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What do white people have to do with Kirk?

>>15588
true, that is clearly not a diaper - a pullup, at best. completely unusable & a 5/10 cosplay of trump supporters -- oh wait, you said he was trying to own the libs?

...very interesting.

>>15739
>trump supporters
So like 60 percent of the country or whatever?

Or do you mean groups like the proud boys?

>>15740

...as in the portion of the 77 million adults who voted for trump (out of the approximate total 265 million adults in the united states)... excluding those who aren't allowed to vote, who voted for him ignorantly, ironically, nihilistically, negligently, randomly, or as anything more than the "lesser of two evils," so less than 29% of the u.s. adult population

>>15588
My sense is that way, way less than half of those who've not just voted for Trump but have in some way actively followed the guy's career (which makes them evolve from just being "Trump voters" to "Trump supporters") care at all about what're for the lack of a better term the "White Race Dudebros" or "WRDs".

I would actually bet money that the Trump supporters who care about WRDs are like, maybe, less than 10% of the whole. I'm not kidding. I would sincerely bet money on that.

These WRDs being terminally online guys with failed lives outside of social media who've used different platforms in order to become wealthy and famous in a certain degree because they view themselves as "Knights of the White Race that's been under attack" and "representatives of not just the best of what the White Race can be but what is saving the White Race".

I mean, look, let's be honest.

This is literally a matter of cosplay and roleplay.

This fursuiter:

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Is literally doing what Charlie Kirk and others (such as Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, David Duke, et cetera) do, only rationally. She's a human being pretending to be an animated character doing animated things in a real-life setting, making 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit?' into a quasi-documentary. And it's all for fun. She doesn't actually think that she's biologically a fox.

The problem is that people like Kirk actually are mentally unbalanced to some degree, and they actually think that they're some kind of metaphysical savior of some gigantic group. And LARP activities in public prove how great they are. It's actually kind of sad. Still, WRDs are more like background noise to a radio station or something... like... they don't really have political power. And they won't ever get it. They just have fuckloads of money and fuckloads of clicks/subscribers/whatever.

tl ; dr - Charlie Kirk is basically like a hardcore furry obsessive who's gone from drawing pictures just for fun to living in the woods trying to have sex with real wild animals

>>15742
>who voted for him ignorantly, ironically, nihilistically, negligently, randomly, or as anything more than the "lesser of two evils,"

You seem to be implying that any other reason of legitimacy to vote for him was invalid. Where are you getting 29% from out of these made up figures? 29% is certainly a step from 100% of those who supported Trump.

Let's assume it is 29% of people. That's roughly a 3rd. You want to call 265 million people babies, and yet you also want to downplay their overall support, because saying Trump won due to 2/3rds of memes,  ignorance, ect, and not the fact that 265 million people voted for him in various different parts of the country for their own legitimate reasons. Do you think 1/3rd of all Americans are diaper wearing babies?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8-vyRGkLiyQ

I supported Trump for my own personal values that Trump best aligned towards. That doesn't mean I think just because someone supported Biden/Harris that they were automatically stupid, immature, or diaper wearing man-children.

(Though it is funny considering after Trump won, you had entire herds of people posting themselves crying and talking about how upset they were that Big Daddy Donald won another election.)

In the 2024 presidential election, 73.6% (or 174 million people) of the citizen voting-age population was registered to vote and 65.3% (or 154 million people) voted.

> https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2025/2024-presidential-election-voting-registration-tables.html

77,302,580 of the actual votes that were officially documented and counted over to the final total were for Donald Trump.

> https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/2024presgeresults.pdf

I would prefer that people stop lying about these numbers.

Thank you.

>>15743

Yeah, the actual percentage is actually quite low. The two-party system stifles public discourse more than it creates loyalists. I believe that highly religious people are really just long-form LARPers and possibly BDSMers.

>>15744

perhaps i was a bit unclear. 77 million people voted for trump out of a possible 265 million people. This amounts to 29% of u.s. adults that voted for trump. out of that 29%, many were to sure to have voted for him who would have voted for any other republican -- so they don't really pay attention to or care much about trump as an idealogue, and maybe even politics in general -- i.e.: maybe they are mormon.

most people in the u.s. (about 75%) still believe in a personal god, meaning a significant majority of people likely have fundamental errors in their critical thinking skills, making them susceptible to critical thinkers (both religious and non-religious) who understand the way religious people operate better than religious people do themselves -- i.e. they can be easily taken advantage of politically.

i would say that you can come to a decision based on critical thinking to vote for trump, but if you also believe in your heart that out of all the possible political options and ideologies that him and his is the best there is (and everything democrats do is bad), then you're likely a seriously misguided individual and/or living in a vacuum, and/or in denial about reality.

>>15745

i don't think you should just consider the people registered to vote. every adult who is a u.s. citizen deserves the right to vote.

>>15755
The numbers matter little when your percentages are present.
>i would say that you can come to a decision based on critical thinking to vote for trump, but if you also believe in your heart that out of all the possible political options and ideologies that him and his is the best there is (and everything democrats do is bad), then you're likely a seriously misguided individual and/or living in a vacuum, and/or in denial about reality.
I feel like this statement is misleading.

But yes, I can see the point. Even if you don't like the democratic party, they can have good points. Even Hitler had good ideas.

>>15755
>>15756
Being registered to vote isn't the same thing as the right to vote, if we're talking exactly.

It's like how having freedom of religion isn't the same thing as actually walking into a church.

You can have the right to vote but actually making the choice to stand in a voting booth is on you.

Of course, me saying this doesn't mean that you guys are bad, wrong, stupid, evil, incorrect, or anything like that in the slightest, I'm just clarifying an idea without disagreeing with either of you.

>>15802
>You can have the right to vote but actually making the choice to stand in a voting booth is on you.

True, but the dominant social narrative is that people who don't vote don't count -- and how to get them to vote, while ignoring the possibility that them choosing not to vote was, indeed, their vote. Hence, why Trump thinks he has a mandate, even though if we use the figures provided (>>15745), he only received 174/x = 73.6%; x(73.6%) = 174; x = 174/0.736; x = 236.4: 77.3/236.4 = 32.7% of the vote. And of that 32.7%, how many fewer actually care that much about Trump or his ideology? As >>15743 suggests, that number could be less than 10%. This also doesn't include teenagers, many of whom are probably smart enough to vote and are certainly affected by public policy (one issue that comes to mind is that perhaps due to their lack of representation, they have to go to school with no financial incentive get good grades).

>>15832
Unfortunately for you literally none of that matters.

Since, as stated before, "73.6% (or 174 million people) of the citizen voting-age population was registered to vote and 65.3% (or 154 million people) voted" last time around, I don't agree with the assertion either of "your beliefs don't matter if you don't vote" or "it's popular to claim that your beliefs don't matter if you don't vote".

Like we literally just said and agreed, tens of millions didn't vote. Tens of millions. There are more 'not voting dudes' in America than the entire population of Denmark. Or Israel. Or other whole big places.

I can see somebody worth listening to making the argument "you have to vote" but it has be justified.

Same as saying: "R2-D2 is the best character in 'Star Wars'." It's not a crazy opinion. But it needs to be justified.

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Kill it with fire.

Dumbass duck.