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Why doesn't Ponyville.us give me any cookies?  Ponychan gives me 10 cookies!                                                                                 
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I've never even seen okra in person, I just know that it is evil. It's one of those instinctive things, you can tell at a glance that Satan is real and he made okra.




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When you're writing a post in the Quick Reply box, and you scroll up to the top of the page, the text from the Quick Reply box gets transferred to the Comment box at the top, but the image file doesn't.  If you then click the Post button at the top of the page, the image file doesn't get uploaded.  I think the image file should get transferred from the Quick Reply box alongside the text.
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For the next week or two I am putting in 12 hour days at work, so no code for you.


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>I am putting in 12 hour days at work
Oy vey, that's horrible!  Reminds me of crunch time in grad school before a conference deadline.  And those deadlines were often like 5:00 AM local time, and sometimes I was working literally minutes before the deadline.  Unpleasant.


Yeah, it's total shit. It is not usually this bad, but I always have one such project like this per year where I burn the candle from both ends and probably trim some years off the tail end of my life from stress.

On the bright side it can be nice to work when nobody else is in the office. Take my shoes off, turn the thermostat down, take mobile game and internet breaks liberally, sing loudly and stomp my feet. It's too bad there is ever anyone else in the office to begin with!


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Moony you promised Manley and myself a solid one-week ban if we squabbled again after the 12 hour ban.

In the Avengers movie thread he gaybashed me remorselessly for commenting that my gf and i both found a character to be hot in the middle of my post, told me to take the gay elsewhere n got into a long repetitive creepy obsession about how my gay makes him uncomfortable.  He also claims he's fine with gay "because he has gay friends" but then admits he finds my gay uncomfortable because he's been hit on by a gay person once and because he feels that was an attempt to "convert him to gay".  Which to me says that he's uncomfortable with me because, i guess he feels i want to have sex with him?!  Its disgustingly offensive to me and while i took several multiple-hour long breaks each time i looked back in i found the discussion going on and on with my name being discussed constantly.

I lost my cool a bit and reacted, yes.  I also had a really dark deconstructive mood that significantly negatively impacted me irl.

Zeke rightly called us both on squabbling like children.  It's an experience that brought me back to the worst moments of my childhood, and manley stated that he did nothing wrong.

My favorite tidbit is that he's tried not to talk to me but i won't stop, when in fact my original reply was to ukp and not even to Manley at all.  He contacted me first to tell me to take my "gay" elsewhere such as seeking naked pics of the character's actor (eew).  Unless perhaps i'm not allowed to discuss the op with other posters just because he started the thread, but thats not the way it's supposed to work.

Theres a lot of talk about the manley problem and the difficulty in knowing what to do about it but this makes no sense to me.  He's a chronic breaker of the basic rules and ignores all mod input that he's doing so.  Hes being rewarded by getting away with this time after time after time so it's no wonder this problem won't go away.

Lack of proper response to his violation of the rules is not only allowing disruption to this site and the wellbeing of its members, it is directly hurting Manley in real life by conditioning bad behavior that could harm his rl relationships or even get him beat up or killed.

My behavior was not golden either.
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I'm odd like that.

Has my ban expired?  I never got the block notice and I am not sure exactly when the prescribed one-week ban was applied.  I don't see Manley posting yet so I don't know if it's ok for me to post again or not.

please some mod let me know, thanks.

It was a looong week; I want to come home now pls.


Yeah, you are fine. Your ban expired on Sunday.

Whatever IP you are posting on now was never even banned. It was some other IP, maybe a wifi your phone was connected to? So, don't be surprised if you see the ban message whenever you try to post from that location. It'll say the ban already expired and you'll be clear to post.


Its always this fone (on its own network) or my computer at work.  I guess my fone switches ip at will.

Thanks for always being so kind to me, Thorax.


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Can you please add a feature to filter out users based on name?  (I'm repeating Lost Pony's request in this thread: http://ponyville.us/pony/res/740180.html#740554)

This can be accomplished by executing some code (like the following snippet) on pageload and on thread auto-update.  (Oh, and some UI would be nice, but not essential, since people can just manually set localStorage.filtered_usernames at the debug console.)

if ((localStorage.filtered_usernames || "").trim()) {
 var filtered_user_regex = RegExp(localStorage.filtered_usernames);
 $(".name").filter(function(i,e) {
   return filtered_user_regex.test(e.textContent);
 }).closest("div.reply").css("display", "none");
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> don't use careless wording that can reasonably be interpreted as implying something offensive to reasonable people
A lot can be interpreted as offensive by "reasonable" people
Like "if I were gay, I wouldn't be a virgin"


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Hence the qualifier "careless".  I'm not expecting people to proactively consider what can be interpreted as offensive, but rather simply to take into account past feedback from mods and fellow users about what can easily be interpreted as offensive.


I wonder, if someone shat in one of the rooms of your house, would you just pretend the shit and the shitter wasn't there? No, you'd get that shit cleaned and do something punitive to the shitter. Of course as you've said, the moderation here has historically ignored the shitter (although to inject a bit of nuance, they have believed it wasn't shit but maybe something less offensive such as tracking in mud from outside) but shuffling it under the rug and pretending that nobody is shitting in your house is just a slightly less bad solution than ignoring it.

To set something straight, I am not saying that ponymotes is going to make everyone nice to each other and all the negativity is going to go away. All I meant by it being a positive is that the users that like it get something fun out of it and the users such as yourself, tracer, and I can either hide it through the options menu or just ignore it. That is a net benefit to the site. Also, don't make a habit of talking about me in the third person (in the same thread I'm posting no less) when you are gonna talk shit about me or the work I do. You can say it to me directly, thanks.

As for blocking people being a negative? Yes, it undoubtedly is. Everyone here has something of value to be said and shared and we are going to be less if we cut all ties with the people we have an issue with. Through better moderation (and yes, I understand your issues with the moderation. I am in near complete agreement. But I'd rather fix the moderation issue directly instead of code the users a way to bypass the problems with the moderation), we can address the negativity without having to go as far as wiping each other off the site. To make my point, Manley has said some stupid shit about trans and gay people, would you have been better off if you decided to just hide his existence the moment he said a stupid thing? I'm guessing not.

And that leads into my next point, that just because I am against filtering users doesn't mean I think nothing should be done. We need stricter enforcement of the rules we have and more specific rules for when someone is not exactly 'rude' or 'unkind' but is still causing people to be upset. That is where Manley falls right now and we need to come up with a concrete rule to address it. I am trying to push that idea witPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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So is that a no on the flags then?

I'd hate to see Starshine's work go to waste.
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That's all im asking. Thank you.


Well gosh, I was the one who put all of the effort into implementing them in the codebase, don't I get some say in the matter?


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Um, do you realize you're bumping month-old thread?


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I suggest that the "report" button should require a non-empty string for the "reason" field.  I just accidentally the report button when I intended to hit the "edit" button.




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What happens if you click "ImgOops" (to the left of "Exit Google")?


You could try clicking it and finding out, no?


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What happened to the "political drama" rule?  I don't see it linked anywhere on the Rules page.


I don't think it is a separate rule per se, just a means of interpreting unknown intentions and how to apply the existing rules to people posting threads that might get all drama-y (even when no clear rules are violated). If you are looking for the deets, it's archived here >>>/arch/1826


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Oh.  Well perhaps it should be linked from teh Rules page.  It's kinda important information to have for someone who wants to avoid violating teh rules.

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Toybox!HarMoNytmI 06/28/17 (Wed) 15:13:59 No.525015>>525016>>525042
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Unfortunately the reason he was permabanned was a sad one.

He was actually trying to be sympathetic at the time but because of the way his emotional state is, it caused him to be defensive after he fumbled his attempt at compassion.

Essentially what happened was that Sherlock was having issues with his transition due to setbacks. I commented on it, because I can relate to those problems.

Steam responded to me and his INTENTION was to say "Yeah, it's rough when people don't understand you, I've had similar issues because of my disability." But it came out as him saying that his situation was just as rough as what Sherlock was going through, making it seem like he was trivializing the situation.

Obviously, people got upset at this so he responded by saying, 'I knew you guys would give me shit which is why I spoke to Toybox instead.' this of course didn't help matters at allbecause now it looked like he was kicking Sherlock when he was down.

To compound matters Steam only has a vague idea what transexualism is, and his only encounter with it was me. So it would not surprise me at all if he assumed all transsexuals were MtF. So in an attempt to be 'helpful' he 'corrected' someone that called Sherlock a man, probably not understanding that Sherlock is trying to transition from female to male instead of the other way around. Because of this, it looked like he was insulting Sherlock even more. By this point everybody was raging at Steam and from his point of view all he was trying to do was be sympathetic, so now he's angry because from his perspective 'he didn't do anything wrong'.

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>i don't want Steam Twist to have to suffer unnecessarily, either. but i do not know how to bring him back in, without trouble unfolding, or him feeling hurt when other users do not understand how he thinks or acts.

I don't think there is actually that much of a misunderstanding about how or why he thinks or acts the way that he does. Sure some people will just chalk it up to autism, but I think plenty of us realize that his problem is simply that he doesn't want to accept the things he could do that actually would let him come back, sometimes outright stating that he wont do what others suggest.  


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Steam, I had not seen you in a while.

How are ya doing, boy?


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Thread locked on request


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I made these guys for Ponychan, and figured they could be fun to have here too!
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fine, i will talk to you in private.


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i apologize for coming off a little too rough.


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Mikie and i had a nice long talk together... it was productive, and i think a old tensions have been worked through, at long last c:

Now, that said... due to how off course the thread has gotten, i've been asked to lock it, and i think it will be for the best, for the time being.

Starshine, i hope we too can talk in private sometime! Sorry for locking your thread - for the record, i love your idea, and your art.


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>Discussing the political situation in Haiti is an acceptable subject of conversation. Involving "average IQ" of Haitians and referencing the "sh*thole" controversy, however, is bound to cause an effect of goading or baiting.
Why would discussing the average IQ of Haitians have the effect of baiting?  It seems to me that it would be very relevant to the discussion.  In fact, I'd go so far as to say that a discussion of Haiti's problems would be majorly incomplete without it.  
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The subject of whether genetically modified food is safe or not is not comparable in controversy to the political situation in the so-called "sh*thole" Haiti, relative to the alleged average IQ of its populace.

Note the example provided in the Proposition Document, as to the difference between what is political drama, and what is not.

Politically Dramatic content is content which presents a weighted political perspective that contains a controversial or inflammatory perspective, such that it will have the effect of goading users into participating in a toxic posting environment.

Thus, when you look at your Genetically Modified Food OP, ask yourself a few simple questions:

Am I about to make a political thread?

Is that political thread weighted with political perspectives that skew heavily to one side of an argument?

Would that discussion topic itself generally be considered a controversial topic to discuss as to the reasonable, general public?
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If it is not out of line to comment on the subject of the thread being discussed, I found it illuminating when I checked and confirmed that not only is the OP's stated IQ actually what is considered correct, but that the world's impoverished areas have similarly deficient intelligence.  While I suspect that the test itself may be biased in some way to arrive at those results, I find it at least probable that the deficiency in the numbers has to do with nutrition and education and I am absolutely astounded at just how drastic the end result actually is.

I find that to be most eye-opening and while I agree that dismissing Haiti as a "shithole" may be inflammatory, the picture in the OP definitely presents a strong example that such a statement might be accurate.

What a messed up place to be born into, and if discussion can be civilized and in some way improve awareness that we ponies may be able to convert into some kind of social change for such people, I think it could be worth the cost of discussion and I encourage the OP to consider carefully what has been stated by staff and perhaps try again with a more carefully crafted attempt, perhaps expanding the topic to the rest of the world too and perhaps some kind of information on what sort of action we might participate in that can actually help the situation, such that we might better understand what even can be done and how.

It's just awful and I think such topics presented from a perspective of philanthropy benefits us all.

Then again, it's not my place to tell people what to do so I might take a whack at it myself and see if I can stay out of trouble while doing so.


The way it was worded seems rather close to the way people on less scrupulous parts of the internet segue into suggestions that the population should be "cleansed" in some fashion. I don't think bringing IQ into the discussion is the problem intrinsically (barring its debatable veracity as a means of measuring intelligence), but it's a topic that is somewhat taboo for good reason -- 95 times out of 100, it's used "for evil", for lack of a better way of putting it.

That's not to say it can't be discussed constructively -- lostpony's thread is a good example.


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Hi i was attempting to send a pony friend some links to pony pictures i've uploaded here and i cant seem to find any but the more recent ones either through the catalog or in /arch/.

Are old threads still around somewhere (which has been my assumption) or do they get purged?

If they dont get purged, can someone provide some instructions to help me find my way back to pictures i've posted?

Thanks so much!


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I don't know the rules of special thread archives, but /arch/ unfortunately is restricted to threads 'worthy' to remember.


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Threads get deleted when they fall off the end of the last page of the board.

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Hello, my little ponies! Here is a list of staff on Ponyville.us. If you have any questions or comments concerning staff members, please use the report system or /canterlot/ to contact them for the time being.

Admins -
!!Celestia - Moony
!!Twilight - HawkeyePierce

Sysadmin -
!!Discord - Atticus

Moderators -
!!Zecora - Mondo
!!Rainbow Dash - Wizard
!!Trixie - Zeke Roa
!!Fluttershy - Moony
!!Scootaloo - Bleeding Raindrops, Sweet Chamomile
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Moony, please stay our admin forever.


did hawkeye died


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To be honest, I didn't realize that I was still on the staff list after leaving when I first started gender transition. I'm surprised to find my name still there.

I'm happy to consult on stuff, but I don't expect to be active again anytime soon. I apologize if I gave the impression that I would be.


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Hi everypony! We've been working behind the scenes to resolve issues in our development pipeline and today I bring you the results of that effort. Yes, I am talking about the most elusive and coveted of features, the edit button! You should now have an edit button next to the delete and report buttons which does exactly what it says on the tin. If you aren't seeing the button, you may want to try a ctrl+F5 or to clear your browser cache.

Understand that what we have now is about the minimum for edit functionality. The major limitation is that, just like for deleted posts, the thread auto updater does not effect existing posts. As the person doing the edit, you will see your change immediately, but others who have already had the thread auto update will not see your change unless they manually refresh the page (though if you edit goes through before someone auto updates, they will see the editted post). The auto updater is a pretty complex system, so it will take a little more time to work in automatic updates (and deletes) into that framework.

What's next? I already have the next update set aside with a few quality of life improvements. I plan to let the edit thing simmer for a few days and post another update later this week with these new additions. For the curious, the features planned for that update include:

-Control Shortcuts. Ctrl+[b/i/u/s/r]. Wraps the appropriate tags around text when some text is selected. Adds the appropriate tag at the cursor when no text is selected.
-Inline text quoting. Post links and quoted text will be injected at the cursor instead of the end of the post.
-New tag [tt] for preformated (fixed width) text.
-Fixes an issue where the horizontal width of the quick reply box cannot be resized down in Google Chrome.
-Fixes an issue where text in screenshot images is blurry

After that, I have the ponymotes system 90% done that I want to get added to the site with a small sample of icons. More will be added to the system as they are created.

I am hoping to use this thread for a time to receive feedback and communicate directly with the community about what development features are most in demand. There are a few things already in Canterlot (such as the laggy youtube embeds) but I'm hoping to hear firsthand what people are looking for (also I don't want to scrape through a bunch of Canterlot posts because I'm super lazy).
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>rm -rf ~/$MY_TEMP_DIR
>Guess what happens by default (without "set -e") if $MY_TEMP_DIR is undefined?  Yes, that's right, it goes ahead and deletes your entire home directory!

If you didn't want to delete your home directory, why did you tell bash to delete your home directory? Just because the language requires some expertise to operate doesn't make it bad. The only thing that sets bash apart is that bash is used in a setting where programming mistakes can be more devastating. It isn't the fault of bash if it is misused.

There are plenty of ways to not accidentally delete your home folder in your example. For instance:

if ! [ "${MY_TEMP_DIR}x" == x ]; then
   rm -rf ~/"$MY_TEMP_DIR"


rm -rf ~/"${MY_TEMP_DIR:?Error variable MY_TEMP_DIR unset}"  # Warning, parameter expansion might not work in some versions of bash. yes, you are required to know what you are doing before executing a command
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>Also, unless set -e behaves differently in other versions of bash, it would not help in this situation.
Oops, I meant "set -u".

And yeah, Bash can do a lot of cool stuff, I just wish that it was easier to write robust code than non-robust code.  E.g.,

   rm $foo

works in most cases, so testing is unlikely to reveal the error unless you know to test with problematic filenames.  And the correct code is longer and more complicated:

   rm -­- "$foo"

It would nice if the straightforward syntax was correct.  E.g., in C,

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No disagreements there, Bash could definitely be better. Even very basic tasks can be complicated by the little rules governing white space, special characters, and escaping. As someone with a lot of bash experience, it hardly is a bother to me anymore. But getting to this point took writing thousands of buggy statements and having to go back and understand why it wasn't working how I would have expected.

Still, in my opinion, nothing beats opening a terminal and dropping commands into a file in terms of getting things done. I hate fussing with IDEs and dealing with compiling and all the arcane incantations (public static void main) necessary to make a java program work.


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I think the current thread has gone far enough. Instead of arguing with people in it about why people shouldn't be rude while arguing in a thread that has already seen enough arguing… it should be brought up here.

So, the problem here is that people can't seem to stay civil in political threads.

The solutions proposed are as follows;

1) Ban politics altogether. Not really a fan of this one and it's more like a last ditch solution if nothing else works.

2) Make a board specifically for Politics, a sort of containment board, if you will. This is only a bit of a better option, really, as people have brought up that it would either draw traffic away from /pony/ OR would just end up dead anyways. Which would solve the problem of politics thread in /pony/ but… not in the best way, in my opinion.

and finally 3) Make sure there's always a moderator around to make sure people don't dissolve into insults. To keep things civil. Anyone who can't keep things civil should no longer be allowed to post in politics threads.

Anyways, those are three options that I, and others, have come up with. Anyone else with ideas should post here as well.

Please refrain from "Oh just ignore the threads, you don't have to post in them" response. I'm looking at you, Mondo, as you seem to just love that one, regardless of how unsuited it is to the ongoing discussion.
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Politics can never be truly civil, as it has always been about how to divide up scarce resources (actual or perceived) in the most equitable way.

When resources are perceived to be scarce, people's basic instinct for survival is triggered, which in the past often led to war for resources.

As wars often led to even worse conditions post-war than pre-war for most of the people, the concept of "civility" was born.

"Civility" means everyone comes together and pretends like their survival instinct is not being triggered. Whoever can pretend the best usually gains the most respect and power. Ironically, whoever just doesn't care - often due to being rich or holding a strong position of power - often rises to the top as well, simply because their money and power gives them the luxury of not having to worry about it. This is why corrupt people often rise to power unnoticed - because on the outside they appear to be masters of pretending their survival instinct is not being triggered, when in reality, they're so rich that it just doesn't matter to them what happens to the people who voted them in.

So, you see, civility is not much better than barbarity.

So what is the solution?

Well, you see, politics only exists because of a perceived scarcity of resources. But are resources actually scarce, or are they merely artificially scarce? We have technology millions of times more powerful and more efficient than anything a person 200 years ago had, yet resources are still scarce.
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If you make a place with a certain atmosphere in mind, you'd ideally want that atmosphere to actually be there.

I can see where Jayd is coming from, and I largely agree.


Coloring Books and Play-Dough aren't safe space material

Coloring Books: Paper cuts
Play-Dough: Tastes bad

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