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>>12506

Considering it's a game, pronoun selection would be considerd a part of the lore of the world. So long as Starfield is classified as a game, I see no basis for objection. Problems have arisen as a result of the blurring of lines between games and reality, such as in the case of microtransactions in video games (meta-decisions involving real money must now be made), the gamification of apps (makes it harder to differentiate between games and serious apps), and general advertising techniques.

It is a grift and always will be. They have either drank the flavor-aid or do it so chuds donate. It is right-wing virtue signaling.

>>12508
So, if your character is meant to be sufficiently alien, it might be OK?  I think you are meant to be a human in this game.

>>12509
You seem to dismiss concerns like this.  Do you see this as true for concerns about wokeness in general?

>>12510
>Do you see this as true for concerns about wokeness in general?
Define wokeness.

>>12511
>Define wokeness.
It has no definition that's widely accepted.  Perhaps my question is not well formed.

Why do you assess the particular controversy about preferred pronouns in Starfield as disingenuous?

>>12512
>Why do you assess the particular controversy about preferred pronouns in Starfield as disingenuous?
Character pronouns are automatically assigned based on body type selection and must be changed manually. Saying otherwise is an omission.
It is an extra option meant to expand the ability of the player to roleplay in their roleplaying game.

>>12513
Right, my understanding is it's an optional...option.  Its existence in the game software is causing distress, all the same.

>>12514
This is the same outrage homosexuality faced in the 90s and still does.
It was wrong and based on misinformation and fear-mongering by the aforementioned grifters.
The target changed.
Being mad about the ability to select your character's pronouns is the same as being mad about the ability to select your character's sexuality.

None of this is done out of genuine concern, it is again right-wing virtue signaling to line the pockets, of again, grifters.

>>12515
>Being mad about the ability to select your character's pronouns is the same as being mad about the ability to select your character's sexuality.
Yes...I think that is true.  Some people don't care for anything outside of heteronormativity.

>None of this is done out of genuine concern

You may be right, as it's nearly impossible to know someone's mind.  But then the targets of the grift are attending to the concern without a profit motive.  I suppose they can still be signaling their merit to their social circle, but why is this the signal people are looking for?

Am I being asked a question?



I am sorry you are upset about a character selection menu in a video game. It sounds rough.

But I do not know how to help.

>>12517
>Am I being asked a question?
I suppose it's more of raising awareness.

Thank you for your empathy.  These are difficult issues, yes.

>>12516
>Why is this the signal people are looking for?
Moral panic. It is again the same as it was in the past, the target changes but everything else is the same.

>>12521
People shouldn't have to be made to feel unsafe.  I think understanding and respecting that some people need the option to not have optional options related to gender identity is important.  Others, of course, may prefer optional options.  And then everyone can feel comfortable.

>>12522
If pronouns make you feel unsafe man I would recommend speaking to a therapist rather than complaining on the internet about how they hurt your feelings.

>>12524
Thank you for your consideration.  I find it best if I avoid the mental health industry.

I think that if political conservatives want to play video games without transgender people, black people, without Jews, without gay people, without disabled people, and so on, then there should be customizing options so that you can go about your game without encountering characters with darker skin shades or otherwise having your politics offended. Games are supposed to be fun. I believe.

I can't disagree more with their beliefs, but if this is them expressing them personally in private association and consuming private media, well, it's their right. That's that. Same thing with how going to a church or a book club or a ski lodge means the ability to kick out anybody for any reason no matter the justification. And how TV channels can refuse different things.

And, of course, if somebody walking down the street chooses to refuse to speak to any feminine man or any woman in a wheelchair, we would say that that's the individual's right? Yeah? I would think so.

>>12541
>n there should be customizing options so that you can go about your game without encountering characters with darker skin shades or otherwise having your politics offended.

It would be charitable of a game developers to always create a non-political version of games for those who prefer.  We have to accept that some people's existence is going to be political, but in my opinion nobody has the duty to not exist, even in fiction, so game developers don't have to make a game without some potentially offensive class of human.  But we also should try to be empathetic, minimize offense, and respect freedom, which is the basic idea behind your post.  I do agree with that.