No.1163650
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I love the Tomb Raider series and Tomb Raider 2 is my favorite. However has anyone just stopped to think that plot just makes no sense?
I mean the Tomb Raider series has never made any sense but let me try and sum up the plot of Tomb Raider 2
So like a thousand years ago the Chinese were at war with a bunch of Tibetan monks
And in order to win the Chinese pull out their secret weapon which is a magical dagger which can.. Turn people into dragons? And so they use this to turn their leader into a giant dragon which kills all the tibetan monks and wins the war for them
Fast forward to modern day (well the 90s) and it turns out that the Itallian Mafia (???) have found out about this dagger and want to find a way to track it down so they can.. Turn their mafia leader into a dragon?
How exactly is turning into a dragon going to help out the Itallian mafia?
But don't worry beacause Lara Croft has heard about this and wants to track down the dagger beacause it would look good hanging above her fireplace or something
No.1163651
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It's an adventure movie trope.
But if being a dragon kind of grants you eternal life and you have control over your dragon form, I assume it can make you quite powerful.
I always have that kind of thought about the story of vampires. There's sometimes a story where some person kind of wants to turn into a vampire because of eternal youth or something.
But being a vampire gives you that horrible undead sheen, and makes you vulnerable to sunlight and forces you to drink blood and that makes me think that becoming a vampire isn't all that great.
Tomb Raider 1 was pretty cool and understandable, I think.
I did buy a bunch of classic Tomb Raider games on Steam a year or 3 ago, but to be honest, they're very awkward to play on a laptop keyboard.
No.1163652
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>>1163651Well I suppose its similar to Indiana Jones, those plots never make much sense if you take them seriously and I don't think they have ever been meant to be serious
To be fair Tomb Raider 1 has it's fair share of odd and weird things.
Like the intro cutscene telling us that Lara killed Bigfoot. And dinosuars that exist in modern day for some reason
Oh and of course the final villan being a giant skinned disembodied mutant.. thing
No.1163654
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>>1163652> And dinosuars that exist in modern day for some reasonThen you're getting into the
Harry Potter makes no sense because there are people doing actual magic kind of idea.
Like, obviously there are fantasy elements you have to roll with.
I don't recall big foot though.
No.1163657
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Oh, you think that's weird?
>Why is the protagonist character, as a frog, literally half the size of a bulldozer?>What's a bulldozer doing on a major highway in the first place?>Why does the frog have to cross right now, during the worst traffic, and why can't he/she/it just wait a little bit?>Why does helping the frog win you money?https://www.thegamer.com/frogger-classic-facts-trivia/ No.1163658
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Dude is it a JoJo's reference?
No.1163676
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>>1163653Yeah its kind of a shame we don't know.
I dont care how many times the series gets rebooted and Laras story gets retold..
The OG ps1 to ps2 Lara Croft IS Lara to me and always will be.
>>1163654I mean go and watch the very first cutscene of tomb raider 1
It starts out with a newspaper with the headline
'Lara bags Bigfoog'
No.1163682
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>>1163676Hey,
You know, one of my favourite stuff in the Tomb Raider games I play is when Lara goes to a Medieval exhibit in the UK and you go break some wall in the basement and transverse the sewers / catacombs underneath the city and find a giant underground lake with a chappel where king Arthur and his knights are burried.
Probably one of the best stuff I found in gaming.
No.1163684
>>1163682As someone who is British/English I loved the London level in Tomb Raider 3
You even go down into the underground which is cool
There's also the secret All Hallows level in the same game which despite not naming it appears to be set inside St. Paul's Cathedral
No.1163685
>>1163684I wouldn't mind if they were to give the other Tomb raider classics the Anniversary treatment.
I haven't played any of the latest Tomb raider games, though.
I tried Uncharted to scratch that itch of climbing huge monuments and temples and finding my way through stuff. It wasn't too bad, but uncharted leans a lot more into the arcade / on rails shooter genre.
No.1163689
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>>1163685I know Laras whole thing is going all around the world but given she is English/British herself it is rather odd that there are not more levels set in the UK
I know some did not like certain choices that Anniversary made but I always did quite like it
What's scary is that more time has now passed than between the time that passed between TR1 and TR Aniversery released
No.1163690
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I've never played a single one of those games. I think I'll be getting the collection on the Switch eventually.
No.1163694
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>>1163692I wonder if the remaster fix the controls.
Like, Legends era games kind of use revamped controls, which on keyboard can be easily rebound and a very dynamic camera angle so you don't have to manually struggle with the camera or something.
The real classic PS1 era games on the PC are like an exercise in finger dexterity where you jump with ctrl, grab ledges with some shift, shoot with numpad keys and run with space or something.
Very hard to get right.
It's impossible to change key bindings, and I can't put a controller to thatose games on Steam.
No.1164160
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Listen.
In Tomb Raider 1, or at least Anniversary, everything is pretty normal for two levels. You're a badass busty action girl running around in some ruins in the fucking freezing-ass Peruvian mountains and for some reason in Anniversary they actually change the texture on Lara's shirt when it's cold to show her nipples. Rated T by the way.
Then for some reason you come out of the cave into a clearing and it's The Jungle. And there are dinosaurs in The Jungle. Cold-blooded dinosaurs in The Jungle. In this game set in the 1990s, at that time of day, in the fucking freezing Peruvian mountains, localised entirely within this clearing.
It is here that you realise that Tomb Raider is a fundamentally non-serious series and you shouldn't question it.
No.1164164
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>>1164160> You're a badass busty action girl running around in some ruins in the fucking freezing-ass Peruvian mountains and for some reason in Anniversary they actually change the texture on Lara's shirt when it's cold to show her nipplesIt truly is a testament to the quality of the game that there was so much other interesting stuff going on that I didn't even notice.
>Then for some reason you come out of the cave into a clearing and it's The Jungle. And there are dinosaurs in The Jungle. Cold-blooded dinosaurs in The Jungle. In this game set in the 1990s, at that time of day, in the fucking freezing Peruvian mountains, localised entirely within this clearing.Dino run proved that it can happen.
No.1164186
>>1164160Least they kind of sort of had dinosuars in a jungle. I can sort of do a leap of realiy and sort of accept that
But in Tomb Raider 2 there is of course a secret hidden section in the Great Wall of China level..
In which you fight two giant T rexs in a tiny hole inside a cave under the great wall of china
Yeah that I cant exactly accept
No.1164190
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>>1164164Tomb Raider Anniversary was a mid-2007 game. A few months later Crysis was going to be out and be peak graphics for a few years. So honestly it's one of the last places you'd expect to see something like that, even considering Lara Croft was still one of gaming's biggest sex icons at that time.
Did you know the design for Lara Croft in The Last Revelation's first mission was the subject of several official pin-up-style renders, despite the fact that Lara is 16 in that mission? It turns out Core Design were a British company, 16 is legal in the UK, and The Last Revelation not only predates Twitter but almost predates me so nobody was going to cancel them on Twitter.
Anyway I miss her. Why'd they reimagine her and make her all Normal and Lame and stuff? Realism bad. Bring back the dual pistol woman with big boobies.
>>1164186I mean it's a jungle that shouldn't exist. But also yeah the two T-rexes in a tiny hole under the Great Wall of China are a lot worse.
...it just occurred to me that Lara's passport isn't accurate anymore. They made them blue after Brexit. It's a shame.
No.1164375
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>>1164339You're a freak
>>1164190One thing I always found funny if sad about revelation was the devs being so overworked and tired of having to put out a yearly tomb raider game that they only agreed to make the game if they got to kill Lara at the end of it..
And they got their wish
But that didn't stop the company from demanding they make yet another tomb raider game straight after
No.1164389
>>1164384Sounds like something they just made up to explain a glitch/gaming quirk
There was quite a few of those in the first game, like Laras hair in her artwork being down in braids while ingame she has a short ponytail
Which was due to the games engine not being able to handle Laras hair pshycis and her long hair kept clipping into her body and other objects which they were unable to finish fixing before the release date
I think my favorite Lara L O R E is that Lara does not really get any money from selling what she finds
I mean for a start she's from a very wealthy family and her home belonged to her parents who were presumbly already multi millionaers which she inherited, and her parents were seemingly (if distantly) related to royalty
Lara does in fact make most her money from writing adventure guides and travel books and stories based upon her adventures which seemingly sell very well
No.1164394
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>>1164339Hope you like late 90s computer graphics.
https://core-design.com/goodies.htmlIf you look around here there's one or two more.
>>1164375I mean it worked for the Megaman Zero devs a few years later. I'd say it's a shame it didn't work back then, but then in all likelihood I wouldn't have played any Tomb Raider games because they'd have been old news by the time I was old enough to play them.
>>1164389Yeah wow that ponytail is struggling.
No.1164397
>>1164389The glitchy ponytail is kind of iconic for her.
And I can believe she doesn't sell her treasures or donate them to museums because you can find her secret rooms in her house.
Such as her basement in TR2 where she has what looks like a dragon-hoard of treasure underneath the house. Or TR3 with the secret trophy room with the dinosaur head.
No.1164409
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>>1164394Makes me wonder what other things they had to scrap due to glitches and tech limitations? I know they planned for the second game to have a time lapse and day night cycle in the levels but this never worked out so they instead had some of the levels sections be during the day and later sections in the night
>>1164397I mean she straight up has the Ark of the Covenant in her house in the first game
That's gotta be worth.. I don't know, billions? Trillions? Priceless?
Long as she does not open it and thus melts her and her butlers faces off
No.1164455
>>1164409It's always bothered me that the movie's German scientists just opened up the Ark immediately when they found the object given that the whole centerpiece of the mythology related to the treasure is "everybody who looks inside dies".
Imagine if France had a legend of a cursed champagne bottle that supposedly contained the world's nastiest acid, say, and an English scientist broke into the museum holding it before popping the cork and drinking every drop.
Or, to pick something more topical, a bunch of American tourists taking selfies literally right inside of the remains of the Chernobyl reactor.
No.1164469
>>1164455To be fair that's kind of the point. The Nazis being recorruing enemies in the Indinia Jones series always has them painted at idiots
Like Indy accidently giving Hitler the location of the Holy Grail and Hitler thinks he wants him to sign it
