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I mean, we can scrap the whole site and solve a lot of problems that way too! But I mean, at this point it's probably fine since I doubt anyone even uses Netherlands theme anymore. And if so, they don't need special banners.

Still, I made those silly nl banners and they'll be missed. Stroopwafel.


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So you put us in dutch for a laff.

Such betrayal, sentence you to wear wooden clogs.


Oh, this is a the code thread?  I'd like to make a small request: On the
thread pages, add a
metadata link to the full thread.

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Hello! You probably know me as Dizzy, and I was a Moderator/Co-Admin on this site for some time. Well, I'm back, but there is some clarity that needs to be clarified before we resume as normal.

I'm not just "Dizzy". I never have been. I suffer from multiple personalities, and treat each personality as though they are a dear sister. Not a single one of us is in charge, and we all carry our own beliefs, convictions, and ideals. We are siblings, but in one mind, as we tell ourselves.

This means the position of Luna will be occupied by one body, which is composed of 7 people and 7 names. We will all do our best to take responsibility for our sisters' actions and maintain transparency.

All 7 of us, separately, are known as Dizzy, Abby, Peppermint, Savvy, Braze, Chroma, and Grace. Our job, like before, is to communicate with the users and determine how they feel about the site and its atmosphere/policies. We expect to see you around the site, and hope you have a good time<3
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It highlights the irrational fear/intolerance people have regarding mental health.  Even among supposed pony people and it's so good to hear a constructive comment like yours, thanks!


I'm in mad pony love with the sisters and i'm so happy to know youses.  I hope that's ok to say!

edit:  i just noticed my name is missing.  In case there was any doubt, this is lost pony.



This is stupid late, but awesome! It's good to have you guys here again.


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I wasn't sure where else to put these, but a while ago Moony commissioned me for some banners, and I only saw one in rotation.

And also because life ran me over, but I finished the other ones today!

These are for you guys and I wasn't sure where else to put them.
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Just refreshed, they look fine to me. I'm not super worried. Thank you again!


Wow these are really nice


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These ones especially look real good up there.

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a lost pony wonders if Rule Zero is ever going to be enforced here or if it is just vaporware.

I keep seeing deliberately rude things said in particular by a specific individual and when they are said to me and I say that wasn't nice, I am accused of using Rule Zero as a "bludgeon".  etc.

I have clearly stated on several occasions that my firm opinion is that Rule Zero violation which runs rampant on this site underlies the debacle that led to a complete rules makeover.

imo laze faire enforcement of Rule Zero (or perceived LACK of any enforcement all) causes a lot of unhappiness on an otherwise very happy pony site and I'm sorry Moons and staff, I'm really kind of frustrated about this and I'd like some direct discussion about the issue all by itself, without distraction of other issues.
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Well, I directly experienced it and it was what it was.  You can criticize me for not discussing it with you when in fact my attempt to do so was met with indignation and vitriol as you attempted to squash my feelings in the way that you addressed me.  If that's not what happened in your opinion, that's still the factual reality of what I experienced.

Further, as I explained, words directed to another can offend other people for example if I used a racial slur for black people against anyone, it would offend you and I find your ongoing accusation that I am offended because I am wrong and therefore not offended, or not offended and trying to cause trouble as a "white knight", to be in and of itself deeply disrespectful and dismissive of my feelings.  Whether you intend that or not, which I am not assuming.  It's how it comes across to me, and that you cannot rebut because it is simply true.

Fortunately, I seem to be wearing a thicker skin today so I no longer care.  I already regret having said anything, and I accept that it's not going to accomplish anything anyway because no one, least of all you, will hold you accountable for your words followed by circular evasions to any attempt to discuss it with you, unless you are able to reach the conclusion that no one got hurt and you got away with your careless hurtful words yet again.

Notice I said "careless" not deliberate.  Somehow I am convinced that you don't mean to be such an unpleasant person.  But my point has never been that you are unconscionably mean and nasty on purpose (or if it ever was, then I was wrong and I don't remember it anymore), but has been that you hurt my feelings and you demonstrate a lack of concern about having done so, and then attempt to force me to take the blame for what you have done to me.  I dunno, as I've said before maybe it IS all my fault.  I should probably not be here to be so easily damaged.

Regardless, today I don't care anymore.  Other than regretting the debacle that I caused trying to make a stand on this issue.  I know I should just let it roll off, and today it has.  Yesterday, it was different.

I really would appreciate if you at least try to listen to someone whose feelings are hurt and make a genuine attempt to understand how your words were involved instead of alPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


See, that's another problem. You are so emotionally unstable that it's impossible to know what is going to set you off and what you're suddenly going to stop caring about. I can't do what you ask because it's unreasonable. Even someone who doesn't like me like Noonim was able to calmly discuss my comment, while you had a temper tantrum about it. I can't deal with that kind of time. If you can't control yourself enough to interact with other people, I fail to see how that's my fault.

I can't control what you ASSUME my words mean, especially when it's clear you are looking to find the worst. And I can't control how you react. Does no one else see a problem with this?


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Thread is being locked on request of OP.


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Can we make a music board? It's one of our most common threads.
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Call it /everybodypostsnobodylistens/ :fluf4:


That is the truest and funniest post I have seen in a while XD

But I mean, I try to listen; I just can't listen to every song :coco2:


I've found some of my favorite songs thanks to music threads.


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Recently, the thread >>1975 had been locked, at the time following a post made by !!Scootaloo, that has since been deleted. Unfortunately, the thread had not really run its course, outside of maybe how Mooney's going to have staff preform in the future.

I'm not really sure why the thread was locked overall, and, since the post made by !!Scootaloo was the last I saw, I was quite enraged by the action. It seems that post was deleted, however, so it's possible I simply misunderstood the reasoning for it being locked, as would be apparent by my original OP post. Either way, though, the thread's clearly not run its course, as !!Scootaloo and I were still speaking to one another on the subject, mainly around whether his assertions had any grounding at all.

Initially I had major issue with the deletion, having largely assumed it was done by !!Scootalo to again have the last word, but, if that is not the case, I apologize. I shouldn't've looked at it like that.
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yes, sorry, i meant the response we gave in the /pony/ thread.


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Ah, gotcha. Wasn't quite sure.

It's all good, then. Though I still'd prefer the post be otherwise changed, but, like I said earlier, it doesn't matter that much since it isn't on the front page any more.


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I keep my word, and I've taken a few days to think about things.
Please accept my personal apology for false accusations and oversight


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>If either of you allows yourself to engage in this sort of behavior again, both parties involved will receive bans
Well that seems awfully unfair.  If only one party is guilty, then shouldn't only that party be punished?  I don't think this is like a "it takes two to tango" situation.
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And actually, it might please you to hear that was not so harsh. I find your tone actually a nice reprieve from the discussions I've been involved in so far.


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>Noonim is also a chronic offender
Huh, would've never known but for this word here, seeing as nobody's ever seen fit to tell me it.

But, I don't think LP's point was that it was Manley's fault. Rather, I think LP's point was that the mods keep dropping the ball in this regard. Very few warnings are ever given, Manley's political ban is incredibly vague and also rather unenforced, and overall, there seems to be a rather sharp lack of communication when it comes to the overarching issue here.
I personally think I'd agree, over all, as it seems Manley didn't know feminism was not an allowed topic. Manley seemed to believe he could talk about most anything unless it pertained to politicians or policy. Which certainly doesn't fit my standard of 'politics' which is why I had always seen it as that he seems to argue what he wants to.


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I fear nothing, Rose, least of all what others may think of my words.  That is part of why i've gotten myself so easily in trouble and why it is best that i hesitate to criticize others.

You and I are both rage-a-holics, Rose.  We both have more to fear from our own self-judgment than what others may think of our words.  I felt, as i am certain others do, that the less i interfere with issues like this one, the better.  The temptation to get up in other people's business makes me frown at myself.  It often doesn't turn out well.

I too find arguing with Noonim to be tedious and arguing with Manley is worse.  Which is why he has a restriction in the first place.  That posters on this site are made uncomfortable by such knock-down drag-outs is why Manley should have been warned much sooner, not because he is wrong by definition.

It's been made clear that the political nature of the subject material was not fully understood by the staff.  As a result, i feel my accusations of their negligence are baseless and highlights why my own high-and-mighty judgment of others is rather better kept to myself in most cases.  With more information, my assumptions are often proven wrong.

Anyway i have more things to say but i am just going to drop this now.  I don't want to keep the fires burning.


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Continued, from /pony/ sticky.
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Oh, you know you're right. Our stupid ban list deletes the history of the ban after it expires and has been viewed by the user. I forgot about that, I need to fix that cuz it doesn't really make sense for a board as small as ours, we can keep the ban history just fine. So I guess, scratch the 26 week thing. But still, bans aren't used to often.


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Not to make trouble, [proceeds to make trouble] then why doesn't the clean slate apply to Manley's political ban?


I think you're confused.  What Moony said is that the ban count starts at zero for the purposes of the ban escalation table.  I dont think Manley's politics ban counts toward the count for the escalation table.

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Unfortunately I'm posting this from my phone, so I'll be a tad clumsy with this thread, undoubtedly, but, I'm afraid the post eliceted a rather sharp reaction, and, while I'm sure it'd be best to wait until I get home, that's in a lot of time, and I simply do not have the will to ignore something like this.
I am, of course, referring to !!Scootaloo's post here http://ponyville.us/pony/res/849668.html#857859 (pardon the lack of quality crosspost; I was never good at those).

Not only was it incredibly insulting, I had no chance to explain myself or give my own story. Instead, I was berated publicly, for all to see, on something that I simply do not believe to be true.

As I'm sure you can understand, it's thoroughly embarrassing, generally stressful, and, naturally, enraging.

If these sorts of judgements must be made, please, keep them at the very least private, and give a chance to reply. Instead, I have to make this thread, which undoubtedly only further sets us at odds, as I'm certain now all parties feel insulted.

This did not need to happen. I am, and always will be, completely open to discussion from anyone, on any issues between us. While I am certainly bullheaded, you can ask Mikie for confirmation on that, I am also always willing to communicate past differences or issues. Again, Mikie can confirm that.

All in all, I should hope no user needs be berated and publicly shamed like this, and certainly would hope it is not standard practice.
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I've been trying that. Guess I'll keep at it. Maybe I'll try being more brief.
Email is impersonal, slow, and too cold in general. While I understand some people's preference for it... Can you imagine going through some 70+ different emails trying to keep track of what is what?
I wouldn't want to deal with that.

>He isn't, and you aren't allowed to lead him into trying to debate that, either.
Was never my goal. Like I said, I can't tell what limitations there are around his ban, unfortunately, as feminism, for example, was fine until now.

>i really cannot go and read all of this, noonim, or go back to read all of that huge thread. It's really giving the staff a headache too.
I totally understand. Most of it's been a back and forth from me and Scootaloo, here, who doesn't quite seem to understand that my issue here, at least as far as this thread goes, is entirely to do with the accusations made.

Honestly, there's not that much left for you, as far as that sort of thing goes. I would prefer the post be deleted or otherwise modified, though.
Although, this is less important now that it isn't on the front page any more... Still, though.


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i wouldn't say feminism is fine: it's just, we didn't catch it in time, and it's not really fair to go back so far now and retroactively act on something both parties got so confused over

scootaloo's post, you mean, deleted or modified?


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That's fine, I guess. It's a bit of a confusing ban in general.

>scootaloo's post
Yeah, basically.
It's not a huge deal now, though, since it isn't on the front page any more.


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I got the following error message when submitting post >>>/pony/857059 (consisting entirely of a cheese emoji):
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Well, that's kinda amusing. I guess I'll take a look this weekend.


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For the record this has annoyed me for a while. Today is the day I choose to bitch about it.

If you hover on a link to OP while using the dark theme it incorrectly highlights the post in pink when it should be light grey.

I haven't rummaged through the CSS myself, but I assume it'll be a quick fix. Not exactly urgent though.
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Looks like there are a lot of small things piling up, I'll see if I can knock them all out soon.


This is done. Wish all requests were this easy.




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You got more to say on this topic? Say it here!
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OK, well ones like that that you aren't sure of, you can mark NSFW.  (Even though I think that one is most likely safe.)  But the first two that you posted in this thread are clearly non-risque, so I don't think you should have trouble marking them as such, no?


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My problem is the original photo that's got me in trouble was also one I personally considered rather tame, not too dissimilar from this one of Anna, for example.

But, since they say it's just going to be changed to NSFW if there is a problem, it's not much to worry about. All flight what I think could be, and just post as normal otherwise.


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Feature request: Please add an indication of whether an image has been marked as NSFW.


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I'm really curious what sort of spaghetti code is running this place.  I say that because on my own cgi web forum, I could always seem to implement changes within minutes/hours that seem to be monumental undertakings here.  Things like the SFW switch would literally take minutes to make.  So what sort of duct tape is holding this place together?  What's the main issue when it comes to site changes?  I'm not saying this to put down the devs, more that I want to understand what the hangups are.
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Here, this was the effort required to make the change for the SFW Switch. Took about 6 lazy dev hours (i.e. part of the time spent was faffing about). I ended up going with just adding a column for nsfw, because anything else seemed like madness. I pretty much could not have made it happen with any fewer changes that this.


>>1942  interesting.  what were the quick reply deletions?


It was doing crazy things to get the Spoiler Image checkbox to right align on the same line as the file selector of quick reply panel. Considering I dropped the checkboxes under the file selector, I didn't need that madness anymore.


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I propose we create a new /sleepykittens/ board.


I'm sorry anon, we had a big debate over it in mod chat and while the staff was split we ultimately decided against /sleepykittens/. Just between you and me, I'd have supported this new board, maybe even decommissioned /pony/ in favor of it. But, I ultimately am just a dev and can't force it through by myself.

But please make as many sleepykittens threads on /pony/ as you want, and maybe with enough demand and support we can get that new board up and running :3


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I find that posts (especially long posts) are more pleasant to read when the line spacing is increased, e.g.:

    div.body {line-height: 1.333}

It would be nice if there were an option to set a value for


That's probably doable. I mean, I'll throw it on the to do heap.

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