No.1158128
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I think it's much more likely that this person who has never made a show like this before, where even Helluva Boss is a different sort of show, maybe just doesn't... really know how to do pacing correctly. And might learn how to do it better as time goes on.
Just a possibility.
No.1158131
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>>1158128I also thought some more about it and I'm thinking maybe she wants to develop the characters first and do it faster and then focus on other aspects of the show later.
It's really too early to say much about the pacing at this point.
No.1158196
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It's fun. A bit rough but really it's the first real outing of these characters.
No.1158243
Hazbin Hotel is the 2nd most streamed show on Amazon Prime right now!
and sitting at 86% critic score and an 89% among audiences on Rotten Tomatoes
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/hazbin_hotel/s01https://x.com/TheCartoonBase/status/1748705456086753692?s=20glad to see this show getting a great reception <3
and i will listen to "You're a Loser" on repeat <3
>>1158131this is what i'm predicting myself. if given a limited time, i think she maybe giving later elements more time to breath when they come
No.1158278
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>>1158243we got a commercial for it while watching tv with our parents and they cool with it until the cursing started lol
the commercial really does just have a guy going "FUCK YOU!" in it.
No.1158296
>>1158243I have been unable to stop singing Loser, Baby since friday.
I may have an actual illness
No.1158310
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I'll be honest, I've never watched one episode of this show nor Helluva Boss to its fullest. I'll make it a goal to watch one today. Can't hurt to try.
No.1158320
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>>1157992You know what.
I kinda enjoyed the 2019 pilot.
Cute and funny.
No.1158322
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>>1158243Keith David is a treasure.
No.1158327
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I always instinctively turn my nose up at 'adult' cartoons. Like I instinctively figure they're all haha funny dick jokes for mature people. It's adult because it's inappropriate for children, not because it's actually made with deeper themes in mind.
I have no idea whether Hazbin is that kind of 'adult' cartoon or not. But Astra Bolt of Ponychan fame streamed some of the songs from YouTube for me yesterday and Jesus Christ I did not know Captain Anderson Mass Effect could sing like that. What the fuck. Shit's amazing.
No.1158363
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>>1158327Helluva Boss actually has some pretty grownup emotional stuff in it. And there has never been a more grownup show on TV than
Bojack Horseman. Check out this clip-- (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt21dU5Pu8g)
--which is part of a dream sequence going through Bojack's dying brain as he lies at the bottom of his Hollywood swimming pool. The poem is being recited by Bojack's idol, Secretariat, who committed suicide by jumping from a bridge when Bojack was a child.
Now that's adult content.
No.1158367
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>>1158366Bruh. Damn.
>>1158363Yeah, I don't know. I think it's partly because those kinds of things didn't exist when I was growing up, and partly because my taste in media is pretty childish itself.
>>1158364It was discussed in the cringe thread a little, but my thoughts are basically 'the cringe thing is that he went bankrupt over it, not that he did it'.
No.1158403
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>>1158367To be fair he's not gone Bankrupt. The guy who orderd and paid for the animation is a multi millionaire
Which if anything proves that money can't buy you sense
No.1160918
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>>1160912I haven't even tried it yet for this reason. I was already on the fence about it, but learning it was a musical really put me off.
My main group of friends say the music is mediocre. Other people say they love it. I'll probably be on the former's side.
No.1161097
I'm still going to give it a shot soon, but I've seriously gotten the sense as a writer and artist myself (with a lot of creative anxiety) that the 'eight deadly words' may apply to this show for everybody not named "Charlie":
> https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EightDeadlyWordsYet I want to give any famous musical a decent chance! I really do!
W.r.t. musicals in general, one of my favorite songs ever is one of that I actually just came across lately
about a racist white woman in the U.S. south who attends an integrated church and thus gives up on her old beliefs (warning that, emotionally, this is like being smacked by a baseball bat upside the head in bluntness terms) titled "Change Don't Come Easy":
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>>1161097I love musicals conceptually, most of them I can't stand but here's a few that are good
The Fiddler on the Roof
Chicago
The Toxic Avenger Musical
Phantom of the Opera
that's about it.
No.1161233
I feel like the key to succeeding in a musical is a)be ridiculously over-the-top and melodramatic in the sense of being the wish-fulfillment at the audience craves deep down and also b)play everything completely straight so that no matter how comedic, offbeat, weird, et cetera happens it's all heart.
This is a great example: there's no way really that it makes logical sense. Playing upbeat r&b music loudly in public will make schoolgirls in a fiercely segregated neighborhood start playing together? Let alone the radio's power makes local teenage dudes start dance fighting each other in a way that ends all dramatically happy? And yet. It works.
Admittedly, one of my biggest hang-ups in not wanting to get into either 'Hazbin Hotel' or 'Helluva Boss' beyond my casual interest in the past is that they're about extremely serious and prickly issues such as anxiety, child abuse, depression, homophobia, and transphobia plus even more. As well as the broader context of violent religious divisions coming up. Which like I feel that you should only get into in musicals if you're extremely well-thought out in what you say on those subjects. I genuinely hate it when you have something like 'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles' or 'Spider-Man' cartoons releasing episodes for kids about like, say, people contracting HIV/AIDS or other really serious subjects that're all glib and poorly treated due to lazy writing (i.e. "Man, this AIDS thing really sucks! I'm buying you a pizza, dude!").
No.1161362
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>>1161358That's a classic, can't believe how old it is already.
No.1161373
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>>1161206What about Hamilton?
It's got rap music.
No.1161378
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>>1161373Hamilton's fine, I guess. It's got maybe 2 or 3 songs I think are good.
No.1161399
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>>11613782 out of 46 ain't bad! We'll make a musical lover outta you!
No.1161418
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>>1161399I do already love musicals, they just have to be worth watching or listening to.
No.1161447
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>>1161441>16 full length songs over just 8 episodes of only 20 minutes each. That's nearly a third of the show's runtime dedicated to just singing.I'm like:
>Yeesh.
No.1161453
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>>1161441TWO PER EPISODE?! THATS INSANE WHAT
No.1161474
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>>1161441>>1161447>>1161453they are fucking phenomenal songs though, and it is a musical, so music is sorta implied in the show
if it ain't your cup of tea, that's fine, but it would be weird to have a musical with less music
No.1161561
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>>1161547Ooh I love Wicked <3 I saw that live in Denver many many years ago!
And if you are coming from Helluvaboss to Hazbin Hotel, they do have very different energies despite being the same universe. That being said, Disney princess in hell is my crack for sure! I wouldn't mind getting a Charlie tattoo, although that will have to wait till I'm more financially stable
No.1161623
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>>1161561I'll give you one for free let me just break some pens first
No.1161626
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>>1161623oh hell yeah! thank you roxie <3
where should i get it?
No.1161647
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>>1161626you should get CHARLIE tattood across your knuckles with a heart at the end
but idk maybe on your upper arm?
No.1161648
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>>1161647I'm hoping to get 1776 in Roman numerals on my back one day. I'd think that would be fuckin' dope.
No.1161651
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>>1161647knuckle tattoos would be cool, but hand tattoos tend to fade much quicker than other types
i wouldn't mind getting it on my upper arm though! she'd look great!
OOOOH I KNOW!
Charlie on one shoulder and Emily on the other!
that way i have a shoulder demon and a shoulder angel!
No.1161690
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I wonder... what about getting knuckle tattoos that would have actually useful information on them?
What about a tattoo that depicts part of a street map? Or the entire layout of some location? Or a tattoo detailing somebody's birthday, being done on the behalf of somebody who matters to you a lot? What about a set of numbers to help remember a "Wi-Fi password" somewhere?
No.1161711
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>>1161651This is the best thing. You should totally get it.
No.1161718
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>>1161711right? although i probably should Vaggie in there too so she doesn't kill me!
No.1161725
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>>1161719oh that would be perfect XDD
it would be interesting to see my partners face if they are back there, and they are confronted with scowling vaggie XD
No.1161778
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>>1161745as a girl with a dick, i don't got much options down there
