No.1164012
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>>1164009the answer to that is very simple
a tomboy is a girl who has a more masculine wardrobe and demeanor
so if you are a girl and you like a tomboy then that means you have a same sex attraction to them
if you only have same sex attraction them as a girl and no other gender, then that is gay
so if you are a girl who likes only tomboys or only people that identify as girls, then you are indeed gay
now if the person in question is a non-binary tomboy, then that is a bit more nuanced, but ultimately if you match the gender of the tomboy in question and only are attracted to people of that that gender, then that is gay
if you do not match the gender of the tomboy you are attracted to, then you are not gay, cause even if they did like people of the same gender, this one instance shows that they have at least a small amount of hetero interest, even if it's in a homoflexible status
and the beauty of this is that you can put in any sort of type and check it!
as long as the attraction is the same gender and exclusively that gender, it's gay! if it's not, then it's not!
unless you are talking about the umbrella of Gay as in the LGBTQ+ community, then nuance may vary
and if you are a guy who's laughing telling other guys that liking tomboys is gay because they aren't "traditionally feminine" then you are an asshole :))
No.1164013
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>>1164009Tomboys are girls. If you're attracted to girls and you're a guy you're either straight or bi. If you're attracted to girls and you're a girl you're either gay or bi.
Like there's no ninth-dimensional Chinese checkers going on here. A feminine guy is a guy. A masculine girl is a girl. It's in the definition. It's literally that simple.
No.1164014
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No, no, yes several, none.
No.1164016
>>1164009>>1164012>>1164013I think a snag here is that a person with "the tomboy aesthetic" or whatever one wants to call it is kind of like experiencing a "hobby", "lifestyle", and "subculture" the same way that somebody can be a goth rock musician with "a real goth aesthetic".
And so like, well, I guess you could call a cis bi man or a cis gay man "a tomboy" technically if he's deliberately wearing specific footwear, legwear, armwear, headgear, make-up, and/or whatever else in order to, say, look like a rocker from Joan Jett and the Blackhearts.
So asking me, personally, "Is being attracted to somebody rocking the tomboy lifestyle 'gay'?" is sort of like asking "Is being attracted to a fursuit-wearing furry 'gay'?". Well, it depends. Are they the same sex as you? You can't necessarily tell just by a first glance in public!
>>1164014None? No hopes in terms of the future? Why is that?
I'd be one of your girlfriends and date you, honestly, if we ever came across each other in person!
No.1164019
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>>1164016I don't really care for going on dates, that's why. So I don't really look forward to dates or have hope for dates in the future. I'll spend time with my partners if they want, but I don't really care much about the act of dating.
No.1164024
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>>1164012>and if you are a guy who's laughing telling other guys that liking tomboys is gay because they aren't "traditionally feminine" then you are an asshole :))>>1164013>Tomboys are girls. If you're attracted to girls and you're a guy you're either straight or biYup, and that guy arguing "liking tomboys is gay" got thoroughly dunked on. I'm actually a bit surprised people took seriously enough to talk about it, lol.
No.1164025
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Oh, I almost forgot to mention! This tomboy discourse started from someone trying to dunk on country girls with Southern accents:
https://twitter.com/SameeraKhan/status/1766262871971835967I half-suspect such people are trolling engagement bait for Elonbux.
No.1164026
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>>1164024>Alex Jones defending gender diversity in self-expression.Gives me the same vibes as this comic book moment:
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>>1164016I don't know. I can't say I've ever met a tomboy I didn't recognise as a girl before.
Personally I think biological sex matters less to most people than societal ideas of what's 'masculine' and what's 'feminine' do. It'd explain why so many otherwise straight men are into femboys/traps. Like, it turns out most people don't wave their junk around unless they're doing sexual things, and those usually happen behind closed doors anyway.
At least that's how I explain my sexuality. I like what comes across as feminine, dick or otherwise. But also being a girl automatically classes you as feminine so I like tomboys as well.
>>1164025Women should be banned from doing manual labour because men are better suited to it and women should be able to sit on their butts and be served all day no I don't have any deep-seated sexism possibly stemming from a general lack of any enduring male presence in my childhood and my personal issues with being born male in general what are you talking about.
Ahem.
I appreciate that this woman is trying to... I guess safeguard the concept of femininity by gatekeeping what it means to be female? But generally speaking when that train of thought was commonplace it was a fucking awful time for women everywhere. So I have to question her wisdom in the matter.
No.1164028
>>1164027I think that dividing "biological sex" related terms from "gender identity and expression" related terms is generally really helpful, with something like "tomboy" being entirely or almost entirely expressive without a clear-cut connection to specific body parts.
Admittedly, there's still the fact that the English language is complicated, and biology in general is complicated, so that kind of "blue bucket versus red bucket" clean division that I'd like to have exist doesn't really exist.
There's also the question of something like "mind and soul". For me personally, my biology is like 100% male while my self-expression is like 75% male. Which grates rather extremely badly against me having a mental identity and psychological orientation that's like 25% male. I'm so far, far from alone.
I suppose that regular schools of philosophy going back to Plato and other such Greco-Roman figures always claimed that "body", "mind", and "soul" were three very distinct and separable parts of a human being, so there's that.
>If I had a choice, I'd without a second of hesitation personally shed having a material body forever throughout the rest of time and become a pure spiritual entity. I'd actually even rather be a spirit being than be a cisgender woman living the stereotypically happiest life that she can in modern America today. That's me, though.< No.1164033
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>>1164027>I appreciate that this woman is trying to... I guess safeguard the concept of femininity by gatekeeping what it means to be female?Personally, I suspect Samirah has a monetized account and is just baiting engagement. Or it could just be intrasexual competition, trying to raise her own status by putting others down.
No.1164035
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I suppose there's a difference between tomboys and transmen for example.
Tomboy's are more about the judgement a society makes about a person, based on gender rolls.
Transmen are more about what a person thinks about themselves.
For being gay/straight/bi to me is about what is between your partner's legs for the most part, definitely if there is a desire to be sexual. Sex to me is about the logistics of the whole thing.
But I imagine in a platonic way things can be more confusing. If a transman presents as male with all the actual physial male traits, then I suppose being attracted to one falls within the realms of a sexuality.
If I, as a man, fall in love with a transwoman who presents well as female, then I would not step outside of being straight.
But if I stay attracted knowing full well that she still has male genitalia, that may require a review of my sexuality?
Then I assume pansexuality may as well be a thing, if people can have a different set of a genitalia than what they actually present as.
No.1164049
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Some people think this is a tomboy?
No.1164051
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The word "kinda" emphasize that it's not entirely, but partially.
So if "being gay is kinda gay" means the opinion/perspective of it is not as much as the actual thing in observance.
It's like calling a bonfire "warm".
No.1164081
>>1164049yeah i mean she gives off the vibe that you can do most of the lads' stuff with her
plus heterosex
No.1164092
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>>1164049Not exactly a full-on one, but she definitely has attributes. It's easy to see why some wouldn't see her as some though, considering some episodes have her partake in beauty stuff.
No.1164095
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>>1164049She's literally described as 'the tomboyish mermaid' in her gym, I think.
Also she's athletic, dresses like one, and can be pretty fiery at times. Close enough.
No.1164102
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>Have you gone out on a date lately in person?
It serves me no benefit to go on a date unless that individual really butters my croissant.
>Have you hung out with other LGBT+ people offline?
Yeah, they're not terribly uncommon.
>Are you in any relationships right now?
Technically.
>What hopes have you for dating in the future?
To be a dominating mistress for a very special someone.
No.1164103
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>>1164095She's a swimmer, she has a feisty personality, and she dresses like
what? Tomboy alert!
No.1164141
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I tried looking at an LGBT+ personals type thing Monday... sent one message... really will try to be more active today...
No.1164158
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>>1164101See the problem with like every porn game where you play as a girl is that it's just that.
"Hey, do you want to see this cute girl get raped by a goblin, and also a dragon, and also twenty slimes, and also an octopus?"
Nay, cur. I wish to
femdom the monsters. I wish to exemplify the yoke of man over beast. If a monster is to penetrate me it is to be because
I bade it thus. What in the Lord's name art thou talking about?
No.1164166
>>1164158Yes, exactly. The trope is pretty mockable for a reason.
On the plus side, there are certain text-heavy games with a lot of customization
(such as 'Lilith's Throne' and 'Trials In Tainted Space') in which you can play as cis-femme or trans-femme adventurers roaming around exotic places who freely express a dominant and even, dare I say, conquering personality type.
No.1164191
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>>1164166I haven't heard of the former and haven't played the latter, but I did play CoC briefly.
Weird game. Not sure why it was so popular, honestly. Too easy to get a mutation you didn't like. Maybe it was made for radical fetish anarchists who just got off to transformation in general and didn't want any control, who knows.
But the like, freedom in the way you could interact with the game was good. You weren't locked into the usual 'lose and get raped' formula, you could be dominant and play in multiple different ways depending on your mood or preferences.
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