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 No.3473

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Good evening, pony friends! Your staff has been very hard at work, designing a new experience for the community, here on Ponyville.

https://ponyville.us/townhall/

We understand there's a lot of controversy about intense discussions on the website. Some users would really like a place to have in-depth debates about various controversial subjects.

Others come to /pony/, however, to find some relief from the day to day difficulties that these subjects can bring up!

/townhall/ is a forced anonymous board that is designed for debates, dialectics, and discussions of a serious nature, with its own tone, and its own rules!

This means as well that we'll be expecting that sort of content to migrate over to townhall, though of course less-serious debates and discussions are always welcome on /pony/.

If you think your discussion or debate might end up in a shouting match, try bringing it over to /townhall/ for some nice, rational discussion.

Try it today, and let us know what you think ^^ We'll be adding it to the top bar later in the coming week.

Thank you, my little ponies!! And a special thank you to Starshine (!!CocoPommel), and Thorax, for helping us put the board together.

 No.3474

If a friendly debate on /pony/ becomes too heated, will it be moved to /townhall/?

Also, will the same rules against endorsing racist or bigotted ideologies be enforced there?

 No.3475

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>6/1
>threads in full swing already populating it
Well now I'm intimidated.

 No.3476

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>>3475
that's just a test thread!

>>3474
No, it won't be. The rules on /townhall/ are exacting and different. The thread would be locked, like usual.

But, if that's where the thread might go, it would be wise to start it in townhall to begin with.

 No.3477

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Also the rules pertaining to the board itself (which can be found in the board's sticky):
1) All posts in a given thread must contribute constructively to the conversation, whether agreeing or disagreeing. Off-topic, contentless, inflammatory, or hostile posts will be deleted and result in a ban.

1a) Derails that occur as a natural result of discussion progressing from the original subject will generally not be interfered with; however, if these hinder discussion of the original topic, making a new thread is preferred.

1b) Part of contributing constructively is understanding and addressing the reasoning behind an opposing view. While this can be a tedious task and will generally not be officially enforced, please make an effort to at the very least avoid "talking past" someone when presented with a counterargument. Simply doubling down on your initial point does not advance a discussion.

1c) Be as willing to "lose" as you are to "win", and above all else, be willing to learn and understand. You will not get the most out of this board if your only goal is to persuade, and you will not even be effective at that unless you understand what you are arguing against.

2) Ad hominems and other uncivil behavior will not be tolerated. You may have a significant personal stake in some subjects discussed here, and it is normal to be frustrated when someone cannot relate; however, lashing out is not an effective way to engender sympathy for your position, and will not advance the conversation in a constructive way. Even if you find someone's argument morally abhorrent, there are constructive ways to express this.

2a) Attempting to deliberately provoke an uncivil reaction is prohibited, even if it is done within the letter of the law.

2b) Snark and other forms of mockery are strongly discouraged and may result in warnings or bans.

2c) "Strawmanning" an "opponent" deliberately will be regarded as uncivil conduct and will be dealt with accordingly. This will not apply to genuine misunderstandings.

3) While we do not claim to be arbiters of absolute moral or empirical truth and aim to moderate this board in a fair and even-handed, politically agnostic manner, the following extreme positions are considered "off-limits" regardless of how they are put forward, including attempts to "hint" or dogwhistle:

genocide or ethnic cleansing of any kind
calls to violence
dehumanizing rhetoric

Controversial, "politically incorrect", or unpopular opinions aside from the aforementioned are allowed, provided they are presented in good faith, and not in violation of any other rules.

4) While we do not expect you to have a PhD-level understanding of everything discussed here, we do encourage a modicum of rigor in fact checking. Mistakes happen, but habitually making uncorroborated claims, spreading false information, or misrepresenting facts may result in warnings followed by bans. Blatant bad-faith misrepresentation will be dealt with more harshly than honest mistakes.

5) Unless otherwise stated, assume that all rules outlined in >>>/rules/2 (OP) apply here as well, but with stronger enforcement.

6) As the standards on this board are very high, enforcement measures taken here will not be considered part of your "record" elsewhere on the site, except in the case of First Degree violations.

Hopefully standards like these can keep all topics open to the Ponyville community and we can continue providing space for all the diverse needs of our community.

 No.3478

>>3476
Understood.

While I have your attention, Moony. I'd like to voice some concerns. A very close eye needs to be kept in this board during the experimental phase. We need to be careful that false information is not spread and that bigotted ideologies are not propagated on the board. You are familiar with 4chan's /b/ and /pol/ board, correct? Those places are notorious for harboring racist and bigotted people and attitudes, but they were not created with that goal in mind. They simply did not monitor or control that, and they quickly took over the board. It is important we do not let the same happen to this board.

I see some of the rules for it address this, but it's something to keep in mind. The board needs to be scrutinized closely.

 No.3479

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>>3473
(1) Please add /townhall/ to the boardlist in the upper-left hand corner.
(2) In regard to forced anon: It seems that each poster is assigned a per-thread unique animal name.  Am I understanding that right?

 No.3480

>>3479
We can't add the link from the gui. And I'm away from home for the weekend.

You are understanding it correctly.

 No.3481

>>3473

Yuck.

But, maybe it will be a solution.

 No.3482

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>>3477
You know it's gonna be "easy" to set up these rules but a lot harder to maintain these while allowing controversial topics, right?

 No.3483

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I pass.

I don't have time to debate in a  "patient" and "constructive" way because afterall I don't know how to debate.

Also I need to pay attention what is happening in my country. Like I don't have  time and interest to debate american political issues. I have my own political issues to deal.

>Others come to /pony/, however, to find some relief from the day to day difficulties that these subjects can bring up!

Not really... in my perspective lately Ponyville is flooded with spam silly threads without like good ideas or constructive social actitivies with the purpose to unite this community. I don't know what is the real purpose of an Imageboard site. Right now Ponyville feels more like Facebook about posts sharing my feels and pictures of pets.

Nothing personal.

Unless is a good idea to move threads with that  caliber to another section/board so /pony/ will have less traffic in being flooded with tons of threads.

 No.3484

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>>3483
What type of threads do you like?

Honestly, the reason I've been doing kind of mundane 'music' threads lately is because I've been so tired. I want to talk with people, but I don't have the motivation to make a more thoughtful thread.

But I've been missing that writers guild thread and the anime threads.

 No.3485

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>>3484
Generally I'm going to say threads about Geek stuff.
However I can be open minded in like joining a thread about topics I'm not being very used to talk about but only if is a very well made thread.

> lately is because I've been so tired.
Kinda busy with everything huh?

 No.3486

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>>3485
>Kinda busy with everything huh?

Yea. Trying not to be, but yeah.

>but only if is a very well made thread.

Maybe I can make something happen later in the week.

I need a day to just get out of the real world for a couple hours, maybe that will make a nice distraction...

 No.3487

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>>3486
I see, don't overdo it.

Ok I'm going to check and post it there.

 No.3488

As one of the people who was excited for the release of this board, I'd like to remind people to please maximize effort put into posts on this board.

It feels very bad, to put a lot of effort into having a discussion, if half-baked takes and claims that should be sourced but aren't, are included as responses to this topic.

Please contribute with the same or more rigor as those currently having a discussion, as this will make the experience better for everyone involved.

 No.3489

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Neat.

 No.3490

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Can /townhall/ be part of the linked boards?

For my GUI, it looks like a hidden board, so we'd only know about it as long as the sticky exists.

 No.3491

>>3490
That seems to be the plan, as soon as Thorax gets back home and has some time to
ssh
into the server.   >>3480

 No.3492

Will it be like 4chan rules wise?

 No.3493

>>3492
>Will it be like 4chan rules wise?
No; see http://ponyville.us/townhall/res/2.html

 No.3494

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>>3484
>missing the writer's guild thread

sorry. Between myself and Ellie we usually kept it running, but I've been so out of sorts lately I've not kept it up, and I haven't seen Ellie in ages. I'll see if I can drum up a post and get it up and running again.

 No.3495

>>3494
>Haven't seen Ellie in ages

I...I just changed my name slightly ;_;

I didn't even change my trip D;

 No.3496

It sounds interesting

 No.3497

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>>3495
oh hi. I didn't notice it was you

 No.3498

>>3497
Lol

Hello old friend

 No.3499

oh finally a containment board >:3

 No.3500

>955423
Kek

 No.3501

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>>3477
>2b) Snark and other forms of mockery are strongly discouraged

Well that leaves a lost pony out.  I have no purpose on the internet aside from snark and mockery.

Sup Dashie.

 No.3502

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>>>/townhall/3
>calls to violence
I assume this refers to illegal violence by non-state actors, and it doesn't prohibit arguing that, e.g., the US should go to war against Syria or Iran, right?

 No.3503

>>3502
Correct.

 No.3504

Right now town hall is getting a good amount of traffic. But I worry that, after the novelty wears off, people might stop regularly visiting, and then it will become a ghost town.  In the old Ponychan, there was an Overpony board that collected threads from all the boards.  Maybe something like that would be helpful. Or maybe some of the latest activity (if any) on Town Hall could be snapshotted on /pony/.  Or I guess probably the easiest solution would just be for someone to make an ad hoc tread on /pony/ notifying of a new thread on /townhall/ so that people are aware to check.

 No.3505

>>3504
Honestly think it will get more use than /rp/.

Also I like the rp board even though I never use it, hope nobody takes this as me saying we should get rid of the rp board.

 No.3506

>>3473
What an excellent idea!

Only.... er...... there are names there so.... that kind of defeats the anonymity angle?  Which is a massive shame as anonymity breeds honesty.

 No.3507

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>>3506
I think it's mostly to keep track of who is talking in a particular thread.

If I am remembering right, I think the name changes when you enter a new thread.

 No.3508

>>3507
They do. You have a thread-specific animal name.


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