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 No.6941

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Can we just get rid of /townhall/ and have a sweeping ban on politics in general already?

In fact can we just get mods who have a spine to recognize that other users threats to be uncivil if politics are brought up at all and shifting blame for their shitty behavior is a form of abusive manipulation?

 No.6942

A fair amount of people enjoy /townhall/ and if you find users insulting or attacking one another, you should report it. You're also welcome to not use /townhall/ if the subject matter is troubling for you

While there are many forms of abusive manipulation, you'd need to cite specific instances for that latter question

 No.6943

>>6942

Mostly thinking of this double standard you seem to hold when in the past few weeks/months, chain wall makes political threads on /pony/ but barely seem to respond to them but respond to when someone like LP does it, as if your afraid to offend chainwall.

 No.6944

>>6943
I admit that some of my threads in the past couple of months came close to the line, but I tried to keep them non-political.  Making a thread to pay last respects to a recently deceased jurist widely esteemed by members of both major parties is different than celebrating a partisan victory in an election.

 No.6945

>>6943
One major difference is that chainwall threads are tonally neutral. Whether it blows up comes down to other users interacting properly in that space or not. The threads made by others were not neutral, they would reasonably be upsetting to certain users.

I wouldn't try to make your point by saying that chainwall has privileges others don't. I would come at this from the perspective that strict neutrality isn't a great site policy in these times and that not all political ideas are equal.

 No.6947

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>>6941
>threats to be uncivil if politics are brought up at all
>is abusive manipulation

Fuck yes it is.

Like how who won the presidency is out of bounds.  Its a current event.  Some people dont like that event.  The same people who got their day to dance in the streets a few years back, and now they are just sore losers.  So we cant discuss who the fucking next president is.

Absurd.

Yes, mods who can see the difference between banning politics and banning current events would be useful, if we had any.

 No.6948

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>>6947
The threads against which the mods took action were celebrating the result of the election --- the thread OP was implying "it is good that candidate X won and candidate Y lost", which invites disagreement and the sort of political animosity that the no-politics rule seeks to avoid.  A thread topic such as "How (if at all) will Joe Biden's election affect your stock-investing strategy?" would probably have been allowed.

 No.6949

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Knowing how volatile politics are on Ponyville and how sensitive people can be, people should know to go to /townhall/ when they want to seek arguments and debates out and stay on /pony/ when they don't feel like.

A dedicated politics mod could be interesting for /townhall/, but I don't think there is any reason to scrap the board.

>>6947
That to me is a different point.
While every thread can be political in one way or another, we should still be careful to keep themes that incite political discussions and arguments on /townhall/ to avoid bringing the polemic to the leisure boards.

While elections and their outcome can be exciting and be approached with silliness, it simply is too big a hazard to keep on /pony/.

I'll leave it at the mods discretion what they want to move, although i'll be salty when my threads would fall there as well.

If you feel like making a thread to celebrate election results, it would be better to create a celebration thread and let people post celebration stuff. But not to mention politics or bring up the subject.
And, probably not sassilly bringing up politics anways.

 No.6950

>>6949
Yes, take discussion to the toxic no-name board.  Where people who have names can ignore them.

>>6948
Yes i appreciate how you feel tonally neutral while discussing AK47s as entities who are equal in ability to suffer as people.  So i don't think your way is a good role model.  

I can CELEBRATE my candidates victory as a current event that is going to stop a very real loss of life.  If the new president promised to setup some emergency healthcare for AK47s then maybe you would understand why these particular words have a real meaning to some.

Further Manleys thread had none of the escalation mine did and his went straight to /rock so its dusinformation to say that my tone is why current event topics are being trashed by mods.

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>>6950
>Yes i appreciate how you feel tonally neutral while discussing AK47s as entities who are equal in ability to suffer as people.
When I speak of "gun rights", I don't mean that guns themselves have rights; I'm referring to the right of people to possess and carry guns.

>>6950
>Further Manleys thread had none of the escalation mine did
But it was still implying "it is good that candidate X won and candidate Y lost", which predictably annoyed those posters who had voted for candidate Y.

 No.6952

>>6951
You know i am not talking about gun rights, Chain.  I know you remember and so does everyone else.

Manley implied no such thing, or did my description of his thread not make that clear?  

 No.6953

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>>6948
So the problem was my stinking attitude, only.

Shall we make a test?

https://ponyville.us/pony/res/1064316.html#q1064316
You know i do love u Chainwall u silly pony.

 No.6954

>>6952
>You know i am not talking about gun rights, Chain.
Well, what are referring to, if you're not rehashing [>>>/townhall/7865, >>>/townhall/7872, >>>/townhall/7880, >>>/townhall/7882]?  I've never said anything remotely like "AK47s [are] entities who are equal in ability to suffer as people".

>>6952
>Manley implied no such thing
Interpreted literally, his post didn't imply it, but he appears to have been using the rhetorical device known as praeteritio.  

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>>6954

NOW how bout that.  It wasnt just me that is out of line.  What do you think chain?

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>>6953
>So the problem was my stinking attitude, only.
No.  The problem (as I said in >>6948) is that your thread "invites disagreement and the sort of political animosity that the no-politics rule seeks to avoid".

>>6955
Come on, you didn't really think that that thread wouldn't fall under the "no politics" rule, did you?

 No.6979

>>6958
Of course i did.

Im stupid.


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