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>>15644
Should be highlighted that some major Republicans aren't happy with North Korean style military parades and other policies that define modern America.

Granted, if you found a time machine and told the 2008 era version of me that's standing the voting booth smiling as I check off John McCain for Republican President that in about two decades the Party would mostly support violently coercing regular people into North Korean style military parades and otherwise transmogrify itself into this totalitarian death cult to a large degree... a Republican of the 2000s versus the 2020s being as different as a German miltary officer of the 1890s and the 1940s... I'd like... have a stroke...

Really, without any irony, it must be said: kudos to the multiple Republicans sticking up for sanity.

>>15644
Standard responses
> what about all the democrats also being mentioned? What about Bill Clinton?
> just because Trump is mentioned doesn't mean he did anything bad. Lots of people consorted with Epstein . Despite all his questionable bravado, Trump really didn't know what happened on Epstein island.


>>15648
This is probably going to be more of a funny anecdote.
He's going to LARP the big chief and post how it was the best parade in the history of military parades and how every other leader in the world is shitting their pants in fear of the US and himself.

All the while the parade is gonna be mid and will be against a backdrop of nationwide protests flipping Trump off.

>>15648
Man, look at these horrible evil nazis, doing a parade! Truly only mosnters would do something like that!

>>15662
>the "Allies and Axis forces during World War II were morally exactly the same" trope again

No.

They weren't.

I don't care how many times MAGAs and their compatriots claim this.

It's a lie.

We were not the same. We were never the same.

>>15666
>the "Allies and Axis forces during World War II were morally exactly the same" trope again
That was rather obviously the point. It was pointing out the absurdity of "parades = evil".
You are really slow, aren't you.

>>15667
Jesus Christ...

Nobody thinks that all parades are evil.

At issue is whether or not a government should violently coerce civilians and others into being a part of a military parade structured such that opposition to it, and to the government, makes you a dissident and makes you perceived as committing treason.

I may be a Christian, but I'm not going to support literally putting a handgun to the head of somebody who's Jewish, Muslim, or whatever else and tell them "Accept Jesus as your Savior OR ELSE". Same thing here. It's not at all a difficult concept to grasp.

Using violent coercion to make people accept your own personal politics, personal religious faith, personal hangups about music, personal fixations about sex, or whatever else is a bad, immoral, and evil thing. MAGA should learn this. MAGA won't ever learn this. They should, though. It's not hard for normal people to understand.

It's difficult for me to put into words how truly stupid you guys are. "Just leave other people alone." It's one of the easiest moral lessons in the world, with literal toddlers being able to learn it.

But then you're MAGA, so I guess that it goes without saying.

*sighs loudly*

>>15668
Who's being forced to be in a parade at gunpoint?
That sounds absolutely made up.

>>15669
>>15668
So I take it the answer is "nobody".
Nobody was coerced through violence to be a part of a military parade.
This is just bullshit.

The main problem associated with the military parade was Trump threatening to use heavy force on anyone who so much as protests anyway.

>>15662
That is a very different context than the current one which also happens to align with Trump's birthday and coming with threats of great force against protesters though.
>>15666
They weren't the same, but it's foolish to overlook what the allies (mostly the UK) did as well. For example invading iran, occupying iceland, (neutral countries) dragging the colonies into the war, the questionable use of nukes on civilians, the many civilian causalities from intentional strategic bombing, and more I probably don't remember. Even more if you count what they did especially to colonies unrelated to or to help with the war. I would say both sides have enough to call their leaders "bad" going on but clearly the axis is worse but yes it was not the same. You could say a lot of things to justify these things happening and that's fine I guess, but I think it's also fair to say that these things weren't good. You may have to acknowledge that it is end justifies the means. In my view it's not wrong to look back with gratefulness and such for what the allies did (yes including the soviet union and their own evils I didn't mention). If you ask me the "real heroes" were the early anti-fascists, the volunteers to spain, the people willing to resist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEB7BkPsWOk

>>15687
>That is a very different context than the current
True! This one's the 250th anniversary of the creation of the US army.

Having a parade for such a thing is thoroughly reasonable.

>>15696
Are the threats?

>>15698
You might have a point if it wasn't coming from the person behind the military parade.

>>15699
A parade for the 250th anniversary of the US Army, an altogether unrelated event to the recent riots in California.

>>15700
I don't see how this is related to my saying that the guy hosting the military parade and what he says in relation to the military parade is related to the military parade. He was of course talking about hypothetical protests to the military parade and not preexisting protests.

>>15703
I'm not sure the specifics, but it's pretty clear regardless that the parade to commemorate the 250th anniversary of the army's creation was meant to commemorate the 250th anniversary of the army's creation. Not some kind of wild conspiracy of authoritarian threatening.