as it is extremely popular in China, which may prompt hasbro to revisit our generation
but whether that will come back to imageboards, i do not suspect so...
it is pointless to conjecture though. maybe you are right too, andrea
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>>1191340I am human like any other. I am capable of self destructive, offensive, and mean spirited behavior like anyone else is. I'm not going to sit here and pretend I've been the epitome of kindness, or haven't taken my own personal struggles out on strangers online. However I have noticed that people tend to blur the line between malicious behavior and differences in opinion, which can cause a cycle of mistreatment, or even abandonments of friendship. I've come to find that abandonment can be one of the worst things you can do to someone. To make them feel incapable of love or understanding. And worse when it is over things that can be worked out with words, time, and empathy, even if you don't agree.
I also have come to realize that letting those people who call me a monster lead me to believe that I am a monster isn't an excuse to be one as well. Believe it or not, as mean as I can be, I actually prefer it when people are friendly, respectful and kind to one another. (Outside of banter. I love banter.) And I'm beginning to accept that I can be extremely kind, forgiving, and understanding when I choose to. I want to choose to be the good guy for once.
It is merely an offer, and I don't expect it to be taken seriously, but if a pair of eyes, ears, and hands are needed, then I dont mind offering a bit of help if nobody else will.
>>1191348This is going to be a strange apology, but medicine (such as BLS) often goes from the least invasive methods to the most invasive methods when try to save someone's life. For example, opening and airway. (NPA, then OPA, then I-gel, or even a tracheostomy.)
If you'd like my suggestion, I would say pick a handful of additional janitors and place the site on a probational period. If the place improves and relations stay positive, then success. If the place turns into a dumpster fire... turn to something more invasive. (Passwords)
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No.1191390
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>>1191386I just hope this pipes guy learns to chill out.
No.1191399
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>>1191393>safer on 4chanYou mean the place where they have confirmed convinced people to mix chemicals into mustard gas? Lol. Lmao even. This place is like the safest place on the internet.
No.1191402
>>1191399Yeah but like, they have rules and moderation. And some parts are chill enough.
And you can easily filter content and avoid some of the worse off boards.
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>>1191402>actual accounts of death, severe maiming, doxing, raiding, and even child predators, ect>b-but filters! You're trolling right now.
>mods on 4chan doing their job>mods on 4chan not getting into huge legal trouble for breaking the lawLol. Lmao
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>>1190966Y'know .. urp.. good, good for you Moonty, fer , fer owning up to your urrrrrp mistakes. Thats a real, a real manly thing to , to urp do there li'l buddy.
But dont feel too bad, its just human nature. Original Ponychan back when Orange made it was all Rainbows and Burpter.. butterflies at the start but lets face it ol pal, sooner or later everyones facade tends to crack. No one is perfect, well except Pickle Rick, because he turned himself into a pickle.
Still lets face it, you had a good run. Place was active, kept some of the community alive, should be proud of that but pony is over my fren , maybe its time to let go, move on.
Concentrate on your own life instead of worrying about keeping this stressball rolling. Virtually every other pony based image board owner cracked on the end, its not worth it.
Well, Boat hasnt yet but we're working on it.
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You are struggling to keep alive something that should have stayed in the past long, long ago.
In my frank opinion this is more proof that it is time to move on and remove this place.
No.1191414
>>1190966Admittedly I am rarely here but i happen to be here right now. And I'm not rarely here specifically related to the reasons you mention, they're unrelated mostly. But if my take means anything:
If this has become something that is nothing but a chore to maintain for you then maybe it is time to hang it up or at least pass the torch to someone willing to maintain it and has less on their plate.
>There are trolls constantly raiding that our tools cannot control, and who would love nothing more than to see the site shut downThat would just be letting them win.
>i hate to say it... but we've become a nazi bar, and it is my fault for not taking harsh action and trying to force all of you to love others into being, instead of giving you a safe space to thrive. for allowing weeds masquerading as plants into our garden, forcing so many of you out. To my knowledge, numerous people have been permabanned from this site at point or another. I would not say you are necessarily doing too little. I'm not around enough to say for sure, but if you do need to get rid of toxicity, then it's not necessarily too harsh to crackdown on it moreso for the sake of being an imageboard that tries to maintain some sort of positive atmosphere (a rarity).
>May i turn on accounts, that require passwords, and vetting? >An alternative idea would be to select basically any dedicated poster left, and make them a janitor, giving them control over bans and deletes.>We would start with common thread OPs, and give them executive control over enforcement of rules in their thread.I personally dislike both of these ideas for what this place is but I suppose it's not up to me. If I had to pick one though I guess I'd prefer the janitor idea so long as there's a sufficient ban appeal system.
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>>1191348Long as I get to copyright and trademark my username and tripcode to prevent anyone else from pretending to be me
There is only one me and I'm sure many people are happy that's the case
Can you imagine if there were MORE than one of me? Oh my
No.1191417
>>1191405There is a report button. Who are you referring to? If you mean CP spammers in general, they are permabanned on the spot. If you mean general lurkers, then by default there are child predators on this site as well.
>>1191410>>1191413Griefers gonna grief. Pickle Rick is probably pipes again. And Iara is probably just salty because she's taken L after L on ponyboards. (No offense, but after the last time you lost your mind over the female posters and said you were forever done with ponyboards it's obvious you're bitter and just want everyone else's fun to end.)
No.1191425
>>1190966>>1191206I'm not going to say that hardcore monitoring of every single post or more or less every single post is necessary, but if you've got an absolute vision of this place simply not having antisemitism, not having homophobia, not having sexual harassment, not having transphobia, et cetera, well, then... I can't see this becoming a reality without extremely strict policies regarding account establishments, password rules, and the like.
Trying one without the other is sort of like saying that you want "To write an entire short story in English without using the letter 'e' anywhere." or something like that. You can do such a thing. Yet I don't think it's necessarily worth the effort.
I think we've also got to be honest and remind everybody that the English-speaking world is going through a set of interlocking crisis right now, from a world economic recession to surging bigotry to increasing crime and more. This is going to make even basic communication face-to-face and people living regular lives harder and harder, especially as those in power keep doing their best to drive up the costs of housing, costs of healthcare, costs of transportation, et cetera while also driving up the levels of racism, sexism, sexual assault, et cetera.
In my own case, I'm lucky enough to not only not be homeless but also to be in a decent apartment right now, but I sure as hell aren't immune from the authoritarian ultra-nationalism and hyper-capitalism of the time forcing me to live out of a car or something else basically at random. That's life. I guess. These days.
This website being a place without, say, any hatred of LGBT people getting allowed as well as without any comments glorifying sexual assault getting allowed... in the dangerously unsafe world that we live in during the 2020s (especially after what's happened at the end of the 2024) is a noble goal... don't get me wrong... but it's sort of like building a sandcastle on a beach subject to constant tsunamis. Good luck. You'll need it.
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>>1191415>I would not dare point any new fans in this site's directionperhaps a good test of how the site is doing. would kinda agree, mostly due to a general lack of threads that are actually about pony. but if there is a real resurgence in the future, say in 20 years or something, an og imageboard such as this could have great appeal simply because it is an imageboard.
am thinking
>>1191108 would make the most sense in this context in order to attract future ponies with the aesthetic...
rough draft thoughts about how it might work (hybrid approach)...
1. Pony tries to post
2. Preserve Equestria: A box appears telling the pony they need to send a letter to Princess Celestia via the Derpy /dp/ board to receive a ticket to the Grand Galloping Gala or provide ticket (trip code) (if already registered) (already explained on the home page). The Derpy board is a special board with certain technical restrictions where a pony can only request a ticket to the Grand Galloping Gala.
3. Preserve Ponyboard Aesthetic: After providing an IP address, a pony receives a ticket. For ponies who wish to remain anonymous or don't have a consistent ip address, allow a pony to manage a list of up to 21 ip addresses, so long as they log in from one of the IP addresses on the list. In the unlikely event that a bad pony posts from the same proxy ip address as selected by a good hoof, the ip address would be banned from use by both ponies, so make sure it is understood that if a pony forgets or can't access their account from any of their ip addresses for some reason (such as in the above example), their account will not be able to be recovered - so they should make sure they add several addresses. The more ip addresses that are banned on a pony's account, the more likely that pony would be to be a bad pony.
4. Account Creation: Known ponies with tripcodes would be grandfathered in without having to reveal any additional information if they didn't want to. Ponies without tripcodes would get a tripcode by vetting -- still unsure of what it would mean to "vet" a pony, though ...such as how to know a pony isn't a bad pony just making another account after getting banned? do you mean things like providing an email or phone number, or proving in some other way (such as social media) that you are a pony? -- would that mean each new account creation is manually reviewed before approval? Would there be multiple ways for an account to get approved?
5. Display names for aesthetic preservation and roleplay: In the options menu of their account, ponies can change their display name if they get bored of a name or want to rp, etc. instead of always displaying their username + tripcode. Anypony can see a poster's account name and tripcode by clicking on the name or perhaps right-clicking the username and selecting a menu option (disable by default - this can be enabled by the pony under account preferences), since too many options in the interface can be annoying
6. Tripcode Generator -- Ponies can go see Trixie for help generating a tripcode that they like, if they want
other ideas:
new pony welcome events -- once every season (Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter), account registrations are opened for a week to allow for new ponies to join and have their applications manually reviewed and to join
ponies without accounts can still post but they can only post images from a pre-determined set and are limited to 3 posts a day (unless they have bits (bitcoin accepted)) and they are posted in 5-point #99DB7A-color (approximate) (or perhaps a nice shade of blue) comic sans with no formatting and they are given the name "changeling_xxxx" (the xxxx number is a random 4-digit number derived from the ip address of the poster to maintain a unique id from day-to-day for a changeling posting from the same ip address each post) (reset every 21 days). accounts can receive expedited approval for enough bits.
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Did is problem is resolve yet? Why not Moony is respond?
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i don't stop by much anymore and i think its largely, though admittedly not entirely, because of this nazi bar effect you're describing, there are some great folks here, but its hard to want to come back frequently or contribute anything when there is a frustrating amount of ill-intentioned posters, it just seems not worth the energy oftentimes. some feel that is the nature of imageboards and how they should or must be. but if we wanted this place to be better.. it has to be different, i think.
my absence may mean my vote may not carry much weight, but i am in full support of an account-based registration system, honestly i've felt that sort of thing is overdue.
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>>1191716you are being too literal perhaps.
i am speaking to the idea moony alluded to in the OP post,its a social effect that doesn't *have* to be about nazis. you know "if your bar tolerates nazis, regular patrons will leave and you'll be a nazi bar"
we can soften the language if it feels like spurious accusation, though again wasn't meant to be that literal. "if your imageboard tolerates meaniefaces, your posters will leave cause you've got a meanieface board"
No.1191726
>>1191717It isn't really a big meanie bar either.
Not to gaslight or anything
Troll are apart of the internet, but from what I've seen this place doesn't really have a big meanie troll issue. Like at all. Outside of the occasional poster like Pipes, it would seem more so of a clash of personalities, which is natural
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>>1191716I've seen the "Nazi bar question" brought up online in other discussions where it gets to stuff like food discussions and talk about military history among other things.
It's unfortunately named as a term, but, yeah, the concept is inherently not really even emotionally charged at all.
If I remember right, this one dude on YouTube said that if he allowed a certain group of guests that talked about cooking mushrooms in a given way where it started to shift the overall flow of his channel, then it'll begin to undermine the whole set of goals that he has by not just the official algorithm but also general habits through social norms. And like what used to be an open community about finding mushrooms and thinking about them would become a hyper-focused 'fried shrooms' clique.
No.1191734
>>1191708thanks for saying it
>>1191716there's a thread in townhall right now calling Kanye's 'Heil Hitler' a good song, I think that's proof enough
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>>1191734> >>1191716>there's a thread in townhall right now calling Kanye's 'Heil Hitler' a good song, I think that's proof enoughI disagree. It is quite possible (esp. for high decouplers) to appreciate the musical quality of a song despite strongly disagreeing with the thoughts expressed in its lyrics. E.g., I admire the USSR national anthem for its musical excellence even though I hate communism and communists.
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>>1191737Huh? I wasn't downplaying anything. I was just pointing out the logical invalidity of the argument "Poster X says \"This song thumps\" about Kayne's new song, and this song has lyrics that praise Hitler, so therefore poster X is pro-Nazi". I didn't even dispute whether the conclusion of the argument is true!
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>>1191741>you're offering excuses for somethingI think you're misunderstanding my post. Let's start from the beginning. First, the author of
>>1191716 said:
>Where? There isn't a single pro nazi post hereThen, in response, you claimed (
>>1191734):
>there's a thread in townhall right now calling Kanye's 'Heil Hitler' a good song, I think that's proof enoughThen I criticized your argument on the grounds that people might appreciate a song even when they disagree with the song's lyrical content. So, "there's a thread in townhall right now calling Kanye's 'Heil Hitler' a good song" does not entail "There is at least one pro-nazi post here". Pointing out a hole in your argument isn't "offering excuses" IMHO. Epistemic hygiene is important. That thread provides some amount of evidence of pro-Nazi posters, but it is far from proof of it.
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...the six different types of posters here can be related to FiM.
Rarity: Canterlotpony -- socially well-informed about language, intent, and the broader social implications of any given post
Applejack: Farmpony -- takes every post on an as-is, standalone basis
Pinkie Pie: Funpony -- doesn't take any posts seriously
Fluttershy: Feelingspony -- talks in terms of their present feelings
Rainbow Dash -- tries to be awesome
>>1191708Flutterpost -- post is using language of feelings
>>1191716Applepost -- in general season 1 style, doesn't appear to get fluttershy at all
>>1191717Twipost -- poster appeals to logic and reason
>>1191726Applepost
>>1191727Rarity -- poster appeals to societal implications of posting in a certain way in attempt to both acknowledge flutterpost's feelings as well as change behavior for the good of society
>>1191736Rainbow Dash -- poster didn't seem to understand what Rarity said
>>1191737Twilight Sparkle or Rarity
>>1191739Rainbow Dash
>>1191741Twilight Sparkle
>>1191745Moon Dancer
>>1191750Gray Twilight
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>>1191750>You are assuming the author of that post is being genuine Not quite. I'm just assuming that it is *plausible* that he is being genuine. In contrast, your argument assumes that he isn't being genuine and that him saying "This song thumps" is actually just a dog-whistle for Naziism.
>I have no reason to assume that you are not a nazi yourself.Entirely irrelevant to this discussion! (See also:
ad hominem fallacy.) But for the record, I'll state that I'm am certainly not a Nazi.
>>1191752Indeed. I'm autistic myself, so I'm sympathetic to someone who just posts that he likes the musical quality of a controversial song without disclaiming inferences that normies might draw. But I've also learned thru experience to be more careful about this kind of thing myself, to avoid getting misinterpreted by other people.
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>>1191753Reminds me of the old pony avatar personality type theories.
Do you choose an avatar because that avatar matches your actual personality?
Do people form an online personality based off of the avatar they chose (and thus RP elements)?
Or are observers predispositioned to read a persons personality based on the avatar they see?
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>>1191755Good questions. --probably some of all of the above and then some.
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>>1191756Sometimes I wonder, if Moony would have posted Princess Celestia all this time, whether the way I read his posts / consider him as a person would have been completely different. Or perhaps Twilight Sparkle?
Maybe there would be a way fewer parasocial creeps trying to push him over because "kindness"
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>>1191757Perhaps, but wouldn't it only be natural to pick the avatar you're most comfortable with, especially for somepony with an affinity for Fluttershy?
Even so, the entirety of a pony's personality probably can't be completely expressed through just using one (default?) pony avatar all the time. ...unless of course one were to view ponies exclusively as their Element of Harmony -- then it might be possible.... *thinks*
No.1191761
>>1191754 you're doing a hell of a lot of work trying to legitimize a shitpost into something it is certainly not. Most of the time, a spade is a spade. You're just digging a deeper hole for yourself and this entire website for it.
I'm not going to tolerate this garbage
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>>1191734That thread is a thread about censorship. It isn't praising hitler or some weird shit. Also, Chain hit the nail on the head.
Question: Kanye also mentions he's a cock. Does that mean if you like the song you're into cuckolding? Lol
>>1191739>>1191745If you point out why they're wrong then you're down playing. (Cute anime girls, by the way.)
>>1191750As a bisexual male, this reminds me of those times when it turns out the most homophobic person in the room is actually gay theirselves. By your own reasoning, how do we know you aren't a nazi?
Personally, I dont care for nazis, but I also don't give a fuck if you think I am one either.
No.1191767
>>1191764That' the problem
You don't give a fuck about what others think of you. And when you're in the mood, you actively go out of your way to antagonise everyone.
And I end up wondering how often you've ended up evading bans placed on you by now.
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>>1191765Old ponychan? Not even close. Old ponychan was a pit of nepotism and internet social cliques. While there is a hint of that here, it isn't even nearly as bad.
>>1191767I haven't evaded a single ban.
I do not care what people think of me, so long as they show respect, I will show respect in turn.
Picture related.
Have I been an asshole in the past? Yes. Yes I have. I've already said that I do not claim to be perfect in any regard. But that doesn't take away from the treatment I've also endured.
I also forgive. I give people probably too many chances as it is. And ultimately my loyalty to those I've called friends will eventually kill me. I often feel alone and unrequited.
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>incoming pipes posts
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Idgaf if pipes called me a pussy or dramaqueen or whatever. I'm about to preach. And I'm going somewhere with it. It won't just be me talking about myself for 90,000 sentences.
>>1191757Moony along with a few other posters over the years have slowly chipped away at my hardened exterior with said kindness.
Yeah, some people might see him as a doormat, but he is genuine and true to his heart from what I've seen. Kindness often means compromise, even if it skirts the out own personal barriers. I'm not saying break them outright, but trying to understand the other person talking to you is a good start.
Being kind doesn't have to equate with being "fake" or artificial. It doesn't have to be a means of manipulation. Sometimes altruism really is just for that, even if we aren't robots that are just being good for the sake of being good. (As cynics might try to convince you of.)
I remember when I joined the service I did it because I wanted to be a better person. I wanted to help people. The funny part about that is I realize that potential was there all along, and its shown through a lot of my actions IRL.
(Its dumb and a small example, but, I remember this one time I was on the phone with noomin. I was at the park drinking when I saw a caterpillar on the ground beginning to get swarmed by ants. For some reason, I felt the need to pick it up, brush the ants off and put it in a far away tree. Because "It doesn't deserve to die that way." It doesn't even reflect on the countless people I've helped; strangers just because they were in a jam.)
My point is that kindness is actually a lot easier to give than people give credit for. You don't have to be a doormat, but if you are then that's just something to balance. My own struggle is that I can sometimes take offense easily; yet at others my skin is extremely thick and I can just laugh things off. It's a tricky thing to balance.
Like I said before, you have those that are overly sensitive and those who don't realize they are offending.
If there is one thing I've learned or at least been reinforced from the overall messages of MLP, it's that a lot of times, communication is needed on both sides. You have to be open minded and express yourself, while keeping prepared that the other person just might not be on your wave length.
And yet, with Moony, while we were and often aren't entirely on the same wave length; where as I did see his kindness as a form of weakness in its presentation at first; I recognized his tenacity. Not once has Moony ever insulted me or tried to make me feel belittled or patronized. It reminded me of how I used to act before entering the adult world. And it earned my respect. Moony has strength.
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>>1191792>me>apart of a clique>No, that simply isn't true. Matter of fact I try to be friends with just about everyone. Am quick to anger at times? Sure. But I am also quick to forgive, and try to admit when I am wrong. Hell, I'm only human.
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>>1191794Wrong? Oh, I get it! Like I'm
bad. Like I'm super
cool. You're saying that I'm a super skibidi anti Ohio aura-farming drizzler. No gassin no glazin, you're saying that my style is slayzin, bussin no cap FRFR ONG like GOT-ZAMN
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>>1191754Twilight Sparkle
>>1191755Pinkie Pie
>>1191756>>1191757>>1191759Twilight Sparkle
>>1191761>>1191762Applejack from Pinkie Apple Pride
>>1191764Discord
>>1191765Gray Applejack
>>1191767Twilight Sparkle talking to Season 2 Discord before he was turned to stone
>>1191791Discord after S3E10
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>>1191797Do I look like discord to you?
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If the expectation is that everybody has to be friends and share the exact same interests as everybody else, then that's not only impossible... but like... I don't think that it would be advisable as a mere goal even with very friendly people being all around.
I've personally some incredibly strong opinions in terms of everything from video game franchises to ways involving serving foods to the Russo-Ukrainian War to the evolution of Japanese pop rock music over the past several decades and more. It would be probably not actually possible given the laws of how reality works to find any other English language speaker who lines up on everything exactly compared to me, Pseudo, Fox, PseudoFox, etc (whatever one calls me). Who else thinks about homosexual catboys alongside Boeing rockets to build infrastructure on the Moon the same way I do? And, honestly, why would I expect anybody else to ever?
I think the biggest issue, to get to brass tacks, with Ponychan over the past few years is what one can call the "monopoly of discourse". And the "coarsening".
So, to go back to the discussion about Nazi politics in music and what can be described generally as songs involving extremely negative, even psychotic and sociopathic, content... there's a lot of this that I've personally liked in the past and still continue to listen to. However, there's no way that I'd bring it up here on this website. Like on any part of any thread. It just wouldn't make sense.
I'll go to a doctor's appointment and, because I've diabetes, do things such as start removing my clothes including my shoes and socks. I've not really a choice about this. Neither does my doctor. I need to make sure that my conditions don't damage the blood vessels in certain areas.
Would I go to Moony's current apartment or house, sit down, and start stripping? Would I throw my shoes at the wall? And my socks? Would I rub my feet against the sides of a chair as I sit down on it? No. No!
His apartment or house doesn't have the same structural environment as a doctor's office. It's very different in so many ways. Neither the time or place for that sort of thing. Completely socially not appropriate.
I'll state that I'm a fan of, for instance, Big L the iconic American rapper, who's known for lyrics such as:
>I killed my mother with a shovel just like Norman Bates did
>My old man in the past, stuck me up without a mask
>Then his a** cold dashed with my cash fast
>Fifty G's is what the creep stole so the next day
>Knocked on his door and shot his granny through the peephole
I feel uncomfortable, though, even mentioning being a fan of his in the abstract. There's no chance in hell that I'd go on and on about him and his content. Especially when it goes from simple murder to everything from misogynistic campaigns of rape to vengeful homophobia as well as more.
There's a "monopoly of discourse" that happens when a handful of people start talking about really, seriously negative stuff over and over again, because it kind of sucks out the oxygen of general discussion otherwise. I think. I'm not sure how to solve such a thing that easily, though. It's complex and messy. Accounts may be a part of that. We don't want a coarse place even if it's still functioning per se.
The photograph is related. It's Big L. For context.
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>>1191837
I think we've found your problem poster guys
No.1192033
>>1190966Don't be too hard on yourself, in a way it's impressive that you - and everyone else who posted on the site with good intentions - held out for so long. All good things need maintenance.
In the past I've been critical of your moderation style, but I think you were just cooking with the ingredients you had.
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>>1192059
No.1192213
>>1191753>Rarity -- poster appeals to societal implications of posting in a certain way in attempt to both acknowledge flutterpost's feelings as well as change behavior for the good of societyI can see that. To be honest.
>>1191755>Do you choose an avatar because that avatar matches your actual personality?>Do people form an online personality based off of the avatar they chose (and thus RP elements)?>Or are observers predispositioned to read a persons personality based on the avatar they see?That's all quite interesting! I essentially agree!
I suppose an objective analysis of human behavior that tries to be really fair-minded (such as what I used to do, a bit, when working for my college's English Department and Economics Department as a formal student assistant studying things) would say that all of those trends occur at the same time.
While one of the trends probably is stronger than the other two, that
chronologically they take place during the same timeframe makes things blur in our minds.
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>>1192307
Ok
No.1192487
>>1191838ligma balls lmao gottem.
Also, thanks for the kind words, but we didn't start shit. We just gave a place for it to go, for better or for worse
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>>1192544"There are many doors in life, Ed boy."
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>>1192551It seemed a bit redundant, and unnecessary so I took it out. And yes, you are correct. I've certainly conducted myself in some pretty assholish ways. I could sit here and blame the alcohol, drugs, personal life events that have left me volitile, untrusting, and ultimately trapped between broken and determined to chase away everyone around me, but I feel that it would undermine my behavior. I could talk about all of the death, violence, abuse, and unspoken issues I've experienced.
And yes, these things do happen, and yes, it does influence us, but I also believe that regardless of such; those excuses are more so of a means of understanding rather than.. well, an excuse. In a way, I was lashing out at everyone around me for the things I couldn't change, rather than simply treating people like human beings.
Do I feel bad about it? Yes. Will I let myself eternally suffer over it? No. All I can do is try to be a decent person, and try to make some dumb jokes that I hope people will laugh at. Believe it or not, in the end, I just wanted to be people's friend, even if I didn't act like it.
The point of my original post was the Moony (Along with a handful of other people) were the only ones to really see that. And Moony, despite my lies, vulgar language, trollish intentions, insults, and spine coated acid skin; sat there and supported me with words of support and love; like I was some kind of hidden Undertale boss. (And trust me. I've said some pretty crazy unhinged shit to the guy.)
I was vouching for his character, I suppose. Showing him that I appreciate him.
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>>1192554One step at a time. You can't rush a redemption after all. It has to be genuine, sincere, and natural. I've apologized to a lot of people as it is, but if you, or anyone for that matter want to talk one on one about things, then perhaps somewhere else that isn't the thread dedicated to talking about the site's future.
(That doesn't include apologizing about my personal opinions or preferences either. I'm not gonna get pressured into apologizing about that shit.)
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>>1192563I've been more than reasonable anon. I offered a way to speak to me outside of this thread, said I feel bad for some of the things I've said, ect. But if that's how you feel, then while I feel terrible that you are upset, I simply will not let it tread me from the path I am seeking. I am not telepathic, anon.
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>>1192565Guess that makes two people a little confused at this point. Probably a communication error. Anyway, have a good night. Gonna post a few music links and go to bed
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>>1190966While I am not that active on Ponyville.us for the same reasons I was not that active on OG Ponychan the last years of it's run, you still made great effort into continuing the spirit of kinship that I found Ponyville.us more comfortable than late-Ponychan. When Ponychan was revived, I decided to just stick with Ponyville.us than going back and forth (Other than going to new Ponychan's /rp/ board for RP-session with Clarity and Boat). I and Clarity are still around and rather active here, even if it's mostly around the nooks and corners.
(Plus, it doesn't help we haven't had fresh MLP:FiM content that's actually "good" in a long while.)
>and it is my fault for not taking harsh action and trying to force all of you to love others into beingThis statement has me a little worried for you, given you can't "force" people to love. Love is often by choice and often when it wants to.
I'm not saying you're wrong, just be careful on what you're willing to do to make it right.
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>>1192705
Again your problem poster
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I'm fine with using accounts if that's something you want to do
No.1192916
>>1192842They're gonna learn around you and your hubby
>>1192902Hope you're doing well, ella
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You achieved a lot. You'll continue to achieve a lot.
I think you hit the nail on the head. If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything.
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Oh yeah, everyone thinks theyre tolerant till the literal Nazis show up.
Dont forget to pack a wife. A full on sorta-like people moment.
Anyway, ther:s lots of fire that needs to be werfed over things and enemies.
No.1193841
>>1193828I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say but I never disagreed with that idea. One of the reasons I'm even saying this is because the staff either is unwilling to directly root out the problem by bans or unable to determine definitively who the nazis worth banning are. I never said don't ban nazis, in fact removing townhall would more likely lead to that than the currently proposed solutions and expecting staff to sort out who is and isn't worth deeming a nazi worth banning which lets be honest probably would result in nobody new being banned regardless of if they should be especially since they probably won't be acting like it at the relevant moment anymore (if they aren't already) and there probably won't be an exclusion of them from making an account as a result. That's why we're even having this discussion of alternate solutions in the first place like making accounts or making more members janitors. No offense meant at all to the staff, I don't envy their position especially with the inevitability of the rest of the right-wing or possibly centre of this site either also having to be banned and the site becoming deader or willing to complain about one of their own being banned. Lets be honest everything seriously proposed and considered by staff so far here seems to just be a bandaid solution for the underlying problem if there are legitimate nazis here that are not already banned compared to my suggestion so I don't know why you're saying this to me. At worst nazis have to not act like nazis anymore which lets be honest would probably be the best case scenario of the 2 main proposed solutions. Cutting out townhall also cuts out not only the main problem to some extent since being a nazi is inherently political but it also does away with needless political bickering that goes nowhere which is most of what townhall is now. Some bickering is also between liberals and the left or liberals and liberals and so on and increasing frustration and more from what I've observed. It seems like a win-win for everyone honestly this doesn't seem like the most well-suited place for politics anyway.
Assuming the problem here isn't just preventing people who are ALREADY banned from posting more which lets be honest it doesn't seem to be from various posts here. We also have posts indicating ill-intentioned posters and admission that nazi is not always used literally and I think there's an underlying desire to root out people who are being subtly mean or "trollish" or who are established members here but because of that they are shown leniency because they are not going particularly overboard which again how do you root that out effectively if the problem is an established poster who isn't banned and likely will have an account? You're probably not getting what you probably want or others want out of this no matter what happens likely but since we apparently can't have harsher rules or enforcement or targeting specific people effectively removing townhall would probably bring us closer than either of the 2 proposals. Besides, doing one of the 2 proposals can be done alongside removing townhall.
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>>1193841I was actually agreeing with you.
>>1193841>One of the reasons I'm even saying this is because the staff either is unwilling to directly root out the problem by bans or unable to determine definitively who the nazis worth banning are.That and as I've always seen it, an unwillingness to employ a healthy degree of cynicism and considering when arrogant Nazis may not being honest or sincere with them, seemingly because a
fear of even a hint of cynicism. That was a problem I had with the Luna admin especially when she once said 'I'd rather be loving and wrong than cynical and right' as if those two were mutually exclusive.
>especially with the inevitability of the rest of the right-wing or possibly centre of this site either also having to be banned and the site becoming deader or willing to complain about one of their own being banned.Well, quality is more important than quantity.
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Thanks for the unban, moony.
>>1194075>>1193859>>1194131From what I've seen of this place, there actually aren't really
any bigots whatsoever. At the very least the few that are open about their prejudices are pretty tame.
If anything it's the overly sensitive posters that are a problem. (Openly calling people stupid and name calling, starting flame wars and getting upset beyond belief, telling people they hope that they experience fates worse than death, falsely accusing people of being rapists, ect.) It's like the same attitude that /pol/ harbors, but with a 'woke' moral signaling flavor.
And even then, I'd say everyone here is pretty cool when they're chill and not at one another's throats. I dont even think townhall needs to be removed, but that's just my opinion.
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>>1194141>telling people they hope that they experience fates worse than deathYeah, I guess I'm just 'being woke' resenting people who think they're personal inconvenience and discomfort with masking was worse than people dying of covid, especially after losing family to it.
Fuck off ass hat.
Also, we were never friends to begin with. I was never trying to change your opinions or punish you for them. I'm protecting myself from someone I can't trust.
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Which one of these are you, when it comes down to your core spirit, /pony/?
Asking honestly!
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>>1194186It's funny because I wasn't even talking about you in particular.
>gets mad at me for an observation>immediately proves my point >"fuck off ass hat">in his writhing Andrea attempts to go for whatever angle he can in order to harm the individual he deems offensive>makes claims that I never said about him >plays the victim card in an attempt to appear vulnerable and farm sympathy Congratulations. You played yourself.
No.1194198
>>1194194You called me to have a voice chat over discord, revealed that you lied about being black after I initially expressed disgust at your racism to give yourself moral license, and then said something about how everyone is always talking about me behind my back and how
you were talking to '
the Andrea'. What the fuck am I supposed to think about that? I don't give a shit if assholes obsess about me treating them like they were assholes, but how am I supposed to trust you weren't just fishing for dirt to talk about me to everyone else, why should have I trusted that I sincerely wanted to be my friend after dropping all those red flags?
And of course, after expressing my anxieties to you over the election, you just talked down to me about my concerns, as if I was just some fucking stupid little girl worried over nothing. It wasn't that you voted for Trump that made me cut you off, it's what your condescension said about your fucking attitude about me actually is. I wasn't looking forward to have to placate your ego if the answer I could give to any question of how I'm doing on any given day is that I'm fucking worried about the only family I have left back home cause of how MAGA policies are directly hurting them. And of course I resent everyone who helped make that happen,
that's normalI've been burned enough by fragile narcissist from ponychan, I don't need another one trying to shame me for 'being too sensitive' and acting like that makes me the bad guy for getting hurt.
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>>1194141I would disagree, but that's because the bigots I run into 'round here are the "reverse" types.
Guys who'll, say, call you a coward if you don't feel bad about what people with the same skin color as you did.
The solution though even with such people is just to ban politics.
Politics in general is toxic as fuck.
No.1194205
>>1194203>Guys who'll, say, call you a coward if you don't feel bad about what people with the same skin color as you did.Right ... and not the assholes who report you to Moony for 'propoganda' and accuse you of anti-white racism for merely
mentioning racism on /townhall/
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>>1194205Why on earth would you care about reports?
People can report things for any number of reasons.
I can click the checkbox right now on this post and report it for "italics".
That doesn't mean anything.
Seems an incredibly silly thing to allow to tickle your bonnet so.
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>>1194198I dont need to fish for dirt in order to get it. Not that I'd care enough to do that in the first place. I never said anything about people talking behind your back. Maybe you misunderstood me.
>you just talked down to me about my concerns, as if I was just some fucking stupid little girl worried over nothing. It wasn't that you voted for Trump that made me cut you ofReassurance and attempting to comfort someone who was clearly having an crisis over something that wasn't going to happen (and still hasn't) is much different than talking down on you in a patronizing way.
>I've been burned enough by fragile narcissist from ponychan, I don't need another one trying to shame me for 'being too sensitive' and acting like that makes me the bad guy for getting hurt.>tells people to die and insults them over opinions>"Y-You're a fragile narcissist!"Okay boomer.
>You called me to have a voice chat over discord, revealed that you lied about being black That wasn't me. That must have been some other anon.
>>1194199You aren't the only person to have used those words or wished similar things on people over opinions, and even if you were they are a prime example as to the perpetuating issue.
Wishing fates worse than death on people was also a direct violation of the rules, which you don't seem to care about what so ever when your vanity is challenged.
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>>1194206It reveals a lot about the willingness to
actually engage with a perfectly civil post, reveals that the problem here is that people on /townhall/ who are quick to accuse other of being oversensitive are
fucking hypocrites I didn't forget this
>>>/canterlot/7233The whole fucking altercation started cause someone was posting a thread It says a lot about the
real problem with /townhall/ and how completely fucking full of shit certain specific people there, and would probably be perfectly okay otherwise.
Why the fuck should I engage civilly with people who try to bully anyone out if they post a perspective that others are too fragile to engage with honestly? I would love to have discussions on topics that are deeply concerning to me considering current events but I
know it will trigger the MAGAts screaming "fake news" or accusing me of deliberately attacking them personally or some other bullshit. That's who you people demonstrated you are.
I mean you people are right here not engaging honestly with what the word 'humility' means and spent all that time disengenuously trying to act like I was telling you to grovel and feel shame for the past, like no matter how I clarified it, as if being humble is the same at all.
>>1194207>You aren't the only person to have used those words or wished similar things on people over opinions, and even if you were they are a prime example as to the perpetuating issue.Fuck off dude I was posting as
<this avatar and you even took screenshots of it in your comment on that thread. You can't play dumb here, asshole. It's pretty fucking clear your comment was meant to include me..
>Wishing fates worse than death on people was also a direct violation of the rules, which you don't seem to care about what so ever when your vanity is challenged.The people on /townhall/ have long proven, since
long before you even showed up here, that they don't give a shit about the rules if someone threatens their personal insecurities. By that point I was deeply dissillusion and actually expected to be banned for that cause I know no one there is fucking sincere about trying to be 'civil'. All those fuckers prove that they're full of shit. Proven that they just cannot accept that something that
feels like a personal attack isn't necessarily so and just preemptively attack any way, so I said 'fuck the rules' and expressed myself there cause venting about people who frustrate you over a contentious topic is also against the rules on /pony/, and cause the thread about the topic just happened to be there. And yeah, I stand by that sentiment. I had people in my family die of covid and
of course I am mad as hell at everyone who decided that covid was fake or not deadly and that masking was some fucking conspiracy theory, cause they can't handle the reality that treating one's own discomfort with masking as worse than potentially endangering people more vulnerable than oneself really makes them fucking scum, so
of course they'd embrace cowardly denial of reality.
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>>1194212>I had people in my family die of covid and of course I am mad as hell at everyone who decided that covid was fake or not deadlyyou must be mad as hell at China then.
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>>1194212It was rather obviously not just "posting a thread" that was the issue. Else this'd've occured in numerous other threads. I do not believe your presupposition that "posting a thread" is the sole factor that resulted in that disagreement. I certainly feel quite confident I could go there and say "Bread is pretty tasty" and not get people up in arms that I started from the get-go with an insulting premise towards those who may disagree.
>Why the fuck should I engage civilly with people who try to bully anyone out if they post a perspective that others are too fragile to engage with honestly?Put plainly, if your stance to disagreement is to call it "bullying", you are far, far too fragile to hold these conversations in the first place.
Politics is something that, if that is your stance you take, you ought avoid.
You fundamentally lack the maturity to discuss the subject.
Others are not "fragile" just because they disagree with you.
Disagreement is natural.
They are not "bullying" you, when they take issue with being called cowards, either.
This, too, is quite natural.
>or accusing me of deliberately attacking them personally or some other bullshitI would posit that if you have an issue with people accusing you of throwing around personal attacks, you ought simply not throw around personal attacks.
Again, immediately going from the get-go and labeling everyone who disagrees with you a 'coward' is not liable to result in agreement or amiable understanding.
Resorting to insults from the getgo is simply going to result in more insults being thrown around.
>I mean you people are right here not engaging honestly with what the word 'humility' meansOr more simply you and I and the rest of us there had a disagreement in your usage, and what that means.
Because at the end of the day, you did yourself state, to quote;
>>>/townhall/15861>"Humility is being able to accept all shortcomings of oneself and one's identities, especially one's potential future shortcomings"I know you feel differently, but I do not regard the sins of people whom I do not even have any relation to, whom existed long, long before I ever first lived, whom I have no control nor obligation over, in any way shape or form an example of my own shortcomings. Nor some shortcoming I need overcome, nor do I find any cause whatsoever to accept such a thing.
Again,
you feel differently.
That's fine. You are allowed to feel differently.
But insulting others who dare disagree with you from the start and then crying about the inevitable response, I am sorry to say, is just pathetic.
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>>1194212>Proven that they just cannot accept that something that feels like a personal attack isn't necessarily so and just preemptively attack any way, so I said 'fuck the rules' and expressed myself there cause venting about people who frustrate you over a contentious topic is also against the rules on /pony/What sort of anime villain arc is this? You're telling me that you're mad because you weren't allowed to make threads talking shit about people? Because last time I checked it was perfectly within the rules to criticize (even critically) the behaviors and opinions of other people. If we're talking about that specific thread where you and Snake were arguing, the difference is you were telling him that you hoped he and his loved ones endured fates worse than death. And even
that didn't get you banned or in trouble with the rules. You just the smoke and couldn't handle it.
I even told people to lay off of you because I could tell it was one of those things that probably hurt to talk about and all.
When it comes to covid, there are things I agree with you about, and things I disagree with you about. There are things I agree with snake and my other friends about and things I disagree with them about. The difference is I typically don't shit my pants and start kicking and screaming on the floor when someone disagrees with me.
>you even took screenshots of it in your comment on that thread. What are you talking about?
Anyway. I don't hate you. I'm not here to dab and dunk on you.
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>>1194215Fuck off you disengenuous cunt!
In the thread, which was one about changing brandings on Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben products. I
explained a perspective,
nothing more! And then I'm
fucking accused of 'looking for things to be mad about' and just pretending like I was making an argument. That's not just disagreeing, that's fucking attacking me, simply for trying to add to the discussion. It's fucking
getting triggered!
I called them out on it meeting incivilitt with incivility and they fucking gal to simply reply with "calm down', playing dumb like they didn't just attack me and obviously too fucking triggered to go back and reread what I posted.
And that led to this
>>>/canterlot/7233The fact that this even happened in the first place speaks
volumes about the people there on /townhall/. They don't fucking care about actually having open discussion at all if they'd be so triggered to engage in that familiar bullying tactic and engage in that much posturing over it? How the hell did companies changing their branding make
anyone a victim, who died, who traumatized by it ? What was so [i]fucking[ti] threatening about trying to make a perspective understandable by merely clarifying it? What the fuck is
wrong with y'all?
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I think you should all agree you're at an impass and leave it at that.
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>>1194233>Snake were arguing, the difference is you were telling him that you hoped he and his loved ones endured fates worse than death.Yes. It's hyperbole. I don't know why I wasn't banned, I was honestly expecting it. I honestly don't care if I get banned for deserving it. But yeah I was genuinely that morally disgusted with that attitude, I am disgusted with
anyone who would compare being uncomfortable in a mask with breathing issues for the
bare minimum courtesy of their neighbors and coworkers at high risk with stabbing one self in the leg 27 times. The degree of sheer loathing and selfishness one must have to embrace that attitude is total anethema to
all my core values, so yeah, I got really fucking riled up seeing someone assert that covid was bullshit when it
killed my fucking mom, is it
that hard to understand how that makes me see the MAGA conspiracist cling to what is blatanly denialism? Is it that hard to understand the depth of loathing that can make one feel for someone so fucking cowardly at facing reality that they would rather tell you me that a death I witnessed and was traumatized by was just "fake news" or "bullshit". Of
course I fucking lost it. I don't deny it happened, and I don't deny that I probably deserved to be banned.
But I'll burn in hell before I apologize for it. I'm not in the wrong to be fucking hurt by anyone telling me I'm lying about how my mother died.
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Man, these people took my syrup from me
Then they locked my thread right out
I got so much anger in me, got no way to take it out
Think I'm out of pancake mix
Where the fuck's my quick grits?
Yes, I called you cunt, I hate when people call me a dumb bitch
The shit that I'm posting on /Townhall/—
They telling me “Andrea, don’t say that”
How ponies can't see me in public?
I’m posting to mod-chrome right back
With my avatar famed
I still can’t get unbanned back
With my avatar framed
You still don't agree with my opinion
Ponies see the /Townhall/
But don’t see how I be feeling
So I became an asshole
Yeah, bitch, I’m the villian
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>>1194234>2021Jesus dude.
Even I don't hold grudges that long.
But, let's give it a read, I guess; Hard to gauge everything of course, since I'm effectively going off old memory and that particular thread, but, from my memory, which seems cooberated by
>>>/canterlot/7237 , you threw a hissy fit as usual because someone disagreed with you over Uncle Ben being a "happy slave", claiming they were being dishonest, and then subsequently exploding in your, frankly, usual manner.
Plainly set, I think people were right to tell you to calm down.
Incidentally, for what it's worth I am in total agreement with you that when it comes to /townhall/ specifically, the staff've maintained a horrible job, and largely left it to be a battleground. I said as much at the time, in fact.
But, regardless, this isn't an example of "bullying" and it's frankly absurd to pretend it is.
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>>1194238The problem, as discussed at the time, is that you assume "Wearing a mask stops Covid".
Which was outright said to be the opposite by the CDC at the time, alongside the 'experts' you had throughout like Fauci, as well as being mocked as paranoia for a bit by the media even...
And then suddenly, it switched back. Suddenly it totally was necessary, and there was a pretending that it never actually was in doubt. That all the mockery, all the recommendations to the contrary, they didn't even occur.
And then, what comes later? Well, reports'd come that masking did nothing to slow the spread, as it turns out. That it didn't actually accomplish anything. And then you get into the questions of health concerns wearing masks for large portions of the day, something that you resoundedly wanted to pretend like never happened... As though people who work long shifts just don't exist.
Even now, you resort to the same old same old.
Making shit up, assuming things about everyone else, because oh no nobody could possibly have a good reason to disagree with you!
No, no... They must be evil. They must be monsters. They must be dishonest devils here specifically to bully and harm you, somehow...
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Honestly, how can you call yourself .us if you keep catering to the un-American lefty crowd?
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>>1194234>>1194243Alright, so, giving it the full read, yeah, it's about what I recall.
You had made the claim that Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben were "happy slaves", it was pointed out that "no they weren't", you decided to ignore that, insist that they're still examples of a 'happy slave' because they're "LIKE" a happy slave, and got more and more irate when people called you out. Swan rightfully points out that you're going through a bunch of hoops to be negative about something that just plain isn't negative, and you flip calling them a cunt.
'Least I can fully agree with you on the staff being rather poor at their job, there, though. You didn't get banned for resorting to insults at first when Moony showed up, and instead it was declared somehow "mutual" because Swan dared point out how weird it was to declare something a stereotype of slavery despite it having literally nothing to do with slavery, all without insults or name-calling or cursing.
And that's to say nothing of Chrome's response to the whole thing, which seems to've boiled down to "I disagree with you, therefor, you are strawmanning".
Then again, they flip-flopped so much through that thread, I don't actually think they had a position and it was more a general finger-wagging at folk because they were too lazy to do their job.
But I digress; I don't have a high opinion of staff here. Haven't for decades.
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>>1194243>threw a hissy fit as usual because someone disagreed with you over Uncle Ben being a "happy slave", claiming they were being dishonest, and then subsequently exploding in your, frankly, usual manner. Jesus fucking christ dude, what's so fucking hard to understand what the word 'explain' means you fucking disengenuous asshole! You disagree with an
argument. I wasn't
making an argument!
Go back and reread the canterlot thread with that in mind to make sense of what's going on in the canterlot thread. Y'all got so fucking triggered that it took Chrome recognizing that I was talking about how the character was
perceived and a
character archetype, not who they actually were or even if they were fictional.
All this fucking arguing over it with chrome when Y'all were literally just missing the point I was making, mis-identifying the subject I was talking about.
But, I am also aware of the practice of putting on this show of dominance by nit picking something actually irrelevant to the point being made and pretending like
that's the topic of conversation to argue over. My dad was a fucking lawyer dude, I recognize rhetorical tactics.
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>>1194244Masks do work. Part of the problem is that people were wearing the same mask for extended periods of time to the point where they were becoming sponges for bacteria and virion. Not to mention it was a specific type of mask; n95, and people were using other things like cloth/bandanas/shit that wasn't made to prevent spread. Granted it's better than nothing, but still.
That and of course people don't know how to wash their fucking hands. All of that preventative measure is going to be useless if you touch a contaminated surface and then wipe your eyes, nose, or mouth or something. The mask has to be used correctly in addition to other basic acts of hygiene.
Imagine if I wore a condom after fucking a girl, but my fingers were covered in her herpes infected pussy juice. And then I take the condom off and immediately begin jerking off with that dirty ass hand
But I dont want to get into this stuff for like the 1000th time.
I dont even know why I mentioned it
I've seen the videos of these things being test. The sneeze test with the high speed camera was wild.
No.1194254
>>1194252> I was talking about how the character was perceived and a character archetype, not who they actually were or even if they were fictional. Which was not said initially, and it took ages to get the point you even clarified it to that point, at which point you were insulting people and screeching.
Which only got worse when it was pointed out that the perception is still unreasonable. You can 'perceive' a cat as a dog, but it'd be hardly any surprise someone'd go "That's a cat, not a dog".
> nit picking something actually irrelevant to the point being made and pretending like that's the topic of conversation to argue overAs I said to Chrome, people oft will disagree with portions of an argument instead of the whole.
That's quite normal, and I do not believe it ought be discouraged.
To quote what I had said there, since it's a good example;
>"If you tell me "the world needs economic reform, cows are dying, gas is going up, and ships are sinking", it's not a strawman for me to ignore the matter of economic reform, and talk about what I know of shipping that would suggest that part is not true.">My dad was a fucking lawyer dude,Explains a lot.
Lawyers are not known for their ethics,.
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>>1194253Memory serves that was a big part of the reason there was data suggesting they were ineffective. The reason they work in a hospital environment is they're swapped out regularly; You essentially put it on before contact, and take it off just after contact.
This works fine in a medical context, but just for going about your daily life, or worse, working a job? Not so much.
So you had people with these uncomfortable masks that constantly meant they were adjusting them, bringing fingers close to their face, their nose, their eyes, all while stifling breathing which never does great for the immune system, not to mention acting as a sponge for any bacteria otherwise.
It was a pretty obviously bad idea.
But of course, I'm an evil monster for pointing this out.
Fortunately I am used to that...
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>>1194254>Lawyers are not known for their ethics,.Shots fired, Moony
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>>1194250Chrome's reaction was unhinged. Dude actually thought being a ponyville moderator was like wearing a helm of intelligence. This guy was BINs'ing a tripcode. The levels of unjustified arrogance are unreal. Hit'chu with that "Not ah ah" Jurassic Park style "I'm a moderator, baby ;) so I clearly know what I'm talking about:"
Like how self important and full of yourself can you be? I'm surprised the man didn't start calling himself Daddy and referring to you all as Kitten. "Daddy's annnngie" while he bans people for posting memes in genchat
No.1194258
>>1194255>So you had people with these uncomfortable masks that constantly meant they were adjusting them, bringing fingers close to their face, their nose, their eyes, all while stifling breathing which never does great for the immune system, not to mention acting as a sponge for any bacteria otherwise.I agree. It was good on paper, but the logistics was horrible. Remember all of those free masks that they fucked up and lost?
I say more bleach protocols. Would have helped. As a matter of fact I'm bleaching this thread.
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>>1194259>>1194259>>1194259"Mom go get me more hot pockets!"
!?!?
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>>1194254>Which only got worse when it was pointed out that the perception is still unreasonable. You can 'perceive' a cat as a dog, but it'd be hardly any surprise someone'd go "That's a cat, not a dog".Still wasn't making an argument dude, you don't need to keep going at this.
I meant talking about
public perception dude. It was just explaining, not trying to argue.
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>>1194263That isn't even the steelmanned interpretation Chrome came up with, let alone something ever actually expressed.
The statement "Cause things like aunt jemima and uncle ben are the happy slaves.". is not one that suggests perception in any capacity, let alone public. It's a flat claim.
It was later on changed, yes, but by that stage you'd already said "Fuck you you disingenuous hypocritical cunt".
And then, that's also leaving aside that, if it was just someone else's perception you were presenting unrelated to your own position, people saying "Hey, this guy isn't even a happy slave" could've simply been met with a "You're right, but people see it that way anyways", and avoided the whole fiasco.
Except of course the position you took is that perceiving a cat as a dog is somehow perfectly correct and valid, when it's clearly not, and you'd taken personal slight at folk who disagreed with you on it.
No.1194267
>>1194264>"Hey, this guy isn't even a happy slave" could've simply been met with a "You're right, but people see it that way anyways", and avoided the whole fiasco.Fuck off, the
first reply was accusing me of "looking for things to be mad about". I already mentioned that and none of you chicken shit cowards are acknowledging it. That was the entire reason I responded the way I did in the first place, the fucking accusation. I calmly added to the conversation and got punched for it, what does that say about who you all are?
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>>1194267>Fuck off, the first reply was accusing me of "looking for things to be mad about".Then it was prior to any mention at all about 'perspective', so I don't see why you're bothering with that defense.
If it's about the "first reply", then you made the claim that those two were "happy slaves" when they weren't.
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>>1194269Noonim, this behavior is literally the fucking reason /townhall/ is containment board and the entire reason this fucking thread exist.
I made my point in the initial post, I made it clear what I meant in that post, and immediately was hit with the accusation of "looking for things to be mad about" from the very first reply, to my initial post.
The fact that Uncle Ben wasn't a fictional character was
completely irrelevant to the point I was making at the time which, was about public perception of the character, but triggered assholes wanted to treat
something like some gotcha against an argument I wasn't even making, when I wasn't even making an argument about anything. If anything I was making an argument about the company's reasoning for the rebranded by making a point about public perception of the character, which is ultimately the thing at the core of any business decision regarding branding.
But they desperately wanted some sort of gotcha, make themselves look like idiots who failed reading comprehension and accused me of acting in bad faith "desperately looking for something to be mad about" and pretending like I was making a factual claim about character when I was actually talking about public perception of the character.
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>>1194292>But yeah that potentially explains a lot with him actually.And plenty of others here
I always found it ironic that anyone would hold Tate up as some hero of masculinity when he's literally just a conman selling subscriptions to his 'hustler's university' shit where he teaches you to basically to be stupid enough to buy into multi-level marketing schemes to be real man ... that and to become a consumer whore for useless but expensive status symbols ... yeah, real fucking sigma amirite?
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>>1194294The problm in today's world is that conmen are celebrated heroes.
It's not only acceptable, but the "smart" way to make money.
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>>1194295It's also placing value in superficial image over actual strength of character. Making all men into a bucket of crabs, pulling other crabs back in the bucket when they start climbing out.
It's fucking hilarious honestly how these are often the same people who would be really into cringe culture when cringey people are the people who
actually don't give a fuck what others think and just go on being cringey and liberated from that immature adolescent social insecurity that grifters like Tate exploit for profit.
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>>1194291>>1194292>>1194294>Taking Kanye and Tate posting seriously. That actually explains more about the three of you than anyone else in this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UPVhRU0ovb4 No.1194301
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>>1194290>, I made it clear what I meant in that post, Except you very clearly did not, since you insist its some neutral 'perspective' fare despite not mentioning perspective in that first post.
All that was done there was you using Uncle Ben & Aunt Jemima as examples of "happy slaves", when they weren't.
>The fact that Uncle Ben wasn't a fictional character was completely irrelevant to the point I was making at the time which, was about public perception of the character, But you didn't say that in your initial post.
You never mentioned public perception.
You just presented those two as examples of happy slaves, when they are not.
You never presented it as a "people belive this thing even though it's not true". Not in that first post. You instead presented them as an example of "happy slaves", when that isn't true.
>and pretending like I was making a factual claim about character when I was actually talking about public perception of the character.Because that's what you DID.
You didn't mention public perception in that initial post.
You never made mention of its inaccuracy, either.
You presented it as though it was an already known thing. That these two are happy slaves. When that isn't true at all.
And then you got pissed when people responded to what you SAID, instead of magically reading your mind.
>>1194291It's called a meme, jack.
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>>1194302It's a meme.
Whatever presumptions you want to fabricate in your own mind to claim some ideological affiliation aside, posting a meme hardly makes you a Tate fan.
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>>1194298I made a text wall as to why I could understand why he said the things he said.
Get it right.
No.1194306
>>1194303Again see:
>>1194298It's also the amount of times he does it. At best he's doing it to ragebait given where he is which is another kind of pathetic anyway.
>>1194304 You keep reposting it in the same way that you repost lyrics that you find personally relatable and aside from that you said you can relate to it even if you don't agree with the exact message. We can split hairs over how serious you are about what exactly but it's clear there's a meaning behind many of the memes for you and it would be much less ridiculous if you would at least own up to that instead of always hiding behind "it's just a joke" while you continue testing lines.
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>>1194305I'm still 80% sure it was made by glowies.
Too crisp, too clean, too smooth.
Feels like it has actual production value.
But I am a bit of a cynical paranoid these days.
>>1194306I literally replied to that post. I saw that post, obviously. It literally doesn't counteract anything I said. Come on, man, try a little harder. This is pathetic.
Go read
>>1194303 and get back to me.
No.1194309
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>>1194306NOOOOOO! I'VE BEEN DISMANTLED AND DEFEATED!
No.1194310
>>1194308Regurgitating what I said back at me doesn't make you look cool. And frankly I have very little interest in trying with you because you make it clear with every argument that you almost never are willing listen to anyone ever unless they already agree with you. The less time wasted on you the better.
>>1194309If the shoe fits wear it I guess. But I would prefer if you'd actually take something useful away from what I said. I've played your game and I know how it works you can't fool me. Get it together for your own sake.
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>>1194307Is that a future you'd like for yourself? All you have to do is enroll in my very affordable online class of "Nonny's University for Ballers and Mallers"
No.1194312
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>>1194310> And frankly I have very little interest in trying with youOh, okay, cool, so you're just making up shit and you're too cowardly to defend it.
Great.
Fuck off, then?
Fact of the matter is Nonny's not made textwalls about Tate, as you want to imply.
It's just a fucking lie.
You know it, I know it.
That's why you don't even entertain it.
No.1194313
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>>1194308I remember having a good laugh when it first came out.
>>1194310You clearly don't understand an over-analyzation when you see one. I was explaining my interpretation to the "Why" and how despite how ridiculous Kanye sounds, that many people, myself included have had moments of unfiltered raw emotion fueling our decisions to say "Fuck it. I'm the villain."
I typically do not enjoy Kanye's music, and find that most of his worth is in the memes. I think he's egotistical, arrogant; and contradictory to his own personality in how sensitive and self conscious he truly is, especially when even under the slightest amount of heat and pressure.
But the biggest reason; [i]The most important reason,
is because it is funnyThe fact I have to explain this to you is wild.
No.1194314
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>>1194313Dude's a full blown tribalist.
Even the slightest disagreement'll have him assuming you must be 100% evil. Everything's black and white. One can never try to understand the reasoning of the enemy, because to do so would humanize them, and then suddenly you'd have to give them moral consideration. Suddenly, constant acts of cruelty would be wrong, actually.
This is a pretty common result, especially with them, so it's not very surprising.
Just very, very tiring.
No.1194315
>>1194312You're the one who jumped into something that doesn't involve you.
>Oh, okay, cool, so you're just making up shit and you're too cowardly to defend it.Great.Oh and you also have this tendency to read things in what people say that isn't there.
>You know it, I know it.>That's why you don't even entertain it.No I just wasn't talking to or about you till you butted in and you're not worth it.
>Fuck off, then?Take your own advice maybe.
>>1194313>You clearly don't understand an over-analyzation when you see one. I was explaining my interpretation to the "Why" and how despite how ridiculous Kanye sounds, that many people, myself included have had moments of unfiltered raw emotion fueling our decisions to say "Fuck it. I'm the villain." Yes you have. Too many to just brush off like it means almost nothing. Which brings us back to the original point that started this discussion.
>I typically do not enjoy Kanye's musicAnd of course this is the song you feel like posting on an imageboard where you know it's unwelcome to the culture over and over again.
>The fact I have to explain this to you is wild.We both know the game you're playing. You can explain it as much as you want but it won't change anything. I'd be much more amicable right now if you'd just admit more often there's a reason why you post these things.
>>1194314Ah the classic Noonim headcanons.
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>>1194314>Which brings us back to the original point that started this discussion.Does it really though? What was the original point of this discussion?
>And of course this is the song you feel like posting on an imageboard where you know it's unwelcome to the culture over and over again.Shit, what can I say? All my ponies, bronies, pony, heil Celestia
>I'd be much more amicable right nowNo need. I'm rather content with you at the moment.
>>1194314I am 100% evil though, remember?
No.1194317
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>>1194315>You're the one who jumped into something that doesn't involve you.Even leaving aside that Nonny is a friend of mine, I do not take kindly to people making shit up about others.
I've stepped in constantly for folk I've had disagreements with, over such things.
Frankly, the idea that you can't stand up against wrongdoing because it "doesn't involve you" is just cowardice. And it is in large part why the world's deteriorated so.
>Oh and you also have this tendency to read things in what people say that isn't there.I am not "reading" into anything.
It's simple abject observable reality.
You made a claim.
That claim is not true.
You insisted it was anyways, but refused to back it up.
>No I just wasn't talking to or about youSo fucking what?
If you see something done wrong, unjustly, or otherwise unfair, why is it a bad thing to step up?
Perhaps you and I were raised with different morals.
I never considered it acceptable to continue walking when I know something's not right.
No.1194318
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>>1194316Welcome to the club.
And Moony wonders why this place isn't working out...
No.1194321
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>>1194319>"ur fragile!!!!">Why>"bcuz u posted mememes!!!!11!"It's amazing, honestly, how utterly backwards this crap is.
Guy's out here, absurdly buttdamaged that you would dare post a parody of lyrics, or a shit meme of a guy and his half dozen wolf wives, and yet they claim you're the fragile one.
No.1194322
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>>1194320So your stance is that "fragile masculinity" isn't a bad thing actually?
Really, now?
No.1194323
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>>1194318Yeah, Moony's gonna have to decide who gets kicked from here.
No.1194324
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>>1194323So long as they understand the purity spiral will never end with these types.
They inevitably start eating their own for petty disagreements.
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>>1194325I wouldn't mind getting to see Manley back.
Say how much of a jerk he is however you want, he takes a perma like a champ.
And I still don't think he was that horrible.
No.1194328
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>>1194319I think you used the word belie wrong. Unless you're saying that I fail to show fragile masculinity, in which thanks I guess?
Oh, I see the edit now. I've already explained it before: I just find it funny and a way to pass time. It doesn't hurt anyone really and at the end of the day there are people who enjoy my presence.
>>1194317>Nonny is a friend of mineSo we fuckin' or what?
Either way, this thread isn't an A and B. Don't see why anon is acting like this was strictly between the two of us. I didn't even have the impression we were dueling or something. Reminds me of the virgin "Tries to kill you" vs the Chad "Doesn't even realize he's in a fight" meme.
No.1194330
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>>1194329Nothing more terrifying than a black man who's left the plantation.
No.1194331
>>1194327Manley was far from the worst yeah. I question how some people are still forever banned but some others keep being given chances.
>>1194329Oh no it's just that song and you repeatedly posting it and your posting habits and what I know about you and how you act in general and I know there's more going on with it all than you let on. Most people who have paid attention to you long enough know this to some extent too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAfFfqiYLp0>>1194330Hilarious how many accusations you've thrown at me
No.1194332
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>>1194316Man, they said that lil’ leg was done, but she still don’t slow it down
She got bit and snapped in two, now she runnin' through the town
Had a limp yeah for a minute, but she still don’t play around
Try to test her at the park. She gon’ bark you to the ground
Said she used to eat that Caesar, now it’s Wellness in her bowl
She want cheese. You better bring it — she don’t beg, she take control
Ain’t no vet or bigga dog ever knockin' down her soul
Check this four-pound queen is on a roll
You can hear her bark from two blocks chillin’
Ain’t scared of nothin’, she live for that villain
Munchie gon' chew ya
Munchie gon' chew ya
All my Munchies puppies Munchie gon' chew ya
No.1194334
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>>1194333>"u hav fragile masculinity!!!">not an attackLmao
No.1194337
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>>1194336>I wouldn't say it is if it's likely trueAh, of course. So I can just say you're retarded, right?
That's not an attack. It is, after all, 'likely true'.
You simply have unresolved issues explaining how you act.
We all do. What's important is resolving them, which means I can freely call you retarded, right?
This is such a garbage defense, man.
No.1194339
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>>1194338"Fragile" alone if anything is better.
Regardless, the "insult" would have exactly as much purpose set as your own.
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>>1194340"Fragile masculinity" though explicitly refers to the idea of constantly needing to prove masculinity through overly aggressive, bold, and stereotypical masculine acts, acting to dismiss their entire character, not to mention labeling them a fraud who doesn't actually hold up to scrutiny when it comes to their masculinity.
Just being fragile means one is sensitive. They might respond strongly. But it's hardly a grandiose problem to have.
It's absolutely worse.
And in either case, besides, labeling you a retard would hold the exact same "purpose" as you've set with this one anyway.
No.1194342
>>1194341>"Fragile masculinity" though explicitly refers to the idea of constantly needing to prove masculinity through overly aggressive, bold, and stereotypical masculine acts,That's more or less true but somewhat reductive as it doesn't always manifest that way.
>acting to dismiss their entire characterNot really. The fact that there is more to the man is the whole point of finding solutions to it.
>not to mention labeling them a fraud who doesn't actually hold up to scrutiny when it comes to their masculinity.No you can still have fragile masculinity even if you do everything "right" for what is considered "masculinity". That could happen indirectly but the only people who specifically are using it that way are missing the entire point of the label's existence.
>And in either case, besides, labeling you a retard would hold the exact same "purpose" as you've set with this one anyway.Not really.
No.1194344
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>>1194342>>1194343>That's more or less true but somewhat reductive as it doesn't always manifest that way.Reductive or not, it's certainly how it is going to be interpreted when it's levied at someone.
In much the same way as calling someone a retard is liable to make them assume you're claiming everything they're saying is irrational, that they are mentally unfit, and so can just be dismissed. It's why I used it as an example here.
>The fact that there is more to the man is the whole point of finding solutions to it. This does nothing to dissuade the point.
The bulk of actions can be claimed to be because of that 'fragile masculinity'. It can always be fielded as a shield to say "oh you don't actually think that, it's just your fragile masculinity speaking".
It constantly leaves a means to dismiss someone out of hat.
Again, it is why I compared the matter to being called a retard.
The same effect can occur. It's why such a claim is widely regarded as an insult.
>That could happen indirectly but the only people who specifically are using it that way are missing the entire point of the label's existence. That may well be so, but as with any terminology, the common understanding is going to be the primary understanding of the term.
Not the specialist's view.
>Not really.Bluntly set, the fact that this is all you state on it rather demonstrates my point.
You've no argument against it.
You know it applies just as evenly.
You just do not wish to accept that, as it is disadvantageous to your position.
>To further clarify on this it's what a person is feeling not the reality per se.It
can be just a feeling, or it
could be their actual behavior.
Both fall under the same umbrella, and even then, leveling the accusation still leaves the individual feel as though they're being called a fraud regardless, as both still result in the same effect.
No.1194346
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>>1194345And likewise, I think I made clear how being accused of "fragile masculinity" is quite obviously insulting, and that anyone who claims otherwise is frankly being dishonest.
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>>1194348I thought it was a pretty good idea...
No.1194350
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My masculinity after this thread
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>>1194350I probably shouldn't be the big defender of masculinity considering my little coos at cute things, collection of cutesy pastel dragon stickers, my pink kobold plush, or my insistence on playing the small wide hipped adorable kobold in VR.
But, we are in clown world.
No.1194352
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>>1194338>>1194337Snake, leave them alone. They're intellectually fragile. That's not an attack. I wouldn't say it at all if it wasn't likely true. He simply has unresolved issues explaining how he acts. We all do. What's important is resolving them.
No.1194354
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>>1194297>>Taking Kanye and Tate posting seriously. >That actually explains more about the three of you than anyone else in this thread."Jokes on you I was only
pretending to be retarded!"
No.1194355
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>>1194354Except in this case he's just posting something he thought was funny, and you're actually retarded.
His limericks were gold by the way. I'm still tempted to figure out how to put together an AI to actually sing it. Would be hilarious.
No.1194356
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>>1194351Cute stuff is great
>>1194354> No.1194357
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>>1194356Cute stuff
is great. Don't get me wrong.
I just think it's a bit funny, is all.
My soul is that of a kobold. Not exactly the most masculine of figures.
Perhaps that's why I never put much stock or care into gender, generally.
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>>1194359>>1194358>>1194360Do you guys even have conservatives that post here?
Pretty sure you guys harassed them all til they left years ago.
I'm the closest thing you have left, a dragon-worshipping ACAB type literal cocksucker who might as well be otherkin with how much I identify as the soft, small, supple form of an effeminate kobold.
Who else is there but me?
No.1194366
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>>1194365Mockery is hardly taking something personally.
No.1194368
>>1194366I think if he wasn't he would have just laughed and moved on. Instead he had to take the time to criticize it through mockery while seemingly also not understanding what fragile masculinity means.
>>1194367So it seems.
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>>1194368Or they could think it's funny, and spend the time to mock it because they think it's funny.
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>>1194372I think you're letting your personally issues with him cloud your judgment.
But by all means, keep pretending. I'm sure mild mockery means that he's totally crying in his room.
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>>1194374If he was. Though, he wasn't.
I mean, I'm literally in a call with the guy.
I'm the one who took it seriously, if anything. No idea why you assume such a dull insult would have much merit.
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>>1194376I'm sure you know him better than I.
No.1194388
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>>1194198You want to know the truth Andrea? I actually lied about lying about being black. I was born African American and felt that confiding in someone that I could trust. But after I told you that I was suddenly being treated much differently than before you had known the fact. Suddenly you were giving me special treatments and acting nicer towards me as well as acting like
my opinion had much more weight because
I was black. And then you would get upset if I didn't agree with you because
my opinion didn't line with
your narrative. You started telling me how to be black and viewing me more as a pitching tool rather than a human being. So yeah, I lied. I lied about lying about being black to escape the chains of oppressive manipulation.
>>1194333You know what? You're right. My masculinity is pretty fragile,
because I was born as a biological female. I am naturally very insecure and fragile with my masculinity. I struggle with my self identity on a daily basis. Snake, (or as you call him Noomin), is one of the only people outside of a handful of others are the only ones to have treated masculinity as something normal and not to be seen as a point of something to be ashamed of or seen as something to be insecure about. They've actually taken the time to normalize those traits rather than try to weaponize them against me.
I didn't choose to be born in this body. I've spent so many nights talking with Snake, crying over the phone about the way I
look, sound, and feel. I'm ashamed of my voice. Even when I try to talk like a normal guy, I just end up sounding like Sid from Toy Story. But people like you constantly just want to remind me that I'll never be normal. I'll never be a real man. People like you should be ashamed of yourself.
(IMPERSONATION) No.1194391
>>1194388>You know what? You're right. My masculinity is pretty fragile, because I was born as a biological female. You don't have to make things up just because you wrongly see what I said as an insult.
>I am naturally very insecure and fragile with my masculinity. I struggle with my self identity on a daily basis. Snake, (or as you call him Noomin), is one of the only people outside of a handful of others are the only ones to have treated masculinity as something normal and not to be seen as a point of something to be ashamed of or seen as something to be insecure about.Or pretend like I was portraying masculinity as a bad thing or something to be ashamed of.
>But people like you constantly just want to remind me that I'll never be normal. I'll never be a real man. People like you should be ashamed of yourself.This just feels like trolling at this point, you know that isn't what I'm doing and we both know you aren't FtM. The point is you don't have to "be a real man" if you want to be, you already "are" more or less. There is no such thing as a "real man".
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>>1194392Yeah, I think that's my take on whatever the hell is going on in here.
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>>1194391>The point is you don't have to "be a real man" if you want to be, you already "are" more or less. There is no such thing as a "real man".Nice Kafka trap there. say you aren't insecure = you're so insecure! say you're fine as you are = you're obviously lying! say you like certain modes of being = you clearly don't know what you want!
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>>1194388Well, I guess this is it. Now everything's out there.
I want to to know I'll support you, no matter how anyone else may feel about it. However you choose to live your life.
You're strong and beautiful, no matter what you might be.
No.1194401
>>1194396>say you like certain modes of being = you clearly don't know what you want!Also this was never said or implied. The whole point is being who you really are and not putting on a mask that's harmful to yourself for external validation or some such.
>say you're fine as you are = you're obviously lying!I don't think even Nonny claimed that he's entirely "fine". He can say he is if he wants though.
>say you aren't insecure = you're so insecure!This is more fair although it was never outright said that he isn't either.
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>>1194397Thank you Snake.. You've always been there for me. It's posts like these:
>>1194391 >>1194394 that really make it hard to talk about sometimes; from ridicule and dismissive comments, to outright sexual harassment..
You never seemed to judge me. No matter how weird I seem to be to others. I even remember that time I went over to your house and we put on those costumes. Remember? That scaled outfits? I thought it was a little silly at first, but by the end of the night I was slithering on the floor on my belly, and you were dressed up like an 'eggnant' kobold adventurer. It was actually a really great night.
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>>1194400 You're right; I am criticizing you for speculating about Nonny's psyche. because that's a dumb thing to do and you're practically guaranteed to be wrong, regardless of your conclusions.
>>1194401>Also this was never said or implied. The whole point is being who you really are and not putting on a mask that's harmful to yourself. No; you're asserting that anything he projects
IS a mask that's harmful to himself. Which again, is idiotic. You have no idea what is or isn't the real Nonny; you just claim anything you don't like is the harmful mask. Any opinion or preference you don't like is deemed fake out of hand.
>This is more fair although it was never outright said that he isn't either.Why does he have to say that in the first place? You're the one leveling accusations based on nothing.
No.1194408
>>1194406>No; you're asserting that anything he projects IS a mask that's harmful to himself.I never said "anything". Also what's funny is, even at the start of this all I said was "that potentially explains a lot with him actually", I wasn't even sure if the anon was serious and I didn't even claim certainty of it even. It's only when I got dragged into arguments that I might have came off more like I was because of the tone already present from others. Even after that if you recall at a point I said if he wants to dispute the idea of "fragile masculinity" being a factor with him, fine. The only sticking point for a while was insisting that there's at least a reason why he decides to post Tate and modern Kanye acting like a literal nazi here beyond memes considering he knows the culture doesn't want to see it. At least it seemed like he knows that he's going to bother people, I think even he admitted as much. So no, I haven't even really been doing it up as bad as you think anyway.
>You have no idea what is or isn't the real Nonny; you just claim anything you don't like is the harmful mask. Sure. No one knows anyone for sure, but at a certain point you have to take "educated guesses" with people, as I'm sure you know considering you also do it and did it as early as last week.
>Any opinion or preference you don't like is deemed fake out of hand.Again, not quite as much as you think because I wasn't even claiming anything with relative confidence other than "I don't think he's JUST posting these as a meme". Which I don't think is a unfair assessment considering I'm pretty sure he admitted he knows it may bother people and doesn't care.
>Why does he have to say that in the first place? You're the one leveling accusations based on nothing.Again "educated guesses". And besides a lot of people with the issues being talked about here don't even necessarily realize they are doing it and this is well documented. Granted, other people don't know it either but all I'm doing at worst is what you and he already do to other people anyway.
No.1194411
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>>1194408 Then maybe, just maybe, you could just say, "Would you please stop posting that? Some people here don't like it." instead of being an armchair psychologist and taking plausible deniability jabs at him instead.
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It's my educated guess that anon is retarded.
Nothing wrong with that, of course. It's not an insult. I hope he gets the help he obviously needs.
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>>1194403I actually lean left in a lot of ways.
No.1194416
>>1194411I implied it before. I recall getting something of a "I don't care" sort of response. Regardless what I said in reality was far from the worst thing I could have done. I don't see how there wasn't an overreaction to me at least somewhere in this mess.
>>1194414Exhibit A
No.1194418
>>1194416I am literally throwing your argument back at you.
If you take issue with it, then you ought apologize.
No.1194419
>>1194417I don't want to dig up something from a old locked thread for this.
>>1194418We've been over how there's a difference between calling someone retarded and what I was saying already, you just refuse to accept that.
No.1194421
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>>1194419 He was just taking an educated guess, though. He wasn't outright
saying it. Huge difference; I'm sure you'd agree.
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>>1194406>You're right; I am criticizing you for speculating about Nonny's psyche. because that's a dumb thing to do and you're practically guaranteed to be wrong, regardless of your conclusions>>asserts anon's motivesDamn dude, how lacking in self awareness are you?
Literally every human being on earth "speculates" about the contents of other people's minds, it's like, a fundamental function of human communication, you're literally doing it to in this post.
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>>1194422>Andrea postautism speaks!
I was criticizing his actions as demonstrated, the pattern of behavior itself, i.e. the thing he himself said he was doing, and NOT his psyche. I don't need to assert his motives, even though I think they are quite obvious.
>>1194423 saying, "You're a retard," "You might be a retard," and "I'm just taking an educated guess that you're retarded," are all functionally calling you a retard. If you want to say he has fragile masculinity or whatever such nonsense, just come out and say it. Your delivery makes it no different.
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>>1194419We hadn't gone over it. You dodged the matter entirely.
>>1194420Alright, so you're potentially retarded.
This changed nothing.
>>1194423And I'm not just insulting you, either.
I'm happy to change it to probably, like you, so it's exactly the same, though I see no real change in doing so.
No.1194426
>>1194424>and NOT his psyche. You implied it about as much though.
>I don't need to assert his motives, even though I think they are quite obvious.In the same way that it's obvious that you were just trying to make me look like an asshole based on so little and also something you do which I'm sure Epic would know.
>saying, "You're a retard," "You might be a retard," and "I'm just taking an educated guess that you're retarded," are all functionally calling you a retard. If you want to say he has fragile masculinity or whatever such nonsense, just come out and say it. Your delivery makes it no different.As I've said before saying someone MIGHT have fragile masculinity is not an insult or anything like that. It simply comes from a surface level understanding of what the word even means. If you want an explanation of why go scroll up but I'm not going to keep repeating myself. Thus, saying I'm retarded is insulting, this is not. Again it is absolutely absurd how much you people are trying to make me into a villain for so little.
No.1194429
>>1194426Saying someone MIGHT be retarded isn't a insult either. It simply comes from a surface level understanding of what the word even means.
Being mentally unwell isn't a character flaw. We should treat individuals such as yourself with care and consideration for their probable retardation, and encourage them to seek the help they clearly need.
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>>1194426>You implied it about as much though.Sure, I guess. "You shouldn't do this thing because it is not only prone to failure but also primarily serves as a rhetorical tool to take jabs at your opponent" DOES IN FACT suggest that if you KEEP DOING the action, you are doing so primarily because you want to continue taking jabs at your opponent. You got me there.
>In the same way that it's obvious that you were just trying to make me look like an asshole based on so little and also something you do which I'm sure Epic would know.I guess you're right there. I am trying to make you look like an asshole. Because I think you're being an asshole. If you want me to care about your personal feelings on the matter, put on a name and stop blending into the cloud of plausible deniability with the other people coming in to take jabs.
>As I've said before saying someone MIGHT have fragile masculinity is not an insult or anything like that. It simply comes from a surface level understanding of what the word even means. If you want an explanation of why go scroll up but I'm not going to keep repeating myself.I disagree because of how it's being used. And "retarded" is an excellent example of why this is the case. Because "retarded" can be used as a literal (if archaic) descriptor, but in this context it's clearly being used as a very thinly veiled insult. Explaining how "retarded" isn't insulting in some contexts is no different than trying to say "fragile masculinity" isn't insulting in some contexts, because in
this context, it's being used as an insult.
>Again it is absolutely absurd how much you people are trying to make me into a villain for so little.I mostly take issue with people hiding behind the veil of anonymity coming in to take jabs at my friends, and the plausible deniability passive aggressive attacks people engage in here kind of piss me off. Beyond that, I honestly don't care.
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>>1194424>autism speaks!It's funny you think that's something I would find insulting considering I'm pretty open about having both ADHD and Autism here and am self accepting enough to be open about it. It is what it is.
>I was criticizing his actions as demonstrated, the pattern of behavior itself, i.e. the thing he himself said he was doingDude ... it was just a snide jab. Nonny handled it better than you or Noonim. Do you just get off on RPing as self righteous accusers or something and found an opportunity? Or are you now demonstrating that accusing me of being too sensitive is hypocritical on your part? I mean I don't deny that I'm sensitive, that's literally a trait of both the ADHD and the Autism, but it's still really fucking hypocritical of you.
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>>1194433>it was just a snide jab.That's rather the point isn't it?
The guy makes a jab, but is too weak to actually stand behind it.
Wants to feign a disingenuous obliviousness.
I am glad you agree, so we can stop pretending like it's somehow a crazy interpretation, though.
No.1194438
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>>1194432 Given nothing else to go on, I have to address what you say with no further context. Unfortunately for you, that also means if other Anonymouses come in to confuse the conversation, they get added to the context whether you like it or not. If you want to remain in that state, that is your choice.
>>1194433 I just thought it was really, really, really funny.
I honestly don't even know what you're talking about, because I never accused you of anything. I usually don't even talk to you if I can help it. But you decided to jump in so I responded. You can go back to whatever it is you were doing, now.
No.1194439
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>>1194434
Nice try you mario looking mother fucker
No.1194440
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>>1194436No that's me, unfortunately. And that is my hand writing
No.1194443
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>>1194438Considering how you sometimes treat people when they have names too I think I'll stick to Anonymous.
>>1194441> No.1194444
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>>1194434
Maui?
No.1194445
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What if we all just started over?
What if we were all just friends?
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>>1194447I would like to extend my hoof in friendship!
No.1194455
>>1194435>The guy makes a jab, but is too weak to actually stand behind it. I don't think most people would think of a snide jab as being serious enough of an offense to be treated like an argument needing to be defended. It's basically the lightest little bit of trolling. Nonny buzzes around shitposting like a little attention whore, he's best treated like an annoying little bug.
It's actually really fucking funny this anon triggered you two a lot easier than triggering nonny.
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>>1194453Do you like warhammer?
No.1194462
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>>1194461Nah, no memes. I'm all memed out after tonight. I haven't laughed this hard in a while. Things certainly took an odd turn there.
It's a pretty good game though.
No.1194464
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>>1194462i missed most of it, it seems; it seems interesting, although i do tend to avoid anything with the word "war" in its name
No.1194466
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>>1194464What if we renamed it Lovehammer 40k?
"Remember the power of technology and science, for so much has been discovered, always to be explored. Rejoice at the promise of progress and understanding, for in the bright and noble future there is only love. There is absolute peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of frolicking and joy, and the laughter of generous gods."
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>>1194486>VideoWhat the fuck is this? How does a song about how internet revolutionaries will soon oust Moony and liberate the people not only exist but have thousands of views?
No.1194500
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I don't care that Ponyville isn't always smoothly run.
Moony did absolutely nothing wrong and is an amazing person.
Probably one of the greatest people I've ever known.
No.1194511
>>1194438>I honestly don't even know what you're talking about, because I never accused you of anythingYou
always accuse me of hating others here simply for having "a different political opinion than me". As if there's qualitative difference between being a hateful racist biggot and strongly believing in a radical lazze‐faire economic policy. I oppose both but the later isn't hateful. It just comes off as massive hypocrisy on your part
No.1194517
I don't really think that there's a qualitative difference in terms of politics when it comes to 2020s era America with respect to what's common and what's uncommon.
Like gigantic numbers of Americans today view something like a mass shooting at an LGBT community center as an act that might be morally justified that those victims deserved to die due to God's opposition to their homosexuality, bisexuality, et cetera. Same thing if we're talking about wanting actual child pornography legalized. Same thing if we're talking about making practicing certain non-Christian religions illegal.
I don't really think that you can draw lines anymore. Lines don't exist. They really don't.
The exact same family member who wants to do something like, say, curse a house so that Black people magically can't live there will also give generous tips to Black waitresses and maybe even say something positive about you dating a Black woman. The exact same family member angry as all hell about being sexually harassed will confess at looking at lewd things of cartoon characters online. The exact same family member who wants homosexuality made a criminal offense and gays put into internment camps will dedicate his weekends giving care to the homeless.
That's just America. There are no lines. There are no limits. There cannot be lines. There cannot be limits. *shrugs*
Like, in terms of Ponyville.us itself, I wouldn't particularly like Stalinist monitoring of every single comment and an atmosphere of paranoid fear, but there's also going to be an atmosphere of paranoid fear if regular MAGAs are saying regular MAGA stuff about Jewish homosexuals trying to convert children through poisoning their environments or whatever as well as left-wing people talking about like regular left-wing stuff like abolishing the police and prisons making people who don't want to get mugged nervous. That's life. Eh. That's life.
You shouldn't hate somebody for having a Nazi armband as an extreme-right activist or for buying plus selling child pornography as an extreme-left activist, like either side. Hatred doesn't work. You've just got to accept that people are people, America is American, the 2020s are the 2020s, and that's that.
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>>1194517>You shouldn't hate somebody for buying plus selling child pornography What you do then?
Buy them a beer and congratulate them on their exquisite business acumen?
Are you buying and selling child pornography, Pseudofox?
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>>1194511I would suggest it's because every time I present remarkably mild political takes you flip out.
I would wager that happens to Boat, too.
You have a bad habit of conflating incredibly mild conservatism to neonazi absurdity.
You and a few others, to be quite fair, but none the less.
No.1194521
>>1194519You accept the fact that other people have different political opinions than yours. As has been said by countless people here. And you sigh angrily.
"Forget it, Jake, it's Chinatown."
Politics are politics. That's life. Yeah. That's life. Politics are politics.
Also, PP, don't you live in America yourself? I might be recalling wrong. Even if you don't live in America though, I mean... haven't you heard about life in America?
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>>1194517>Or for buying plus selling child pornography . Gonna be real, man, even I will say they belong in a woodchipper, and I'm a pretty die hard individualist type.
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>>1194521There's vdefinitely people that I'm gonna hate with pâssion.
And I think that option would be available for anyone.
I'm not an internet badass and I won't claim I myself will beat anyone to death. But I'd definitely wish horrible things on some sorts of people.
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>>1194521Buying and selling CP isn't even a political opinion.
Should be no qualms about calling out such a disgusting act.
If you struggle to do so, frankly, I think your moral compass is fucked.
No.1194526
>>1194524>>1194525Well, yeah, I'd like to hate those people, and honestly I just do passionately hate them anyways, but they've got a different political opinion than mine, and the rules are what the rules are: everybody is expected to respect everybody else's political stance.
I wish so fucking badly that I lived in a time and place as well as a broader context in which things weren't like this. But they're like this. 2020s American politics are 2020s American politics. People are what they are. That's that.
Some people wear Nazi armbands. Some people buy and sell child pornography. Some people grope others in public if they think that they can 'get away with it'. And so on.
That's the hand that God has given me, you, and the rest of us. I may hate this hand. But it's what's gotten dealt. That's that.
Politics are politics. People have their own politics. That's life. Politics are politics.
I mean, yeah, I wish so fucking badly that we could have a woke / SWJ / libtard / etc world in which everybody is required to not be evil to each other. And we just dumped every other belief system into a metaphysical trash can. I don't know... though... like... that's not what's in the cards right now. It's just not.
As the saying goes, "I don't make the rules."
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>>1194526Again;
Buying and selling CP is not a political opinion.
This is an action.
How on earth are you so incapable of discerning the difference?
No.1194528
>>1194527You're not making any sense. It's a political action. It's people doing something based on their own social and ethical as well as religious and ideological values. It's their action. Their political action.
I hate their politics. I do. But I don't know if I can say that we should just abandon the rule of "respecting all political stances".
A protester beating up a police officer would also be a political action. So would burning down a certain building of some nature that's political: a courthouse, a station for local cops, an arms industry related factory, and so on. If there was a draft right now, then trashing draft cards would be a political action. And so on. Showing up at LGBT social events with AR-15s trying to force individuals to leave it is also a political action. It goes on.
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>>1194528> It's a political actionEven if we assume that's the case, it's still an ACTION and not an OPINION.
They are two, radically different things.
And that's leaving in this absurd assumption that Buying and selling child pornography is somehow some kind of form of political activism aside, which is obviously also an issue here.
No.1194531
>>1194530Yes. And such extremist actions are normal. At least, these days.
I don't really understand why the guy buying and selling child pornography is to be considered any different than the guy who does a mass shooting at an LGBT community center or the dudes who both advocate for that to happen beforehand as well as express support later.
Or like anything else from burning police cars to like wrecking churches or like like groping victims without their consent or like any other kind of extreme behavior in 2020s era America that's a matter of normal people with normal politics, with physical harm being done to somebody due to political justifications.
No.1194532
Like if I'm not allowed to refuse sexual consent, and multiple others who's friends and family aren't allowed to refuse sexual consent either, and we're just required to basically "take it" because we've been "asking for it"... what exactly is the difference here?
We're still talking about sexual assaults and direct, physical harm. Why is taking pictures and/or making videos of such a thing somehow worse than doing the actual thing? Or one is not allowed while the other is?
And how, for political reasons, things are judged as alright or such by broader society, culture, the law, et cetera. Right?
So like, what's happening? Why is being a SJW, being woke, being a libtard, and so on suddenly the right thing here? What's going on?
No.1194533
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>>1194531It's a normal matter, and nobody gives a shit if you condemn the people responsible for such things, because they're quite obviously committing reprehensible acts.
Pretending like these things are in any way, shape, or form comparable to fucking OPINIONS though is just genuinely insane.
>>1194532Bro what the fuck are you talking about.
I'd be shocked if even rapists don't think rape is wrong.
No.1194534
>>1194533You're not making any sense at all. Jesus Christ. I'm starting to actually get angry.
We're talking about Americans deciding to commit direct physical harm against others due to political justifications or by just wanting to do it for some other reason and then pulling the politics card as justification.
This is an 'on' or 'off' switch.
If it's morally acceptable for you to burn my car, shoot at my apartment window, coat my church's outside with bombs, and other things like that due to your politics (whether or left-wing or right-wing), then I don't see any logical distinction between you sexually assaulting me without filming that or you sexually assaulting me while filming it versus alternate stuff in which you're trying to kill me, molest me, wound me, put me into a coma, and so on. I also don't get why sexual assaulting me and not filming it would be maybe "not that bad at all" while doing that and filming it would suddenly them cross into being "very bad". Is not the fundamental victimization the same?
If it's not acceptable, then it's not. Again, this is an 'on' or 'off' switch. You pick one.
If you're going to be okay with people being physically harmed due to political justifications, then that very, very obviously applies to not just child pornography but also anything else having to do with American politics in terms of that. And it goes back the other way. This is really simple.
I don't get why you can't understand this.
POLITICAL OPINIONS are not POLITICAL ACTIONS. And POLITICAL ACTIONS involves quite a lot of horrifying things. If you want to be a Stalinist-ish woke leftard censor who condemns a lot of POLITICAL ACTIONS due to them morally offending you totally, then that's very, very understandable and probably alright. But then you should be able to make sense.
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>>1194534Why on earth would you be getting angry?
How are you even confused here?
OPINIONS and ACTIONS are two different things.
Do I need to post the definitions?
Everyone agrees that horrible evil shit is horrible and evil. That's not what was being brought up here.
You claimed Buying and selling child pornography was just a political opinion, so you can't hatethe guy who does it. This is a absurd.
No.1194539
>>1194535I'm not sure how to explain it any better.
1. If "politics" is an acceptable justification to cause physical harm to somebody else through kidnapping, arson, molestation, et cetera...
2. If violence against children is a form of this physical harm...
3. And if politics is hoisted up as a flag to justify that...
4. Then you're stuck.
If you believe that your OPINIONS justify your ACTIONS, then that means that you're either being true or false, correct or incorrect.
You can say that the ACTIONS are false. You can also not do that.
What're you missing here?
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>>1194500Some people would argue that he fence sits and is a bit too much of a door mat, but to be honest I think the world could do with more people like the dude.
He is a bit of a doormat though. I need to text him again soon.
No.1194541
>>1194535>>1194539I absolute do, emotionally, hate people who molest children, who bomb churches, who film and distribute material of children as victims, who destroy cars, who shoot into homes, and so on. I do. I really do.
I also understand that I'm a Unitarian Universalist and Quaker spiritualist as well as a center-left to center Democratic Party voter and that my hatred of all that is a result of me coming at things from that personal ethical standpoint.
Were I one of the MAGAs, or a revolutionary communist, or an Islamic fundamentalist, or one of many other political opinions otherwise, I'd not have that moral stance expressed as a political stance.
I'm trying to grow and develop as a person, as I get older, and also I'm aware that I live in a nation that's becoming more and more tolerant of violent extremism by the day, so I'm trying my absolute best to be tolerant here.
Me being pluralistic of other people's religions, politics, ideologies, and so on through tolerance is a pretty big ask when it comes to child pornography and other things related to that, but I'm trying. I'm trying not to be a standard close-minded 'leftist' or whatever. I'm trying to not just wallow in anger. Trying. Not succeeding, though.
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>>1194539What I'm missing is where OPINIONS and ACTIONS are one in the same
They aren't.
End of fucking story.
You're right that opinions can be used to JUSTIFY heinous actions, but that doesn't make the opinions the ACTIONS themselves.
No wonder you flip out and go full schizo on a regular basis...
No.1194543
>>1194511 Here's the thing. You could just not talk about politics. But you can't fucking help yourself. And you don't even have the common decency to not insult the people you disagree with. You are physically incapable of saying "I disagree with this position" without including "and everyone supports it is an awful person." And yet you act shocked whenever someone responds in kind. If you and the others here keep dishing it out, I'm going to keep shoveling it right back into your face. Go back to your hole. There's a reason I don't talk to you.
>>1194517 What the fuck did I just read...
No.1194544
>>1194542Can you quit fucking lying? I'm getting really angry here.
I've never pretended that opinions and actions are the same.
YOU HAVE.
What I've been saying, from the beginning, is that I'm trying to be more open-minded and tolerant of people who's political actions are different than mine.
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>>1194541Buddy, I voted for Trump three times. I will likely vote for him again in a few years.
I am still perfectly capable of distinguishing immoral acts separate from political opinion.
Don't try to use your political leaning as a shield for this one.
No.1194546
>>1194545Okay, seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?
I don't think that actions and opinions are the same.
I've never said that.
I've never thought that.
Your lying is really pissing me off a lot.
What I've been saying, for the umpteenth time, is that I'm trying to be more open-minded and tolerant of people who's political actions are different than mine.
This includes MAGA, the extreme far-left of revolutionary type views, Islamic fundamentalists, and others, all of which express arguments about child pornography that I find horrible.
I'm trying my best not to be a woke / libtard / SWJ / etc. I'm trying to condemn what they're doing and saying without going totally crazy. To argue against them without just wallowing in hateful swills of raw emotion that don't help anything.
Alright? Can you admit this?
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>>1194544I have never once at any point in my entire life suggested that opinions and actions are the same thing.You literal psychotic nut job.
But I'm happy to play your little game and point you to
>>1194521 where you responded to
>>1194519 questioning you on "buying plus selling child pornography"
To which you said;
>"You accept the fact that other people have different political opinions than yours." No.1194553
>>1194552Jesus fucking Christ, dude, like what even do you want out of this conversation? I don't even begin to understand what's your problem... what is it?
I can keep saying what I'm saying, and you can just keep screaming out nonsensical comments that have nothing to do with anything, especially when it comes to refusing to even begin to consider what I'm saying.
Like, for fuck's sake, I'm not even sure if we disagree about this issue. You're just being angry. Again. Like you always are. Because you enjoy being angry.
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>>1194547>that talks about his love for lolicon or whatever the fuck it's called now gets fed into a woodchipper.Oh, and now here, too. You're once again conflating opinion to action. As though just talking about 2D anime women is the same as actually buying and selling real world child pornography.
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>>1194553My problem is you're conflating OPINION with ACTION.
You're acting as though they have the same moral weight.
As though having an opinion about something is the same as someone who, literally as you gave it as an example, commits rape.
I really don't think I could make this any clearer.
No.1194556
>>1194554>>1194555To be really, brutally honest: can't you MAGAs just shut the hell up about even talking about child pornography and drawn / simulated / generated things of children being sexualized even? Like in the first place?
Why did you want to have this political debate in the first place? Even if I'm assuming that you're right. Why is this "your thing"? Why is this required to be "a thing that we must debate about now"?
Jesus fucking Christ, this is a cartoon horses related website, I wish I could talk about something that's not kids being fucked
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>>1194517>The exact same family member angry as all hell about being sexually harassed will confess at looking at lewd things of cartoon characters online.I don't think being sexually harassed and looking at some Rule 34 hentai are even remotely the same thing.
>Like, in terms of Ponyville.us itself, I wouldn't particularly like Stalinist monitoring of every single comment and an atmosphere of paranoid fearNHH
>You shouldn't hate somebody for having a Nazi armband as an extreme-right activist or for buying plus selling child pornography as an extreme-left activistMy brother in Christ, you don't have to hate either in the same way that Jesus taught you should love thy enemy and show sympathy for the sick, but I hope you understand that anyone who is peddling CP needs to be punished. One is a statement to far right extremist ideals and the other is a criminal offense for the sexual exploitation of children.
>>1194521You didn't say political opinion or advocation for legalization of such like with those NAMBLA groups.
For someone who hates sexual exploitation you sure are saying some sus shit.
No.1194559
>>1194554>>1194555And, for the record, you're completely wrong. Again.
I've screamed from the rooftops that opinions aren't actions. And actions aren't opinions. I'm talking about actions. Political actions.
I naturally hate people who do certain political actions. I'm trying to improve myself. And it's complicated. That's that.
I can keep fucking saying this for a thousand points, and you're going to keep fucking not listening, though. So, well, what's the point?
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>>1194535"I murder people, but don't hate me because it's my political opinion. Man, don't you hate politics? This is a pony website for Pete's sake!"
No.1194561
>>1194557For fuck's sake, Nonny, creepy rapist-sounding men like you (yes, literally, you) are literally what I'm talking about here
In terms of me being afraid
And me trying not to be afraid
Also, holy fuck, for YOU to call somebody else "sus", especially the mentally and physically broken abuse victim here, is rather amazing
I'm trying my absolute best not to live my life afraid of creepy sexual assaulting dudes such as you, and it's a big struggle, but I think I'm getting there, over time
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>>1194559Then by all means explain to me why when Pinkie questioned you on "You shouldn't hate somebody for buying plus selling child pornography" you responded with "You accept the fact that other people have different political opinions than yours."
Was it just pure non sequitur? Did you just have a schizo moment where you started talking to yourself, replying with something totally disjointed?
If it's just your own lack of mental facilities, I'm happy to accept that, but let's not act as though you never said it.
No.1194564
>>1194557>>1194560Bro... I'm trying really hard, like I keep saying, to express some kindness and tolerance to MAGAs who're involved with terrible things in terms of sexual abuse... like...
I'm really, seriously trying. To "see the other side". To get you guys. To give you decent respect. To be charitable.
Like... I don't even know, anymore?
Is it apparently that you guys are somehow conviced that me as an anti-MAGA trying to understand MAGA views on CP and related stuff... like somehow that makes me pro-abuse? Or what?
What the fuck kind of dance are you dancing here?
No.1194565
>>1194563??????
Read the actual post. The entire post.
I said: "You accept the fact that other people have different political opinions than yours." And I also referred to a famous film about literal criminals that engage in murder. And I discussed the distinction between having views and accepting what you can and can't do about actions.
Also, like, holy fuck, how long are you (YOU, of all people) going to keep pushing this weird psychological projection where like if other people point out your mental illnesses than somehow it's them that has a problem, through "lack of mental facilities" or something?
What even is the point, anyways?
No.1194567
>>1194564Here's a real simple solution for you;
Don't try and conflate political opinions to heinous actions.
You'll get a far more mild response if you restrain yourself.
No.1194568
>>1194567POLITICAL ACTIONS and POLITICAL OPINIONS are not the same thing.
I don't understand why it's so fucking hard for you guys to understand that distinction.
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>>1194565>Read the actual post. The entire post.I did.
It continues on taking about opinion.
Not action.
>What even is the point, anyways?I have strong disagreements with the idea of conflating opinion with morality, to begin with, leaving aside conflating it with actions.
Though that's just the start.
The reason I persist is that I've a personal distaste for liars and cowards unwilling to stand by what they said or at least admit their mistakes.
>>1194568I agree.
Yet you are the one who conflated buying and selling child pornography to a political opinion, stating explicitly "You accept the fact that other people have different political opinions than yours."
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>>1194569I am not sure there is an amount of alcohol that could make me understand this perspective.
It was certainly an especially wild one.
And now Nonny's apparently a rapist, too, according to this guy.
It's hard to keep track of.
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Okay, like, this is enough.
Moony, can you seriously stop this?
I've more than had enough of having to talk about child sexual abuse. Jesus Christ.
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>>1194517>The exact same family member angry as all hell about being sexually harassed will confess at looking at lewd things of cartoon characters online. Nonny was right, by the way, to point out that this is an absurd comparison.
There's nothing wrong with looking at some drawings.
Lewd or not, it makes no difference.
Linking that to sexual harassment is just genuinely insane.
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>>1194572You're the one who brought it up, dude.
Don't bring it up if you don't want it talked about.
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>>1194561>RapistI prefer my men and women to feel comfortable and consenting. It's so much hotter when someone desires you. In turn it makes me desire them. It's that spark between two people realizing that they want, no,
need one another for the night that really gets me going.
Your projection is rather amusing though.
>>1194564I don't care if you're in support of MAGA or against it. At this point in my life I actually do not care for the MAGA movement one way or another.
My issue is that you're comparing selling and buying CP to wearing a piece of cloth. One is a political statement and the other is a crime that has an actual human victim. Would you also compare wearing a hammer and sickle to buying, selling, and otherwise funding redroom style snuff films? I'd hope not.
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Also the comparison of real life crimes compared to simple pornography is ridiculous. On a somewhat intersecting topic, it's like comparing real life violence to violent video games, hyper violent movies, manga, anime, and other forms of media.
Human beings naturally are extremely violent, sexually curious, deprived, and degenerative creatures by nature. Look at history. Violence, sex crimes, and other terrible acts litter our written history alone.
Taking that more ugly side of human nature and exploring it through art, expression, and opinion is not the same as going out and acting upon those curiosities and desires.
I am not a daemonette by the way.
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>>1194571>And now Nonny's apparently a rapist, too, according to this guy.Ara ara ~ NHH!
No.1194585
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Ode to fox:
Man, these people project ideas on me
Then they close the sense right out
I got so much anger in me, got MAGA to take it out
Think I'm making a great risk
Moony can you stop all this?
Yes, I’m a bitch, I like when there's people I can dismiss
The shit that I'm posting on /Pony/—
They telling me “Fox, don’t say that”
How nonnies can't see me in public?
I’m postin a textwall send-back
With all of the butthole pain
I still can’t get my brain back
With all of the asshurt, I've got no brain
There's nothing wrong with hurting children
Ponies see an armband
But don’t see how I be feeling
So I became a dumbass
Yeah, bitch, I’m the villian
...Pedo heil Nambla! Pedo heil Nambla!
They don't understand the things I say on pony.. Pedo heil Nambla!
They don't understand the things I say on pony. Selling CP is statement, pedo heil Nambla
No.1194587
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>>1194578Sorry blood.
>>1194568You're right. They aren't.
Reread your post here.
>>1194557>You shouldn't hate somebody for having a Nazi armband as an extreme-right activist Reasonable. A nazi armband is a political statement. Wearing it on your arm is an action that portrays an affilation or message to the rest of the world.
>for buying plus selling child pornography as an extreme-left activistBuying is an action. Selling is an action. Buying and selling/buying or selling child pornography is an action that is illegal as fuck.
Some might have multiple reasons that include some political statement, but at the end of the day, if you're buying and/or selling CP, then you are commiting a felony and should be subjected to the law for your actions.
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>>1194577It is a tragically misunderstood thing. As though one cannot have a desire to explore things in a safe manner.
I think folk forget that humans are rather wild creatures. We once battled constantly with physical force for a wide range of causes. All of us have a want for adventure, to grasp by our own hands the means to build something new from nothing, to face off impossible odds and come out on top.
What better place to explore such wants than a game?
Sexual wants are much the same, though oft much more personal and much more exploratory.
Perhaps some find themselves set in a root, but, I always enjoyed the games like Corruption of Champions just for the aspect of seeing something I never considered before, how it clicks to me, potentially poking a desire I never thought of prior, never realized was missing. I can explore such things in a safe manner, and I fail to see how it's anyone else's business. I certainly am harming no one but myself.
Alas, puritans like Fox see such things as though they're joined at the hip to the most heinous of acts.
As though because I watch a cartoon depicting various lewd acts, I'd think nothing of assaulting a woman.
A tragically common verse.
No.1194599
>>1194520Boat does that with damn near everyone who disagrees with him here. I think the biggest example his reaction to me complaining about mint horse being racist in a thread I made, not on /townhall/, but on /pony/ about a trip I took back home to San Antonio. Accusing me of simply not agreeing with his politics.
But of course, it's always the same damn issue with you too, dodging the subject I'm
actually talking about at any point. Like your hypocritical double standard of making broad sweeping character attacks against political opposition and getting real fucking pissy about people here doing the same thing about your political ingroups, like you can't take what you dish out. You like to pretend your the kid pointing out the emporer has no clothes while being completely oblivious to your own nudity.
And no, mint-horse being racist about San Antonio in a thread more about sharing photos isn't a 'mild political opinion' it's just bigotry.
Also, you still put words in my mouth acting like being humble is the same thing as grovelling apologetically. I flip out not to your political opinions, I flip out cause you and others on /townhall/ are completely fucking disengenuous when ever I post an opinion, even when I'm giving no indication of who I am.
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>>1194599I would suggest it's because you're usually pretty quick to throw around such accusations.
Ever heard of the Boy who Cried Wolf?
>dodging the subject I'm actually talking about at any pointAs I explained in the /canterlot/ thread you brought up despite being four years old;
It's pretty common for folk to take issue with a part of an argument and not the whole thing.
I'm not going to hold my tongue when you say something I disagree with, just because I might well agree with the main point, or at the very least don't care about it.
I don't think this is wrong.
>Like your hypocritical double standard of making broad sweeping character attacks against political oppositionFunny, I try my best to avoid that, unless someone's doing it in turn.
Of course, if they're going to do so, an eye for an eye is hardly unfair.
>while being completely oblivious to your own nudity. A kobold is in their best state nude, dearie.
I'm happy to discard my own, when that's said to be the standard. I've no problem stripping down and wrestling in the mud once it starts getting flung.
>Also, you still put words in my mouth acting like being humble is the same thing as grovelling apologetically. Never said it was.
Oh, the irony. And you bitch and moan about words in your mouth. How quaint.
>I post an opinion, even when I'm giving no indication of who I am.It's almost like my issue Isn't with you, but rather, with what's being said! The content of your posts rather than your character. Isn't that a good thing?
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I'm glad I've never said anything racist in my entire life.
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>>1194610Same. I'm not racist. I'm specist.
Wyv*rns are trashlizards and are replacing real wyrms in media!
End the dragon replacement! Fuck those armless freaks!
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>>1194612When are people going to realize that Drakes are the ones actually running the media? What do you see when you get to Torchwood? Huge legs and not a wing in sight..
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>>1194614At least we can all agree that knights are the real problem.
50% of all knights assault their princesses. And that's only what's reported!
Really, a wyrm that takes a princess to their lair is just protecting them!
Also free Koboldstine.
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>>1194657>>1194658Important question, and a serious one at that.. Is english their first language?
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>>1194651>>1194644Oh, thank you actually.
I'm pretty sure that was just pipe, but I appreciate that.
No.1194682
>>1194678Ban politics.
Works in 90% of cases.
Technically less I guess, but that's because it either starts or becomes "ban certain kinds of politics".
No.1194684
>>1194683Most of this battle is over politics.
The reason Fox thinks we're some reprehensible evil is certainly stemming from that.
And I'd say the conflict with Andrea, likewise.
No politics avoids all of that.
No.1194709
>>1194702Gambling can be risky yeah.
>>1194707"They AREN'T the ONLY"
