/townhall/ - Townhall

I'm confused why you're straw-manning this so damn hard only to give away the act in the third part? But then you're still phrasing it like it's a coincidence and not that the name of the movement is a direct reference to the phenomenon.

Honestly I'm way less interesting in analyzing one of the myriad of minor healthcare labor movements that have existed since Socrates and more interested in psychoanalyzing your anger at nurses of all people. I'm not upset this has just ascended to academically interesting levels of intellectual dishonesty and now I want to know more about you.

>>15542
Nobody is strawmanning.

>>15542
I feel like this pattern of intellectual dishonesty is just par for the course in online political 'discussions'. They're not giving up the act in the third paragraph, by throwing out the bare minimum they can claim they're a neutral party. It's all part of the 'im just asking questions' script.

Tbh, it's best to not bother even engaging. They're not going to come clean and say "aww you got me! I had an agenda this whole time!". Even if you ask them nicely.

If OP actually wanted to start a balanced discussion then the burden is on them to frame the discussion in a balanced way. "What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence", in the same way a discussion which has made no effort to be balanced can be dismissed as unbalanced.

>>15543
OP frames the question in one paragraph as people refusing to "do their job" as though it is simple delinquency by nurses and not say 'demanding a safe work environment '.

They write a large list specific examples to create what seems like a weight of evidence, but is really just repetition.

while juxtaposing that against the paragraph "rise in the amount of assaults on nurses in 2025" as though it's merely an afterthought.

If you genuinely can't see the difference in framing between the two point of views, then you are either just going to become victim to this trap your self and let other people shape narratives for you.

or you are wilfully ignoring the difference in framing.

>>15565
In this case it isn't just a case of "Demanding a work safe environment" But rather an actual refusal to administer basic care. Regardless of how a patient is acting, you administer aid even if that means being an adult and asking for the appropriate aid needed to administer that aid.

Can you imagine if cops didn't go into a hostile situation (even though it is apart of the job description, which it is for nurses) and the police simply said "No." Without even calling for backup or the other resources they have at their disposal?

Let me ask you and the other guy what you would do if you were assaulted while trying to treat your patient and then they had to use the restroom? Would you refuse to do so outright, or get help with numbers?

Because if you just walked away, you don't deserve to be in the medical field.

I don't think there's a single poster here who cares about the state of the healthcare industry to be informed about this at all and yall don't disappoint

>>15540
If radical inflation keeps going on, and pay for jobs like teachers, nurses, repairmen, etc doesn't change one bit, then those people will suffer more and more in America as time goes on.

To learn more, listen to Hank Williams. Sure, he lived decades ago, but maybe nobody else in America "got it" as well as him.