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Canterlot serves as both our moderator board and a site issues board here on Ponyville. You're more than welcome to interact with our staff, and watch how we discuss and handle certain issues on site.

Unlike /cartoon/, /pony/, or any other boards that may follow, Canterlot should remain a fairly serious board. The rules will be enforced much stricter here on Canterlot.

While some generally silliness is expected and encouraged, please also try to keep posting to the other boards.

I hope we'll get to see you around /Canterlot/ now and then! I know our staff ponies will just love spending time with you here in our little staff room.


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Hello, my little ponies! Here is a list of staff on Ponyville.us. If you have any questions or comments concerning staff members, please use the report system or /canterlot/ to contact them for the time being.

Admins -
!!Celestia - Moony
!!Coco Pommel - Starshine
!!Luna - Dizzy, Abby, Pepp, Savvy, Braze, Chroma, Grace

Sysadmin -
!!Discord - Atticus

Tech admins -
!!Starswirl - Foreground
!!Thorax - Max

Moderators -
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Streamlining Canterlot

It is the opinion of the staff that Canterlot has exceeded its original purposes, and requires substantial streamlining in order to make it functional. Canterlot has become an unnecessary dramatic place, and the following policy seeks to reduce that drama first and foremost.

If a user has an issue concerning moderator action to bring to Canterlot, that user shall open a thread, and a moderator or admin will respond. That user may then post a rebuttal and then request a lock. No other users may post in that thread. After the lock is requested, a staff member shall lock the thread, and then provide an answer.

In so doing, each Canterlot thread shall have the user's posts, a moderators answers, and that's it. “Meta” matters will not be permitted on other boards, outside of /canterlot/, with the policy strictly enforced.

This policy need not apply to site discussion threads, which will remain open for all users to weigh in on, provided responses are kept civil and relevant, and the thread OP is tagged appropriately.

Thank you all for your time.


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I propose we get some of Thorax's data-purging cronjobs running around here to randomly blast threads and stuff.

It'd improve the stability of the moderation and increase morale as all posters are subjected to an equal source of anxiety.

Can you port those scripts to run here Thorax?


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I'll present the idea to the staff and in the unlikely event they agree, we'll put the random destruction of the site into the code.


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How about random image derps like in the days of yore?


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Random is the key aspect of the destruct crons, so other random things should be good as well.

Probly best to ensure its a tedious slow deterioration; no one likes sudden nuclear glass.


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If the mod team is seriously considering banning all images that contain a Nazi swastika, I would like the Communist hammer-and-sickle to also be banned.

But my preference would be to keep the same rules as before: shitposting with swastikas is verboten, but legitimate uses (e.g., screenshots from  Wolf3D in an appropriate context) are allowed.

Previous related thread: http://ponyville.us/canterlot/res/1099.html#1130

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Its kind of hard to see the good in someone when they just burn down a center killing 45 people in it but hey he found and nursed a box kittens abandon under a bridge right after the attack.


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Yes, propogating pest species like kittens is pretty heinous.

How does burning down people mitigate the cat crimes?


We're not planning to ban usage of the Hammer & Sickle. Right now the only "No" is Nazi symbolism. You can often discuss the meaning of the symbols without images portraying them on site.

This is not an invitation to post other controversial images, just discuss heavy topics with careful consideration and things should be well.

Individuals that accidentally post these symbols or use them in well-intentioned contexts won't be met with immediately harsh discipline or any such thing.

Further conversation about this will be done with other moderators until we arrive at a final conclusion.

The thread is also being locked due to a rather obscene amount of shitposting.



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Users should be able to request mod-only responses to their threads on Canterlot.

You should add that to the discussion points.


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This request seems like a good idea to keep canterlot less me vitriolic.


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I noticed that when I switch devices, such as going from my phone to the tablet, the anonymous name you are given in a specific town hall thread will change even though I am on the same wifi.

Do the different devices use different IPs?

Should I try to correct this, or just stay on the same device?

(Guys, guys, how do I computer?)
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>Do the different devices use different IPs?
They have different local IP addresses, but your router likely NATs them behind a single shared public IP.  You can find out your public IP address by googling "what is my IP address?" from each device.


Fun fact, not just the ip is tracked. Your password is also tracked in case your phone slips across multiple mobile ips. If you set the password field manually to be the same across devices, you will get the same name.



Thank you!


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Okay remaking this thread because the other one is developing into bullshit.

Can we please add back in that rule that banned hateful symbols and stuff, like the Swastika?

Not that people are posting that stuff, I just find it weird that it disappeared when the rules were redone, and the rules as we have them aren't clear enough on this particular thing.

I assume it was just an oversight but... Anyways, just a suggestion.

Mod responses only in this thread. Mods please delete the other one for me, its out of my capability to do so.


I don't actually know if users can request only mod response, but I see no reason not to honor the request.

We'll look this over. If we feel it requires community input to make a decision we'll open up a discussion.


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Most recently a person was banned 4 hours for a warning "from last night" and in the past i was given "two years of your *÷! constitutes warning".

Moons was very clear the purpose of warnings are to provide an opportunity for the offender to desist from rulebreaking behavior.

A day ago's warning does not provide such opportunity.

I request that staff either adhere to the warnings policy that has been promised repeatedly for like, a year?  Or desist from their own rulebreaking behavior of banning without providing "opportunity to desist" first.
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>What happened yesterday has expired.
I don't think it works like that.  If you get warned one day, you're supposed to remember it the next day.


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Ah so if i ask you to pipe down, then what i mean is to pipe down every day, forever, based on just one time i mentioned you were too loud.  Its up to you to know that you are too loud every day thereafter because i told you once in the past.

Its good i have you around to clear these things up for me.  I'm slow.

Touche! and well played.)



Okay, well I'm glad it's been cleared up, then.  I'm gonna lock this thread, too, the issue seems solved.


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So when's this purported rule for Canterlot supposed to come into effect?

How about now?

Mods only ITT.
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The post has been updated to clarify this, if anyone is still confused.

>This policy need not apply to site discussion threads, which will remain open for all users to weigh in on, provided responses are kept civil and relevant, and the thread OP is tagged appropriately.

I hope that clears everything up


Thanks! You can lock the thread now


wait shit my name is gone


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I've been seeing some posts with random jabs at other users, like "P.S. OP has no room to talk about tolerance for other people" and "That's funny coming from you".  I feel those types of jabs are making Ponyville.us a less welcoming place for people by dredging up unrelated past drama and disagreement.  Does Rule 1 prohibit such jabs?  If it does, I suggest that it actually be enforced.  If it doesn't, I suggest that Rule 1 be embiggened so that it does prohibit such jabs.

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Indeed it isn't, but it is still somewhat related.

Manley calling out Mint for being racist shouldn't be considered an unnecessary jab. Calling out racists and nazis should not be punished, no matter how many times a person does it or how off topic it is.

If you make it against the rules to do so, you're no better than a nazi or racist yourself. Those who do not speak out against evil contribute to the growth of evil.

Even if Mint isn't a full on Nazi or a White Supremacist by technicality, he should still be called out on his racist views.

So it's not really a trial about how racist Mint is, it's already confirmed that Mint is at least somewhat racist, and he should be able to be called out for it at any time up until the point that he stops holding those views, or discussing them, period.

Up to you, though. I would like Mint if he didn't hold those views, he seems like a nice enough person otherwise.


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Can anyone explain to me why East Asians have bigger brains than White people? Is it a “cultural” factor?

>The world’s largest survey of brain sizes, conducted by American scientists three decades ago using more than 20,000 modern human skulls from around the globe, found that the average cranial volume among East Asians was 1,415 cubic centimetres, compared with 1,362 for Europeans


I suppose the shape of ones skull or the size of their brain have absolutely no correlation with intelligence or personality?



Alright, just no.  If you want to talk about skull sizes do it on /townhall/, I'm sure people have things to say, just somewhere else.  I am locking this thread, all questions have been answered and it doesn't require further discussion.

>As for Grace, I guess it wasn't implicitly part of the conversation because I wasn't calling for them to not be listened to. Being nice to people for the sake of it IS good advice, I just found the source of that advice ironic, given that person(s)'s history of complacency in utterly heinous acts. And honestly, I'm having trouble parsing when pointing out irony is allowed on this site and not considered a "jab". Should I have prefaced that with "You should listen to them, even if they haven't always followed their own advice."?

Like Chain said, just don't post that.  That's the drama.  For an easy rule just don't even talk about the situation between you two.  If something comes up and you think it's really super important that people know, come ask me about it and I will tell you if it is appropriate to post or not.


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I would like to contest the ban that was issued in  >>>/pony/965063.

Mint horse is a known white supremacist and white nationalist. He has no qualms in admitting so. I find the things he believes dangerous and having someone like that on the board makes it a less welcoming place to anyone who isn't white.

Even if I have to begrudgingly accept his presence on the board because he has not (technically) violated the rules, I should NOT be forced to tolerate his ideology. The post made in >>>/pony/965063 was an attack on that ideology, not on his person. The board should not be protecting his ideology. It sets a bad precedent for this board and what it should be endorsing and standing for when you are banning users for telling others they should not be racists.


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Given Mint Horse's reply, we have decided to repeal this ban. We apologize for the lengthy deliberation


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For those that missed it, the following was in the deleted image >>>/pony/961012

(accompanying a picture of Hermann Göring)
Those who "still think they can continue to treat animals as inanimate property" would be sent to concentration camps...

Quoting a literal Nazi is not against the rules. But in the context here, it looks like tacit approval of the Nazi concentration camps, which is something we would rather be aggressive about keeping off the site.

Note, if Mint says it wasn't his intent to support concentration camps, that's okay, but the image still needed to go. It just doesn't belong on this site.

I also might add, the quote is apparently in the context of vivisection, which is a horrific act. But even still, let's not even hint at condoning the holocaust here, alright?

Please let us know if you disagree or have further comments.
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Why yes of course, my good man.


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Yes to him having White privilege, or yes to him being left out?


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White privilege, of course.

Everyone here except Manley gets it.  Seems fair, yes?


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For those who don’t know Steam Twist was banned almost two years ago for what can only be described as perceived transphobia. Despite having the best of intentions at this time Steam knew virtually nothing about transgenderism, which lead him to misgender and otherwise a certain user on many occasions. Steam by his own word, and the word of others, tried his best to be as sensitive and understanding in regards to this topic and said poster as possible, but because of his general ignorance surrounding the topic, and the fact that he has Aspergers (a condition that I also have) Steam was repeatedly misunderstood and assumed to be transphobic by this community.

My question is wither or not ignorance and lack of social understanding can be considered as bigotry? I don’t think so. In fact I think this community was in the wrong for judging Steam so negatively, despite the fact that everyone knows about his condition. It seems to me that most members of this community were either eager to jump on the offence bandwagon without fully analysing the situation from everyone’s point of view, or they simply had a personal problem with Steam Twist. But... I also understand how sensitive the topic of transgenderism can be for both trans and non-trans people alike, so I can’t hold too much of a grudge against this community.

The community should have tried to empathise with Steam to a greater extent, before explaining the complex workings of transgenderism to him, and why what he said was wrong and not welcome in this community. Bullying and kicking him from the site could have caused significant resentment on Steams side, which may have lead to him becoming genuinely transphobic, but luckily Steam took this a learning curb and seems to have became a lot more informed on trans issues, as well as having at least one transgender friend.

In conclusion, Steam Twist has learned his lesson and genuinely resents what he did, which lead him to become more informed on transgender issues. While the user in question has left the site, I’m well aware of the fact that this community still has a substantial transgender population, but I think considering that Steam has become more than educated on this topic that there is no chance that he’ll offend anyone.

Nearly two years is a long time to be banned over a few ignorant, but offensive comments. I think it’s time to give Steam another chance.

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In case anyone on the site staff is seriously considering letting Steam Twist back, here is some evidence that he still has lots of anger problems in regards to people accidentally misinterpreting him.


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<= part 2


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i like Steam Twist... and do feel sorry for him. i think he has learned a lesson, though perhaps not the intended one...

That said, it is my opinion, and the opinion of the staff, that Steam Twist is not ready to return to the site. While it can be agreed that Steam Twist has learned from his experiences, his behavior is still problematic, and has continued to be so. The staff has every reason to believe that rule breaking behavior will continue if he returns to the site.

i admire the feeling of wanting to help out others. i would personally love it if Ponyville could be a sanctuary for every single person out there, who has not had a place to call home.

But the staff must make hard decisions sometimes: we cannot throw out many people from their sanctuary, for one person who treats our site more like a personal playground than anything else.

Steam Twist's appeal is denied at this time. i know it's not easy to hear. It isn't easy to say. But it is, ultimately, what is best for the community.


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Hi I got a small problem.

I'm on my phone about 50% of the time I'm here. I use the Quick Reply box because obviously.

I dont know of its my phone or the browser or the site or what, but every time the Quick Reply box pops up, about a quarter of it is cut off from the screen on the right side. It makes it so I cant see the far right side of my posts. Even turning my phone sideways does nothing.

I also can't move the box. Putting my finger on it and trying to move it does nothing but highlight text.

If anyone knows whats causing this or how to fix it that would be great.
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...well... Zeke's working on something for us. Maybe we should be early adopters. i had no idea t+3 software was so bad. ....i cannot even remember how Foreground and i picked it.

If i was involved, it was probably something like "oh, this one's popular!"


Gochan still has a long ways to go before it reaches feature parity with the variant of Tinyboard that we're using now.


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I was only trying to scare you.

(Oops sorry humor)


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When I voiced concerns about the new rules concerning /canterlot/ and the streamlining of the moderation process, I was told that attempts would be made by the modstaff to not let the mods !!Scootaloo and (the collection of identities who operate under the name of) !!Luna make decisions about or take disciplinary actions against me alone to avoid potential bias. I have off-site history with these individuals, and while I don't feel it's necessary to go into the details of that history here, I will if asked to. To keep it short, they have both said and/or done some pretty horrendous things to me in the past. I feel my fear of potential bias is warranted because of those past actions.

However, in >>>/pony/960354, >>>/pony/960370  it appears that !!Luna made a decision and acted alone in issuing a judgement and punishment for a perceived violation of the rules. I would like to formally request that another member of the mod staff overlook this issued punishment and also formally request the same be done to ALL future punishments coming from these individuals I mentioned above. Preferable BEFORE the punishment has already been issued and served. I think this is important to ensure there is no personal bias in these decisions.

As a side note: While I cannot change the punishment that was issued now, as it has already been served in full, I would like to contest the motivations for the decision that was made, since I was not offered the chance to appeal and this event might have an effect on any further escalation of punishments.

>>>/pony/960370 claims that I "attacking" and "disrespecting" other people. The ban message contained more, and included a list of rules I had purportedly broken, but that has since expired. I do not agree with the assessment that I violated those rules. The three individuals who posted in >>>/pony/960156, >>>/pony/960158 and >>>/pony/960211 (if they are in fact three separate individuals) have a known, consistent history of behavior that skirts the lines of violating the site's rules against trolling and "shitposting", and if they are not actually three separate individuals our rules against sock-puppeting. It is a fair thing to wonder about and question the nature of this person(s) who acts in such a bizarre manner for seemingly no reason, especially when invited to question it as I was in >>>/pony/960358. My quesPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


Alright, so I'm not gonna lie, we all forgot about the thing with those two mods.  We will try to be more vigilant on that in the future.

But despite your justifications for doing so, and even despite the poster possibly being okay with it, harsh sounding questioning like that isn't allowed in the site.  It can put off other posters, making them wonder how they'd be judged, even if they aren't part of the conversation.  The same reason we've never allowed slurs, even between people using them amongst themselves as friends.  A third party won't necessarily know the context, and a new poster might be frightened away by our exclusion of their identity as someone who's mentally ill.  "Insane" "nutsos" who "just talk to themselves" are welcome on the site.

And I know I've warned you before on this, too, maybe with less detail, but it's not the first time you've said these sorts of things to that particular poster(s?).  I get how weird tulpas can be, and if it were to come up in conversation I would definitely suggest people not mess around with creating tulpas, but posters who have created tulpas and also the tulpas themselves are still considered ordinary users of the site and are protected by all the same rules.

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