No.15287
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The entirety of the right worldwide is centered around pissing people off at their own expense and literally nothing else matters to these scumbags. Any time they ask for a 'debate' they do so in order to fling shit they know is wrong and they don't care. Literally nothing matters beyond giving Trump power.
No.15303
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>>15287This is the result of individual and collective trauma. Science has shown that there can be significant changes in the brains of people who have a traumatic experience or live in a chronic stress environment, the most basic and obvious of which is rigid thinking and an inability to adapt to change. Trauma in childhood or chronic stress in later years can cause this.
Rather than seeking healing, a significant portion of Republicans are operating from and carrying out their daily lives from these low-grade neural connections. Most politicians at the top also had at least one traumatic childhood experience from which they base all of their actions; some, however, are not traumatized at all, and just get a sadistic pleasure at damaging the brains of the unsuspecting (although they would still err unwillingly). Next, there are middle-tier Republicans who have suffered trauma and/or stress but aren't smart enough to understand how damaged their brains are. Lastly, there are the uneducated Republicans, most of whom, unless they are lucky, are the most oppressed, usually by the same Republican leaders who think/say/claim they are helping them. A lot of these kinds of Republicans can be found in fundamentalist churches across America, although many of the more educated, because of their trauma, are able to trauma-bond with those across the educational and financial spectrum.
Per usual, the least educated are the most oppressed. The more discord that is generally sown, the more collective trauma there is, and so scientifically-speaking, the more the brain's neural connections get degraded, often (unless a person has a certain degree of self-awareness) unbeknownst to the person who is being affected. The more traumatized people are, the worse their decisions.
So, what about the Democrats? If Republicans are the party of trauma, then Democrats are perhaps the party of pampering.
But what is needed is a party of healing. There is currently no such political party. Hence, why politics are obsolete. There is, however, The Venus Project and other projects like them.
No.15305
>>15287I'd counter that the American right-wing is nothing if not extremely ideological.
It's a utopian ultranationalism based on the idea that straight white Christian cisgender people who aren't disabled are a kind of master race that built America, with the Founding Fathers being made up of their group exclusively, and they need to restore the U.S. to its former glory by purging society of degenerate, modernist elements ranging from LGBT people to disabled people to Muslims to Jews to Hindus and so on.
Once God's superior chosen people take their rightful place and uphold traditional values upon a populace without sin, the belief goes, then we will have economic progress. We will have social growth. We will have foreign policy achievement.
Trump as President is nothing if not an absolutist and ideological extremist, particularly since he's got Robert F. Kennedy Jr. using the U.S. federal government to enforce the belief that America has too many gay people, people with autism, transgender people, et cetera supposedly because of bad nutrition and chemical pollutants. Stuff like that, Republicans believe, turn little kids from heterosexual to homosexual and do other such things, with to them also ruins those children's lives forever through that mutation.
There's also all of the tough-on-crime and tough-on-immigration alongside tough-on-social-vice crusades done in order to purge American society of what the right-wing views as immoral, disgusting, and degenerate riffraff contaminants who as malformed people damage both social order and higher civilization, according to the Republicans.
And the need to exterminate social supports for disabled people, poor people, and others who're downtrodden by getting rid of Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, et cetera through Elon Musk's determined efforts is based an ideological conviction about biologically superior people owing nothing to biologically inferior people that basically speaks for itself (supposedly).
As hardline Christian fundamentalists have said for centuries, sin is evil. Evil is sin. Error is sin. Sin is error. Error is evil.
The only way to eliminate error, evil, and sin from society is to be ruthless: you must destroy those who violate God's holy doctrines without mercy, because you shall receive none from them (supposedly).
No.15308
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it's pretty ridiculous how the left have made out Trump to be and acted like the world is gonna end because of him.
Let's talk about Biden almost starting WW3
No.15314
>>15287I would've set forth the opposite. The left has not had a coherent position for a very long time now. Only tribalistic wagon-circling.
The right maintains its stances by large. And certainly argues on abject principle more oft than not.
No.15315
>>15305Nobody on the right even talks about disabled people. It's a non issue. Trump's hardly Christian himself, and certainly doesn't exemplify a particularly strong tie to the church. Race and orientation likewise have little to do with the rise of him and his supporters, as he's had a wider range of that support than any prior republican candidate yet.
This all exists in your own head man.
I've sucked dick, and yet I still voted for Trump three times now.
I will do so again in 2028.
No.15319
>>15308>muh bidenLmao shut the fuck up
>>15314No they don't
No.15323
>>15305>Once God's superior chosen people take their rightful place and uphold traditional values upon a populace without sin, the belief goes, then we will have economic progress. We will have social growth. We will have foreign policy achievement.>Muslims, Jews presented as being excluded from this ideologyI don't think you understand what a lot of Jews and Muslims in the world actually believe... those ideas aren't exclusive to some Christian extremists
Also, I've never heard anyone in my entire life blame homosexuality on malnutrition.
>>15321You read the post, but I don't think you understood them
No.15324
>>15319>muh bidenI mean, the Biden administration did do some shady stuff right before Trump got elected. You could have just talked about it rather than resort to just telling people to shut up.
Also, one last thing: you talk a lot about disabilities. I have nothing against people with them, but wouldn't it be arguable that avoiding them is better than not? Like I wouldn't want to be born without the ability to walk or anything.
With that said, I think handicap accommodation can be and is healthy for a society.
No.15327
>>15323Nah, I've heard enough
>>15324>The Biden administration did bluh bluh blahWho cares, Trump is doing worse shit now. You don't care. I'm calling a spade a spade
No.15328
>>15327>Nah, I've heard enoughIf you're just going to come into a thread, throw a tantrum, and tell people to "shut the fuck up" then you aren't really contributing anything to the conversation. Maybe you should follow your own advice?
>Who cares, Trump is doing worse shit now. You don't care. I'm calling a spade a spadeI would argue that almost starting WW3 with Russia is worse than anything Trump has ever done or said.
>>15314I blame old Tumblr echo chambers for that. People have moved on to various discord echo chambers and whatnot, but it's the same thing with far right extremists. Both side "Know they're right!" And if they can just get rid of the opposition everything is gonna be aaaaaall right!
Which is ridiculous. There's the far right pipe line of racists. And there's the far left pipe line of blaming all of your problems on white people and Christians.
No.15332
>>15328There's zero conversation to be had, you do not care
>>15328>Implying tumblr was an echo chamber>comparing terrorists to people who argue onlinelmfao
No.15333
>>15332You're putting words in my mouth and intentions behind them. I could just as easily call you a shill who is being paid to post and push for a specific political agenda, but that would be ridiculous. Sort of like assuming my intentions with such little to go off of.
>>15332Tumblr was an echo chamber. That is pretty much a universal opinion that has been backed up by its echo chamber like behavior from far leftist (and teenage girls faking mental illness alike.)
What terrorists are you talking about? Just because someone is far left or right doesn't make them a terrorist.
No.15336
>>15317Yes.
>>15319That's your opinion, I suppose. I don't have much substance in that response to work off of, however.
Why not give some examples? What do you feel the right has flopped on, for starters? How does that compare to their overall positions?
>>15321I like my life, actually. I've had a fair run of it as of late. The prior year was rough, but, 2025 so far has been looking up.
I've got a good job, my hobbies're starting to bear fruit, and I've even started a small company with my brother.
I have no cause to hate life. Nor do I see why my beliefs'd cause anyone to suffer or die. On the contrary, I would posit they aid many in this country.
No.15337
>>15328The problem with saying 'both sides' for me is that one is way more commonplace with the for lack of better word 'normies'.
Though then again, maybe it's just a loud minority. After all, Trump did win the popular vote.
> There's the far right pipe line of racists.To be entirely honest, I think this problem is one largely built upon left wing ideology more than anything.
When you start arguing on racial lines of 'oppressor' vs 'oppressed', it's inevitable people start looking at it in their own groups...
Race relations have spiked into the red post Obama. And that was after a while of 'I dont see color' type anti-racism.
I grew up in it. I didn't see a difference, as a kid, because nobody even taught me to be aware of it. Johnson, Cole Train, and others like them were just characters to me, no different to anyone else.
And that was echoed by most of those I grew up with.
I think most of the modern racism is just a snap-back response to the racism pushed for ages in a particular direction. An inevitable one at that, frankly.
No.15339
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>>15337I'm talking both sides of extremities. Both the far left and far right act extremely similar. They're both racist, ignorant, close minded and for a lack of a better word, R-Tarded. They both call for violence, think that the other side is completely unreasonable, and would much rather go through some South Park Mel Gibson torture rather than admit that the opposite side of the spectrum has a good idea or two.
I dont care if it's normie or not. Being someone centered seems to have the most reasonable people in its brackets, whether leaning a little to the left or right. Hell, sometimes 'normal' is better. Oh, and each side often calls for a purge. It always boils down to a good old fashioned purge.
When it comes to politics and simply good ideas (and this is going to sound like a dumb analogy but IDGAF) it's like being an MMA fighter. You can't just stick to one style. You have to pick individual pieces that work.
No.15341
>>15339There I would agree, then, yes.
The full blown extreme far right types (not neccessarily nazis, funny enough) are pretty much identical as far as the tribalism fuss goes.
"We can do no wrong", "no bad tactics" all that kind of thing.
No.15343
>>15342You really have nothing at all to say, do you?
It's just mindless, empty-headed tribalism.
Why don't you do something more productive with your life?
No.15345
>>15343>is gay, votes trumpnah bro u wanna die
>>15344nothing within my power is going to give you the tools to comprehend the world around you differently
No.15346
>>15345People disagree, and that's fine. They disagree all of the time. But there's a difference between disagreement and throwing a tantrum because you can't brainwash people into believing your own beliefs (which you haven't even proposed) through anger and insults.
Assuming someone wants to die because they voted for Trump without explanation, for example, is a display that you really don't know what you are talking about and are falling for Orange man bad propaganda.
I've explored both sides, as well as try to approach things from different perspectives. I choose and pick what makes sense to me and often challenge myself to see the opposition to my own personal beliefs.
No.15347
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Further more:
>nothing within my power is going to give you the tools to comprehend the world around you differently
I think this (along with your myriad of insults which I suspect span across various other related threads,) is a prime example of just what you intend to do. If you can't force someone to change you'll default to personal attack and flaming. I suspect if you had the physical capability, you'd even use violence to obtain your goals. Despite the fact that people probably already agree with a lot you have to say, or even just a little bit; if it isn't 100 percent it isn't enough.
But, you're the good guy aren't you?
No.15348
>>15345>"T-TRUMP IZ GIN RUND UP DA GAYZ!!! HE EBIL!!!"I think you're just a mite retarded, frankly.
Probably why all you've done here is give bottom bin shit posts.
No.15353
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>>15352Its a good thing I'm not.
However if we did eventually perfect bioengineering and designer babies, I dont really see the issue with that.
No.15357
>>15354What exactly's wrong about using technology to modify one's own children before birth?
I don't really see the issue with it.
No.15358
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>>15354Sorry to burst your bubble, but.. That isn't eugenicist. Biological engineering with test tube babies of the future isn't the same as selective breeding.
Let's assume we had sci fi levels of technology as such. Is there really anything wrong with wanting my child to have a near 100 percent chance to have zero deformities, a superior immune system, and genetics to make them as strong as an ox in accordance to their gender?
Or would I rather do it the good old fashioned way and risk defects? Imagine I chose the latter in this hypothetical and they were born without the ability to walk. Imagine if they found out I had the choice. What do you think they would think about that?
Let me get something straight: I dont despair the handicapped. I don't disdain them. They have my sympathy. Back in high school I actually used to defend the mentally handicapped when people would try to act like assholes to them. (Yeah there were idiots in high school. Big surprise.) I've even threaten to beat a few asses over it.
No.15360
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The right has....
Oh we are doing the "it is eugenics to want to correct malformities"
Shut the fuck up. I WISH my mother had the ability to keep my body from doing the shit it does.
And if you want to stop what you are describing stop letting the people with no media training be the ones speaking for the left.
No.15363
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>>15362I lean more towards the right and believe in universal Healthcare. (With the option to pay for better care.) Does it create longer waiting lists for the public? Sure. But at least you'll be seen at all.
You got a link for the story you're talking about? Sounds pretty messed up to me.
>Not that any of you fucks care in the slightest about people with conditions that you don't have, such is your pathological lack of empathy...I don't see a single person in this thread that even hinted at that.
>>15360To be fair, I don't think anyone here has media training. It's just people shooting the shit. I'm just getting on OP because they are flinging insults without substance.
Yeah, saying that's eugenics for wanting to keep malformities to and minimum is like on the same levels as "Dont fat shame me, healthy at all sizes!" In terms of thinking
>keep my body from doing the shit it doesWhat does your body do, if I might ask?
No.15367
I'll share the link... but like...
https://sandhillsexpress.com/cbs_national/nih-scientists-to-be-laid-off-despite-what-rfk-jr-told-congress-cbsid01c6bc39/God, why do I even bother talking to people like this lot, who have a mental illness level lack of empathy for others, especially since you honestly and sincerely all think that those born like I've been born ought to be dead due to me and those like me draining taxpayer resources and otherwise violating your ideological fanaticism about how capitalism must never be compromised, rich people should never pay more in taxes, corporations should never be criticized, and so on...
*sighs loudly*
Yeah, fuck me, I guess...
Me believing in universal healthcare for everybody in America who's an American citizen makes me an evil communist/Marxist/woke/socialist/Satanist/etc who should die... of course... according to you people...
Bye again... anyways...
No.15368
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>>15366Why don't you point it out then?
Because I don't see it anywhere.
>>15367Nobody is calling you those things what so ever. At least not here. You're the only one saying that about yourself.
No.15369
>>15368Yeah, right, like it's all fine and dandy to try and stop people from finding cures for fucking cancer and fucking Parkinson's Disease... all because your Daddy Trump told you to take those actions... and as idiot bobblehead sheep you obey without thinking...
Enjoy the taste of his cock in your mouth, I guess...
Meanwhile, I'll be staying alive, despite how badly you and people like you want me and people like me exterminated...
Me and my fellow biologically inferior individuals according to you Trumpists, regarded as Satanic communist woke Marxist whatevers are hanging in there... us supposedly disgusting and immoral types with our firm beliefs in universal health care and social goods based on the public interest... still fighting... still living...
Bye, bye! Peace!
No.15370
>>15369Are you actually reading my posts or hallucinating? Are you drunk or something? I feel like I'm talking to the text version of a soundboard.
I just said that preventing those treatments was messed up.
>Enjoy the taste of his cock in your mouth, I guess...Apparently trump is living in your head rent free because I didn't say anything about him.
No.15372
>>15363Oh yeah I get that this place is not for that I mean in the more broad political landscape of things.
My spine is malformed from birth and it makes walking very painful and holding a job hard. I hate feeling like a burden on people and wish that the option to scan for it and correct it before I was born.
So be super specific the bones that lock the spine with the hips never or only partially formed and it has been that way my entire life and I'm in the age where ignoring pain is harder.
>>15367>>15369This has to be bait at this point.
No.15373
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>>15372I'm very sorry to hear that. Believe it or not, if I could take your pain away for even a day, I would.
Thankfully, I've never had any issues as such, but I can imagine what you must go through on a daily basis. I'm also getting up in age.
Do you have a wheelchair or anything to assist you?
>I hate feeling like a burden on people and wish that the option to scan for it and correct it before I was bornWhile circumstances are different, I know what you mean. I also hate feeling like a burden. (Call it pride or what you may perceive it)
No.15374
>>15367I also believe it'd be better overall to have state-provided healthcare.
I also am going to vote for Trump in 2028.
Your fantasies exist only in your own mind.
No.15376
>>15373Same poster different device
I mean I think most people want others to be in less pain, it's the human response.
I have a cane. The other stuff is too expensive and I have enough bills.
And it is a pride thing. I dont think anyone likes not being able to do things.
No.15377
I'm going to vote for Trump in 2032
>>15376Fuck, this is why we need that universal healthcare. That and free education for college and trade schools.
I should run the country. I'm like Alexander the Great.
Funny enough, I could use a cane myself right now. I dont know what I did but I think I broke my foot. It was pretty bad yesterday, but today I am in agony. I can barely even put any pressure on it without wanting to Tom and Jerry scream
No.15380
>>15377Shit I am sorry anon. I know how awful that is.
I would try and ice it down and if it still hurts go to urgent care.
No.15382
>>15381No worries anon I hope you heal up well.
Oh...did we have a civil conversation in /townhall/
Shit I don't think we were supposed to do that.
Uhhhh.....You..uhhh...should have a good day.
FUCK
No.15383
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>>15382Impossible. The prophecy clearly states that if such an event were to happen, it could spell disaster for Ponyville. And I simple CAN NOT allow that to happen.. prepare yourself, for I shall strike you down, Gleaming Dragon!
No.15459
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How many scoops is too many?
