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 No.1190966[View All]

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You know, when i made Ponyville, i dreamt that it would be a place of peace, and harmony... to correct the mistakes of Ponychan such that one day, all of the friends would come back.

Like in the Lorax!

But, instead, in my desire to create a tolerant and hands-off environment, we have created a place where kindness struggles to thrive, and bad faith behavior is everywhere. You know that story, about the nazis, and the nazi bar?

i hate to say it... but we've become a nazi bar, and it is my fault for not taking harsh action and trying to force all of you to love others into being, instead of giving you a safe space to thrive. for allowing weeds masquerading as plants into our garden, forcing so many of you out.

There are trolls constantly raiding that our tools cannot control, and who would love nothing more than to see the site shut down

And the good users, who try their best to tolerate it, just can't handle it anymore.

for those of you who are left... the very few of you who remain... i'd like to hold a referendum.

May i turn on accounts, that require passwords, and vetting?

It might be too little, too late, but better late, than never.

What would you like to see done?
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 No.1194565

>>1194563
??????

Read the actual post. The entire post.

I said: "You accept the fact that other people have different political opinions than yours." And I also referred to a famous film about literal criminals that engage in murder. And I discussed the distinction between having views and accepting what you can and can't do about actions.

Also, like, holy fuck, how long are you (YOU, of all people) going to keep pushing this weird psychological projection where like if other people point out your mental illnesses than somehow it's them that has a problem, through "lack of mental facilities" or something?

What even is the point, anyways?

 No.1194566

>>1194526
>Some people wear Nazi armbands. Some people buy and sell child pornography. Some people grope others in public if they think that they can 'get away with it'. And so on.
Groping people and selling CP are not the same thing as wearing a Nazi armband. Not even close.

 No.1194567

>>1194564
Here's a real simple solution for you;
Don't try and conflate political opinions to heinous actions.
You'll get a far more mild response if you restrain yourself.

 No.1194568

>>1194567
POLITICAL ACTIONS and POLITICAL OPINIONS are not the same thing.

I don't understand why it's so fucking hard for you guys to understand that distinction.

 No.1194569

>>1194567  but didn't you know that supporting an "America First" set of policies means you also support rape or some shit?  That's just how it is!

 No.1194570

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>>1194565
>Read the actual post. The entire post.
I did.
It continues on taking about opinion.
Not action.

>What even is the point, anyways?
I have strong disagreements with the idea of conflating opinion with morality, to begin with, leaving aside conflating it with actions.
Though that's just the start.

The reason I persist is that I've a personal distaste for liars and cowards unwilling to stand by what they said or at least admit their mistakes.

>>1194568
I agree.
Yet you are the one who conflated buying and selling child pornography to a political opinion, stating explicitly "You accept the fact that other people have different political opinions than yours."

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>>1194569
I am not sure there is an amount of alcohol that could make me understand this perspective.
It was certainly an especially wild one.
And now Nonny's apparently a rapist, too, according to this guy.
It's hard to keep track of.

 No.1194572

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Okay, like, this is enough.

Moony, can you seriously stop this?

I've more than had enough of having to talk about child sexual abuse. Jesus Christ.

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>>1194517
>The exact same family member angry as all hell about being sexually harassed will confess at looking at lewd things of cartoon characters online.
Nonny was right, by the way, to point out that this is an absurd comparison.

There's nothing wrong with looking at some drawings.
Lewd or not, it makes no difference.

Linking that to sexual harassment is just genuinely insane.

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>>1194572
You're the one who brought it up, dude.
Don't bring it up if you don't want it talked about.

 No.1194575

>>1194572  You. Brought. It. Up.  :dash3:

 No.1194576

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>>1194561
>Rapist
I prefer my men and women to feel comfortable and consenting. It's so much hotter when someone desires you. In turn it makes me desire them. It's that spark between two people realizing that they want, no, need one another for the night that really gets me going.

Your projection is rather amusing though.
>>1194564
I don't care if you're in support of MAGA or against it. At this point in my life I actually do not care for the MAGA movement one way or another.

My issue is that you're comparing selling and buying CP to wearing a piece of cloth. One is a political statement and the other is a crime that has an actual human victim. Would you also compare wearing a hammer and sickle to buying, selling, and otherwise funding redroom style snuff films? I'd hope not.

 No.1194577

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Also the comparison of real life crimes compared to simple pornography is ridiculous. On a somewhat intersecting topic, it's like comparing real life violence to violent video games, hyper violent movies, manga, anime, and other forms of media.

Human beings naturally are extremely violent, sexually curious, deprived, and degenerative creatures by nature. Look at history. Violence, sex crimes, and other terrible acts litter our written history alone.

Taking that more ugly side of human nature and exploring it through art, expression, and opinion is not the same as going out and acting upon those curiosities and desires.

I am not a daemonette by the way.

 No.1194578

>>1194577
>I am not a daemonette by the way.
You lied to me! :shy4:

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>>1194571
>And now Nonny's apparently a rapist, too, according to this guy.
Ara ara ~ NHH!

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Ode to fox:

Man, these people project ideas on me
Then they close the sense right out
I got so much anger in me, got MAGA to take it out
Think I'm making a great risk
Moony can you stop all this?
Yes, I’m a bitch, I like when there's people I can dismiss
The shit that I'm posting on /Pony/—
They telling me  “Fox, don’t say that”
How nonnies can't see me in public?
I’m postin a textwall send-back
With all of the butthole pain
I still can’t get my brain back
With all of the asshurt, I've got no brain
There's nothing wrong with hurting children
Ponies see an armband
But don’t see how I be feeling
So I became a dumbass
Yeah, bitch, I’m the villian

...Pedo heil Nambla! Pedo heil Nambla!

They don't understand the things I say on pony.. Pedo heil Nambla!

They don't understand the things I say on pony. Selling CP is statement, pedo heil Nambla

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>>1194578
Sorry blood.
>>1194568
You're right. They aren't.
Reread your post here.
>>1194557
>You shouldn't hate somebody for having a Nazi armband as an extreme-right activist
Reasonable. A nazi armband is a political statement. Wearing it on your arm is an action that portrays an affilation or message to the rest of the world.
>for buying plus selling child pornography as an extreme-left activist
Buying is an action. Selling is an action. Buying and selling/buying or selling child pornography is an action  that is illegal as fuck.

Some might have multiple reasons that include some political statement, but at the end of the day, if you're buying and/or selling CP, then you are commiting a felony and should be subjected to the law for your actions.

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>>1194577
It is a tragically misunderstood thing. As though one cannot have a desire to explore things in a safe manner.

I think folk forget that humans are rather wild creatures. We once battled constantly with physical force for a wide range of causes. All of us have a want for adventure, to grasp by our own hands the means to build something new from nothing, to face off impossible odds and come out on top.
What better place to explore such wants than a game?

Sexual wants are much the same, though oft much more personal and much more exploratory.
Perhaps some find themselves set in a root, but, I always enjoyed the games like Corruption of Champions just for the aspect of seeing something I never considered before, how it clicks to me, potentially poking a desire I never thought of prior, never realized was missing. I can explore such things in a safe manner, and I fail to see how it's anyone else's business. I certainly am harming no one but myself.

Alas, puritans like Fox see such things as though they're joined at the hip to the most heinous of acts.
As though because I watch a cartoon depicting various lewd acts, I'd think nothing of assaulting a woman.
A tragically common verse.  

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 No.1194599

>>1194520

Boat does that with damn near everyone who disagrees with him here. I think the biggest example his reaction to me complaining about mint horse being racist in a thread I made, not on /townhall/, but on /pony/ about a trip I took back home to San Antonio. Accusing me of simply not agreeing with his politics.

But of course, it's always the same damn issue with you too, dodging the subject I'm actually talking about at any point. Like your hypocritical double standard of making broad sweeping character attacks against political opposition and getting real fucking pissy about people here doing the same thing about your political ingroups, like you can't take what you dish out. You like to pretend your the kid pointing out the emporer has no clothes while being completely oblivious to your own nudity.

And no, mint-horse being racist about San Antonio in a thread more about sharing photos isn't a 'mild political opinion' it's just bigotry.

Also, you still put words in my mouth acting like being humble is the same thing as grovelling apologetically. I flip out not to your political opinions, I flip out cause you and others on /townhall/ are completely fucking disengenuous when ever I post an opinion, even when I'm giving no indication of who I am.

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>>1194599
I would suggest it's because you're usually pretty quick to throw around such accusations.
Ever heard of the Boy who Cried Wolf?

>dodging the subject I'm actually talking about at any point
As I explained in the /canterlot/ thread you brought up despite being four years old;
It's pretty common for folk to take issue with a part of an argument and not the whole thing.

I'm not going to hold my tongue when you say something I disagree with, just because I might well agree with the main point, or at the very least don't care about it.
I don't think this is wrong.

>Like your hypocritical double standard of making broad sweeping character attacks against political opposition
Funny, I try my best to avoid that, unless someone's doing it in turn.
Of course, if they're going to do so, an eye for an eye is hardly unfair.

>while being completely oblivious to your own nudity.
A kobold is in their best state nude, dearie.

I'm happy to discard my own, when that's said to be the standard. I've no problem stripping down and wrestling in the mud once it starts getting flung.

>Also, you still put words in my mouth acting like being humble is the same thing as grovelling apologetically.
Never said it was.
Oh, the irony. And you bitch and moan about words in your mouth. How quaint.

>I post an opinion, even when I'm giving no indication of who I am.
It's almost like my issue Isn't with you, but rather, with what's being said! The content of your posts rather than your character. Isn't that a good thing?

 No.1194610

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I'm glad I've never said anything racist in my entire life.

 No.1194612

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>>1194610
Same. I'm not racist. I'm specist.
Wyv*rns are trashlizards and are replacing real wyrms in media!
End the dragon replacement! Fuck those armless freaks!

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>>1194612
When are people going to realize that Drakes are the ones actually running the media? What do you see when you get to Torchwood? Huge legs and not a wing in sight..

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>>1194614
At least we can all agree that knights are the real problem.
50% of all knights assault their princesses. And that's only what's reported!
Really, a wyrm that takes a princess to their lair is just protecting them!

Also free Koboldstine.

 No.1194644

>>1194402
The funny thing is I'm the one who reported the other post for sexual harassment even if I reported a bunch of other posts that were breaking the rules that mods apparently aren't brave enough to do anything about. You're welcome?

 No.1194649

>>1194644
>trying to get the mods' attention

 No.1194650

>>1194585  this is a masterpiece by the way

 No.1194651

>>1194649
Oh they did which is why the post sexually harassing Nonny is gone but not the other posts. Which is about what I expected to happen but was worth a try.

 No.1194658

>>1194657
It's a fairly common tale.
Then again he did correlate sexual harassment to looking at cartoon porn, so...

 No.1194660

>>1194650
Thank you, you. You are far too kind

 No.1194661

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>>1194657
>>1194658
Important question, and a serious one at that.. Is english their first language?

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>>1194651
>>1194644
Oh, thank you actually.

I'm pretty sure that was just pipe, but I appreciate that.

 No.1194675

>>1194674
Or perhaps the real issues have simply been brought to light

 No.1194676

>>1194675
Oh they have but nothing is going to be done about them effectively.

 No.1194677

>>1194676
And what would you suggest?

 No.1194678

>>1194677
At this point I'm not sure anything can be realistically done that isn't just damage control. I more or less just chalk it up to the ponychan curse now. The problem is probably very complicated now and would probably result in numerous bans or much harsher and proactive enforcement of the rules and new rules that would piss everyone off and make the site deader. It's not just one political side either, that's a mistake and something I mostly suggested because it was the topic of this thread. I see why the staff refuse to enforce the rules except in specific cases this would be like herding cats and they want to delay the site's probably inevitable shutdown or 1-4 posts a day. If you want a suggestion though actually enforce the rules more anyway and create new ones so incidents like in this thread don't happen again where necessary and hope for the best instead of ignoring blatant offenses. I've seen it said that the spirit of the rules are what matter but I don't see how that's the case when you're just directly allowing slurs and insults back and forth to fly. You can't claim to even be a place about "peace", "harmony", and "tolerance" when numerous users will be at each other's throats many times over and that's just allowed to happen over and over most of the time. Or when people are talking about insanely controversial topics or posting insanely controversial things that are bound to provoke a strong reaction or talking about who does or doesn't deserve a brutal death and so on. All off topic in a thread about fixing the site mind you. Accounts won't fix this because as you can see some of the problems exist with already established users. More users as janitors won't solve it either because most users don't know what to do about these situations either. Getting rid of townhall won't because look at the state of this thread.

 No.1194682

>>1194678
Ban politics.
Works in 90% of cases.
Technically less I guess, but that's because it either starts or becomes "ban certain kinds of politics".

 No.1194683

>>1194682
It's not JUST politics even in this thread is the problem with that (or I guess it might be depending on what you view as politics inherently). That's a big part of it though. But the other problem is that's already more or less the case on /pony/ but here we are anyway.

 No.1194684

>>1194683
Most of this battle is over politics.
The reason Fox thinks we're some reprehensible evil is certainly stemming from that.
And I'd say the conflict with Andrea, likewise.

No politics avoids all of that.

 No.1194685

>>1194684
They definitely aren't the only ones but whatever.

 No.1194694

>>1194684
Doesn't help that with such topics people like Andrea and Fox come swinging and blatantly ignore rules, calling people asshats and what not. Enforcing the rules on insults would help

 No.1194695

>>1194694
They aren't the only ones insulting people. It's amazing how openly biased everyone is on this site.

 No.1194697

>>1194678

I had a response, but in the end you're probably right.  I kinda sat here watching all this unfold for days while hoping it would resolve itself in some manner, but it probably hasn't resolved at all, even now that it's over.  Terrified of taking action, but my hope that inaction will fix anything is probably also misplaced.

 No.1194698

>>1194697
If I did anything feel free to act against me as well it's better than nothing.

 No.1194701

>>1194698

There's a significant chance that I won't even be able to tell who you are because without looking I am willing to bet your IP was not static throughout the thread.

 No.1194702

>>1194701

Well I lost that bet immediately.  That's why I don't gamble.

 No.1194707

>>1194695
Do I really have to go back and pull up examples again? It isn't bias. It is simply a fact.

 No.1194709

>>1194702
Gambling can be risky yeah.
>>1194707
"They AREN'T the ONLY"

 No.1194710

I'm gonna go ahead and lock the thread before anything gets any worse.  I'll refrain from further bans for now, but everyone just don't do that again?  Without naming names, there are reasons people might not want to be cordial when this stuff starts happening, but that is a requirement of the site, and I will (attempt) to enforce this more strictly going forward.


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