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 No.16406

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 No.16407

>The talks, described as preliminary in nature
is it so surprising trump's cabinet would casually talk about who they perceive as the opposition and how to take advantage of them to make their lives harder?

also would note that this would violate the 2nd amendment, but they might try to test the courts out some more

as it was apparently linked to a recent shooting ...interesting to note that it's similar to what democratic politicians did in relation to guns -- i.e.: "x" happened. a gun was involved. it must be the gun's fault. ...only worse now, since instead of focusing on an inanimate object and placing the blame on that, republican politicians may be placing the blame on objectified groups of people

furthermore, they continue to ignore the role religion may have played in the shooting -- i.e.: why not ban certain denominations of xianity that promote violence from being tax-exempt or receiving government funding?

i.e.: when it comes to politics, nothing ever happens

 No.16408

I'd probably be inclined to care if it weren't for the decades of campaigning for disarmament of those whom that side of politics disagrees with.
As it is... Well, frankly, I'm just sick of defending people who hate me and want me dead.

Not like this is a shock, anyways. Trump was always anti-gun, red flag laws literally came up under him. Hardly a shock from a New York liberal.

 No.16409

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>>16408
>I'd probably be inclined to care if it weren't for the decades of campaigning for disarmament of those whom that side of politics disagrees with.

You've obviously never engaged in critical thinking skills whenever your prefered pundits conflate leftist and liberals. But besides that being transgender is not a political ideology. Why would you assume I'm anti-gun?

But of course, it doesn't matter, you don't have a sincere or consistent ideology.

 No.16410

>>16409
Me choosing not to care is not an inconsistency in ideology.
I just am, as I said, sick of defending people who want me dead.
I do not understand why you feel entitled to my defense.
I am not your guard. You do not pay me.

 No.16411

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It kinda do be like this

 No.16412

>>16411
Except that the left is the group that keeps trying to murder people.
Today, it turns out, they were successful.

If you're going to pull the scorpion and the frog, I would posit it seems to be the left perpetually doing the stabbing, despite the right trying to hold to principle and not behave as the moster you so oft insist we are.

 No.16413

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>>16410

So I take it you don't really care about the 2nd amendment?

Typical MAGA is hypocrisy about the very principles they claim to hold.

And again, transgender is not a political ideology. Nor does it imply any.

But that doesn't matter, it's not about consistent principles with MAGA, it's just grievance politics.

 No.16414

>>16413
I do.
I've just not got the energy to defend the rights of people who hate me.

 No.16415

>>16412
Haha okay pal. I knew someone in the army who went to prison necause he took it upon himself to 'take back this country for trump' you don't need to bullshit me and pretend violence from the right doesn't exist. I see it every day.

 No.16416

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Don't forget: when the right does assassination it's okay for republicans to laugh. Apparently if you're on the left, you're held to a higher standard

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>>16415
>>16416

Yeah, the amount of hypocrisy and playing dumb on the right in response to Kirk's assassination is disgusting but not at all surprising.

Kirk reaped what he'd sown. You spread enough hateful rhetoric and you risk inciting violence against others and eventually that can come back to haunt you from those you've hurt with that violence.

 No.16418

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 No.16419

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 No.16420

>>16418
Please, by all means, explain to me how gun control would've stopped a 30-06 bolt action rifle.
Or are we finally stopping the stupid narrative that "oh, no, no, it's not ALL your guns! Just the scary black ones!"?

 No.16421

>>16416
The story got dropped pretty quick once the narrative they were some evil right wing nutter dropped out of credibility.
Last I heard, Walz didn't like the connections being drawn.

 No.16422

>>16416
>>16417
>>16421
Also should add: I didn't see anyone "laughing" at that incident. They thought it was suspect, really fucking weird, and questioned the whole execution considering there were so many piles of failures along the way.
But laughing at it? Hardly.

I get you and Andrea live in a fantasy land where right wingers are literally direct clones of Adolf Hitler, twirling their mustaches and laughing all the way... But it's really no where near reality.

Also;I hope you understand your whining about "violent rhetoric" applies just as well to you.
By your own narrative, why are you not just as valid a target as Kirk?
What makes it unjustified for some right winger to try to gun you down, given the rhetoric you spew on a daily basis?

"Rules for thee, but not for me", I am sure...

 No.16423

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>>16422

I am a former right winger, I have/had them in my family too, I was raised by two right-wingers, one of them a once aspiring GOP politician. I don't think any of them are literally hitler (I mean, Hitler wasn't the only evil right-wing villain in history afterall) and not all right-wingers are all identical. Unfortunately it seems like the right-wing had a big fat problem with the far-right trying to purge moderates from the Republican party, so those still part of it are suspect to me.

I dont think they're literally hitler, but are very easily manipulated by what a lot of right-wingers are willfully ignorant. Being anywhere from uncomfortable with to outright intolerant of uncertainty, ambiguity, difference, non-conformity, diversity, change, unpredictability, and curiosity, a lot of right-wingers are attracted to right-wing ideologies because hierarchically structured society feels safer and more predictable than one that's flatter and more equal. Right-wingers also tend to prefer a more simplified worldview where 'common sense' is more reliable than rigorous investigation for solving problems. These biases make the right-winger personality type much more susceptible to finding authoritarian demogogues appealing.

And no, I'm not saying divisive rhetoric justified Kirk's assassination, I'm just stating that the consequences are not surprising given his divisive rhetoric. His and many other corporate backed right-wing political activists and media pundits in that whole media ecosystem for decades at this point. Now we're divided.

 No.16424

>>16423
I think your attempts at projection are laughable, and hold as much water as one'd expect from such typical "nuh all muh ememies r jus dum!!!!" comments.

To claim that it's the right that's making "divisive" rhetoric, especially, is just plainly pathetic. Especially in regards to the media, as a whole. As though we haven't had decades at this stage of constant condemnations, attacks, and declarations of the right as a "threat to democracy" and so on, to leave aside the perpetual excusing of political violence.

Hell, even you do not condemn the actions.
Your ilk never do.

 No.16425

>>16424

Frankly, no, I don't have much sympathy for any of the right wing media grifter scene right now. A lot of people are suffering right now cause of Trump's stupidity and hubris. A ton of people have all sorts of reasons to be angry at everyone on the right who helped make this fascists state possible, the number of people who might have a motive could be staggering.

Acknowledging reality isn't justifying the murder.

 No.16426

>>16421
Oh please enlighten me. I know you have some absolutely insane shit to say about this.

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 No.16428

>>16422
It must be so convenient to live in a world where you simply pretend not to see anything that might conflict with your worldview

 No.16430

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This is truly the evilest and stupidest timeline.

Let's name this '4chan America'.

Because everything is fucking 4chan.

Everything. Is. Fucking. 4chan.

I'm calling it right now that a young man is going to assassinate the Pope and then yell out while pointing to the side: "Check out these fucking doubles!"

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 No.16433

How much you wanna bet that the feds panicked and grabbed the first memelord who matched their APB of "white male"? I'm just saying, most of the evidence that I'm seeing is that he's edgy and weird and owns clothes.

 No.16436

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>>16431
Some are saying the shooter is left-wing.  I don't know if there is enough evidence available now to conclude confidently what his political views were.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/sep/12/charlie-kirk-shooter-suspect-latest-news-updates-donald-trump-utah?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-68c47b768f086519d327114d#block-68c47b768f086519d327114d


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