No.13482
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<Women are less intelligent than men. That means that women should have jobs that require much less mentally, such as working at home. This also protects men.>
Are all of these claims coming from many American football players the past few days correct? Are they wrong? What factual evidence exists to support these young athletic men's views, if any? Do you think that they're just being silly?
No.13491
>>13482American football players are not really experts in this area, i see no reason to investigate claims made by them.
More than being just silly, i would say they're being unintelligent themselves. I know there are some smart football players out there, but many players get into their school of choice not because they have a high GPA.
No.13493
>>13490Like even if there was a scientific basis for that, the idea that it makes women, or any race for that matter, unsuitable for any challenging tasks is preposterous.
> That means that women should have jobs that require much less mentally, such as working at home. This also protects men.Anyone who comes to this conclusion is just a braindead idiot.
No.13502
>>13499Thanks!
The first link is fascinating in that the author argues against a scientific consensus that there's no difference in average intelligence but the author also seems to be taking the position that the gap is so incredibly small, to the point of being less than 3 IQ points, that it's essentially meaningless practically even if it truly exists in a biological sense. To me, it's a tiny gap that's nowhere near the gigantic variance that would support the American football players' view that women should avoid paid work and stay in kitchens. I suppose the author's take even reinforces my personal view that the means for both men and women are likely the same.
I would look at the second but 'X' works weirdly on my phone so I suppose I'll not do that (no offense to you).
No.13503
>>13482If I recall correctly, women sit more in the middle of the curve of intelligence, whereas men make up the extreme ends.
So the stupidest people are oft men, as well as the smartest.
No.13505
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>>13502Yeah, that IQ gap is rather small.
Only major difference is in spatial reasoning.
>I would look at the second but 'X' works weirdly on my phoneHere's a screenshot of the tweet and the link:
https://mankindquarterly.org/archive/issue/61-2/9 No.13506
>>13503I could believe that.
>>13505Oh. I see.
No.13621
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Ah yes, the macho men of the world are telling us what women are and are not and a bunch of wannabe macho losers are believing it. A tale as old as time.
>>13496>>13505IQ doesn't define intelligence though. IQ is a measure of logical reasoning. To say logical reasoning is intelligence is to say a wheel is a car.
Women would outperform men in an accurate emotional reasoning test. That doesn't mean men are dumb, just that their expertise more naturally lies elsewhere.
Some of it's nurture, too. The existence of gender roles precludes any 'fair' analysis of either sex's intelligence. Women aren't always pushed to develop logical reasoning, just as men aren't always pushed to develop emotional intelligence.
No.14313
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>Are all of these claims coming from many American football players the past few days correct? Are they wrong?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI1wptoSLaMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJa7fTo1xmACompare the numerous achievements of men throughout history compared to women. Compare the numerous achievements in recent history by men compared to women.
On an individual basis a female can easily be more intelligent than a male. As a whole, men are a lot smarter than women. Those are the facts.
No.14316
>>14314Given how much the matter has been studied, if the average IQ of men was incredibly larger than women, then it logically would've been clearly found in countless scientific reports.
To be honest, I would consider a person today arguing that men on average have been smarter than women to be just flatly wrong in an objective sense about historical fact, the same as somebody claiming that Harry Potter was a real person or that Julius Caesar didn't exist is simply saying false things.
No.14321
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>>14313>>14314I think that's because for one reason or another, women tend to care more about what other people think of them and try to fit in. It's the same reason autism is harder to come by, or at least harder to detect, in them. So if they have a crazy idea, good or bad, they're less likely to follow up on it because of how it might make them look.
It doesn't mean they can't be that smart, it means they're predisposed towards other things. Also sexism exists.
>>14316>To be honest, I would consider a person today arguing that men on average have been smarter than women to be just flatly wrong in an objective sense about historical factIt's an incredibly myopic view of human history. The vast majority of societies have been male-dominated since the start of recorded history, with women largely forced into the roles of caretakers and glorified sex slaves whether they liked it or not.
So yes, of
course the great people of the Renaissance and the great inventors of the Industrial Revolution were men, a woman with the same ambitions would have had a herculean task on her hands to even
start. Putting it down to simple lack of talent is a brain-damaged take.
No.14324
>>14321If you're suggesting men don't think about what others think about them, then you are smoking crack. Why do you think the concept of honor exists among males? Especially in warrior cultures.
>sexism exists It's literally in a woman's instincts to feel dependant on a male. Again, women aren't inclined to take up jobs like fire fighter, EMT, electrician, ect because it's harder. And I wouldn't blame sexism. I've worked with people in all of those 'male dominant' fields and the men there think it's awesome when a woman can keep up.
That aside, women have made achievements in the last 200 years. It just doesn't measure up.
No.14326
>>14323Yes it absolutely does, are you insane?
There have been plenty of strides in reducing gender inequality in general, absolutely a lot, but it's still not perfectly equal tbh.
And even if it was perfectly equal
now, that wouldn't erase centuries of it existing in the first place. Centuries and centuries of inequality lead to numerous lasting consequences even if everything is on-the-books equal at the very moment (which is still not the case).
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I wonder if, even though the average women is as smart as the average man, nevertheless women tend to have their judgment more clouded by emotion?
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No.14365
>>14364>>14363Ya know?
People get so hooked up on science and looking at averages and such likes. Honestly, I don't want to waste too much times on facts.
But even if all those "facts" re true, is it beneficial to start gatekeeping aspects of society, because women / black people / ... are supposedly not smart enough?
If I am in urgent need of a medical professional, it seems stupid to go out and say that I want to be helped by a male doctor only. And it seems problematic to refuse women from positions of power because they're not smart enough.
And are we now supposed to ban women from setting policy that affect their lives, because statistically men know better?
No.14376
>>14365I'd just like to point out that the American Medical Association used to have a policy in America of working with Jim Crow laws in order to allow medical patients who'd rather suffer than be helped by a black person make that choice.
Don't take my word for it. Look it up. Is horrifying.
