No.1157994
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Ya know?
I haven't started my free trial yet.
No.1158003
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I AM 666% READY
SEND ME TO HELL AND LET ME BURN IN BLISS <3
No.1158007
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>>1158003I suppose I can expect tons of new screencaps for this year?
No.1158022
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No.1158023
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>>1158004there is a special ring in hell for one upsmanship
there will be a demon who always one ups you, and you are required to one up him ad infinitum
it's a sysphian flex
>>1158007oh you bet your ass i will!
>>1158022i will take 50k via venmo pls
No.1158024
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Season 1? I thought this show was out a long time ago
No.1158031
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>>1158024Hazbin hotel had a pilot all the way back in 2019
Then it was just youtube episodes of Helluva boss, which is same art /setting.
>>1158023I'd have to crowd fund that ticket to digital CBT paradise!
No.1158033
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It's already out apparently! I can access it on prime right now
No.1158034
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>>1158033jade, is this character from that cooking show?
No.1158035
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>>1158034No, it's Frieren from Frieren.
No.1158036
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>>1158035awwww, ok! still, i think it is very you <3
No.1158038
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oh shit its out!
i got my charlie shirt!
got my red blazer
got my charlie plush!
i'm ready!!!
No.1158041
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i fucking LOVED IT! i've been waiting so long, and the first 4 episodes were wonderful!
Charlie is so precious and pure and i love her to pieces <3
and all the other characters were so much fun!
also episode 4... goddamn i wanna give Angel the biggest hug T_T
No.1158042
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i just want to parse through the episodes for reaction images
but i gotta work on shit!
GAH I'M IN A GLASS CASE OF EMOTIONS!
No.1158043
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also the dinosaur overlord is a new fave of mine <3
No.1158070
>>1158041>>1158042>>1158043I noticed that it's already episode four, and they've already covered character development for two of the major characters already. I figured that kinda stuff would be later episodes, either near end-season or season 2.
I'm guessing Vivziepop regards Hazbin Hotel will be short-lived, given how long it took to get past pilot.
I'm also still wondering if any of the Helluva characters will show up, like the seven deadly sins.
No.1158074
>>1158070That's sadly a thing for animated shows in general.
Due to many streaming platforms (Netflix primarily) using pretty scummy tactics like ordering one big season that they split into several to avoid having to give people raises based on the show's success, and their tendency to rather unceremoniously cancel shows, showrunners now tend to write under the assumption that they get what amounts to one regular TV-season.
So plots get condensed "filler" is filtered out somewhat, and major turning points are placed at strategic moments in case of season splitting or sudden cancelation.
It is a hellscape out there for animation showrunners right now.
No.1158075
>>1158074Damn, I didn't know all that. That kinda explains what happened to Make Your Mark, I guess...
But Hazbin Hotel is on Amazon, does that mean they're no better?
No.1158076
>>1158075I am not entirely sure about Amazon's reputation regarding this. They have treated Invincible pretty well so far.
But you have to understand from a showrunner perspective that if the biggest platform pulls crap like this, it's safe to assume it can happen just as well anywhere else.
Think of how many shows that ended on a cliffhanger because someone at the top suddenly yoinked the show away even when everyone was fully convinced they'd been greenlit for a new season. Now give them like... half the season lengths they used to get on flow TV.
No.1158081
>>1158078>>1158079If you look at the release schedules of some shows, it gets pretty apparent.
Take Centaurworld.
Season 1 released on July 30th 2021 and consisted of 10 episodes, at approximately 25 minutes apiece (discarding credits and such)
Season 2 released on December 7th the same year and was 8 episodes long, all at the same length, though episode 8 was a 70 minute special, bringing it back to approximately 10 x 25 minutes.
250 minutes worth of animation, completed in five months and one week? Nope.
I suspecto ne of the reasons Netflix does this is to cultivate a more constant stream of content and excitement, hoping to keep audiences engaged instead of dumping a whole season that gets watched in two days and then leaving the audience waiting a whole year. It's preferable to dumnp 10 episodes with a few months in between so the audience doesn't "forget" about the show, at least from their standpoint.
The other, as I mentioned above, is to avoid having to pay people working on the show more based on its success and the ordering of more seasons.
No.1158083
>>1158081Couldn't the content creators choose whenever or not their TV shows are scheduled or not?
Like, what if they want their episodes weekly, or for the whole season to be available on release date?
No.1158084
>>1158083To my understanding, release / airtime schedule is not usually up to the creators, but to the distributors.
And of course different ditributors, like everyone else, have different opinions and try to change with the market, with their decisions largely formed by what they think will maximize profit and audience engagement for that particular IP.
So that's why you get the ones that do weekly episodes like the old days of Flow TV, some that release two episodes weekly, some that dump a whole season at once, etc.
No.1158093
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>>1158070it could depend on a number of different things, but in any project, once you know your allotted time, you make adjustments where you need. Season 1 is slotted to have 8 episodes, but there is a second season in the works
in an ideal world, every show would have as many episodes as the show runner desires, but as esh mentioned below, a lot of that is dependent on distributors and studio and what budget they are willing to put into the show. and given that Hazbin Hotel and Vivziepop are independent born IP, they are most likely being a little bit restrictive with that part.
still i love what they've done so far, and even if the first couple episodes are a bit frantic paced, i know that is to let the rest of the show breathe and be as incredible as it can be.
>>1158075>>1158076amazon prime has some great shows on it, and it's a distributor that has reputation within the industry. being on that versus netflix or vice versa isn't a tell of how good or bad a show is, as they both have good and bad shows.
>>1158077hazbin hotel is confirmed to have a season 2, they announced that a while ago
>>1158078sonic prime season 3 actually just released a few days ago
>>1158081i do wonder if the outcome of the writers strike will affect this sort of bisecting of seasons to manipulate pay or not? i know it did a lot of stuff including streaming pay structure. but i would be lying to say i know any details regarding that :/
>>1158085well they definitely know more than me, so i would take their word
No.1158125
>>1158093I was referring to Prime's reputation regarding how they treat shows and wether or not they pull Netflix-esque nonsense, and how I dunno about that. I have not seen enough Amazin prime shows outside of Invincible or The Boys to say one way or the other about the overall quality.
>Strike's effect on bisecting seasonsWho on Earth knows. Ideally, they'll find some way to put a stop to it, cause it's a really scummy way to just basically pat yourself on the back for nothing and go "Look how succesful the shows we keep not renewing are! Look at aaaaalll these seasons!"
No.1158126
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As far as I can recall, I think this is the first major animated show Amazon Prime has put together
But outside of that, Amazon Prime does not have the same reputation that Netflix has with cancelling shows. Generally if a show is popular, they don't cancel it.
Also it should probably said that this isn't like, a SOLELY Amazon Prime production. A24 is the producer of the show, Amazon Prime is just their streaming partner. Even if Amazon Prime doesn't continue with it at some point, doesn't mean it would be completely dead in the water.
Personally if the show does well in viewership I don't foresee it getting cancelled early. Just because Prime doesn't have much of a track record for arbitrarily cancelling shows.
No.1158127
To clarify further:
I wasn't saying Amazon is likely to out-of-nowhere cancel this.
I was saying, in response to someone feeling the show crammed a lot into relatively few episodes (I have only seen the first one myself), that some of the common approaches to writing for shows in general has changed a bit alongside the nature of streaming in a lot of ways, like how much shorter seasons become, a bigger focus on serialization, etc.
And one of the things affecting this is definitely knowing that some of the biggest platforms have a noticable tendency to pull the rug away from under them with very little warning.
Not that that didn't happen before streaming either, it's just happening a lot now, and a lot more people are made aware of it, and try to adjust accordingly.
Look at Infinity Train - that ran a risk in general by counting on getting a total of eight seasons, even if said season was only the length of a single feature film - and they more or less got told to pack their shit and go halfway into making Season 4 with next to no warning. Result being that it left us all not just on a major cliffhanger, but on a season that was deliberately written to be a somewhat lighter story, meant to give the viewers a moment to breathe before they picked up on the plot threads from the season before it.
I don't think that's something any creative want, if they actually have an endgame with their shows and haven't designed it to be fully episodic in the first place.
At least some shows have gotten the saving grace of, even in the face of sudden cancellation, being allowed to make an actual finale. Molly McGee being the most recent example.
No.1158128
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I think it's much more likely that this person who has never made a show like this before, where even Helluva Boss is a different sort of show, maybe just doesn't... really know how to do pacing correctly. And might learn how to do it better as time goes on.
Just a possibility.
No.1158131
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>>1158128I also thought some more about it and I'm thinking maybe she wants to develop the characters first and do it faster and then focus on other aspects of the show later.
It's really too early to say much about the pacing at this point.
No.1158196
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It's fun. A bit rough but really it's the first real outing of these characters.
No.1158243
Hazbin Hotel is the 2nd most streamed show on Amazon Prime right now!
and sitting at 86% critic score and an 89% among audiences on Rotten Tomatoes
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/hazbin_hotel/s01https://x.com/TheCartoonBase/status/1748705456086753692?s=20glad to see this show getting a great reception <3
and i will listen to "You're a Loser" on repeat <3
>>1158131this is what i'm predicting myself. if given a limited time, i think she maybe giving later elements more time to breath when they come
No.1158278
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>>1158243we got a commercial for it while watching tv with our parents and they cool with it until the cursing started lol
the commercial really does just have a guy going "FUCK YOU!" in it.
No.1158296
>>1158243I have been unable to stop singing Loser, Baby since friday.
I may have an actual illness
No.1158310
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I'll be honest, I've never watched one episode of this show nor Helluva Boss to its fullest. I'll make it a goal to watch one today. Can't hurt to try.
No.1158320
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>>1157992You know what.
I kinda enjoyed the 2019 pilot.
Cute and funny.
No.1158322
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>>1158243Keith David is a treasure.
No.1158327
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I always instinctively turn my nose up at 'adult' cartoons. Like I instinctively figure they're all haha funny dick jokes for mature people. It's adult because it's inappropriate for children, not because it's actually made with deeper themes in mind.
I have no idea whether Hazbin is that kind of 'adult' cartoon or not. But Astra Bolt of Ponychan fame streamed some of the songs from YouTube for me yesterday and Jesus Christ I did not know Captain Anderson Mass Effect could sing like that. What the fuck. Shit's amazing.
No.1158363
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>>1158327Helluva Boss actually has some pretty grownup emotional stuff in it. And there has never been a more grownup show on TV than
Bojack Horseman. Check out this clip-- (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt21dU5Pu8g)
--which is part of a dream sequence going through Bojack's dying brain as he lies at the bottom of his Hollywood swimming pool. The poem is being recited by Bojack's idol, Secretariat, who committed suicide by jumping from a bridge when Bojack was a child.
Now that's adult content.
No.1158367
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>>1158366Bruh. Damn.
>>1158363Yeah, I don't know. I think it's partly because those kinds of things didn't exist when I was growing up, and partly because my taste in media is pretty childish itself.
>>1158364It was discussed in the cringe thread a little, but my thoughts are basically 'the cringe thing is that he went bankrupt over it, not that he did it'.
No.1158403
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>>1158367To be fair he's not gone Bankrupt. The guy who orderd and paid for the animation is a multi millionaire
Which if anything proves that money can't buy you sense
No.1160918
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>>1160912I haven't even tried it yet for this reason. I was already on the fence about it, but learning it was a musical really put me off.
My main group of friends say the music is mediocre. Other people say they love it. I'll probably be on the former's side.
No.1161097
I'm still going to give it a shot soon, but I've seriously gotten the sense as a writer and artist myself (with a lot of creative anxiety) that the 'eight deadly words' may apply to this show for everybody not named "Charlie":
> https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EightDeadlyWordsYet I want to give any famous musical a decent chance! I really do!
W.r.t. musicals in general, one of my favorite songs ever is one of that I actually just came across lately
about a racist white woman in the U.S. south who attends an integrated church and thus gives up on her old beliefs (warning that, emotionally, this is like being smacked by a baseball bat upside the head in bluntness terms) titled "Change Don't Come Easy":
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>>1161097I love musicals conceptually, most of them I can't stand but here's a few that are good
The Fiddler on the Roof
Chicago
The Toxic Avenger Musical
Phantom of the Opera
that's about it.
No.1161233
I feel like the key to succeeding in a musical is a)be ridiculously over-the-top and melodramatic in the sense of being the wish-fulfillment at the audience craves deep down and also b)play everything completely straight so that no matter how comedic, offbeat, weird, et cetera happens it's all heart.
This is a great example: there's no way really that it makes logical sense. Playing upbeat r&b music loudly in public will make schoolgirls in a fiercely segregated neighborhood start playing together? Let alone the radio's power makes local teenage dudes start dance fighting each other in a way that ends all dramatically happy? And yet. It works.
Admittedly, one of my biggest hang-ups in not wanting to get into either 'Hazbin Hotel' or 'Helluva Boss' beyond my casual interest in the past is that they're about extremely serious and prickly issues such as anxiety, child abuse, depression, homophobia, and transphobia plus even more. As well as the broader context of violent religious divisions coming up. Which like I feel that you should only get into in musicals if you're extremely well-thought out in what you say on those subjects. I genuinely hate it when you have something like 'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles' or 'Spider-Man' cartoons releasing episodes for kids about like, say, people contracting HIV/AIDS or other really serious subjects that're all glib and poorly treated due to lazy writing (i.e. "Man, this AIDS thing really sucks! I'm buying you a pizza, dude!").
No.1161362
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>>1161358That's a classic, can't believe how old it is already.
No.1161373
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>>1161206What about Hamilton?
It's got rap music.
No.1161378
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>>1161373Hamilton's fine, I guess. It's got maybe 2 or 3 songs I think are good.
No.1161399
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>>11613782 out of 46 ain't bad! We'll make a musical lover outta you!
No.1161418
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>>1161399I do already love musicals, they just have to be worth watching or listening to.
No.1161447
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>>1161441>16 full length songs over just 8 episodes of only 20 minutes each. That's nearly a third of the show's runtime dedicated to just singing.I'm like:
>Yeesh.
No.1161453
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>>1161441TWO PER EPISODE?! THATS INSANE WHAT
No.1161474
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>>1161441>>1161447>>1161453they are fucking phenomenal songs though, and it is a musical, so music is sorta implied in the show
if it ain't your cup of tea, that's fine, but it would be weird to have a musical with less music
No.1161561
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>>1161547Ooh I love Wicked <3 I saw that live in Denver many many years ago!
And if you are coming from Helluvaboss to Hazbin Hotel, they do have very different energies despite being the same universe. That being said, Disney princess in hell is my crack for sure! I wouldn't mind getting a Charlie tattoo, although that will have to wait till I'm more financially stable
No.1161623
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>>1161561I'll give you one for free let me just break some pens first
No.1161626
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>>1161623oh hell yeah! thank you roxie <3
where should i get it?
No.1161647
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>>1161626you should get CHARLIE tattood across your knuckles with a heart at the end
but idk maybe on your upper arm?
No.1161648
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>>1161647I'm hoping to get 1776 in Roman numerals on my back one day. I'd think that would be fuckin' dope.
No.1161651
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>>1161647knuckle tattoos would be cool, but hand tattoos tend to fade much quicker than other types
i wouldn't mind getting it on my upper arm though! she'd look great!
OOOOH I KNOW!
Charlie on one shoulder and Emily on the other!
that way i have a shoulder demon and a shoulder angel!
No.1161690
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I wonder... what about getting knuckle tattoos that would have actually useful information on them?
What about a tattoo that depicts part of a street map? Or the entire layout of some location? Or a tattoo detailing somebody's birthday, being done on the behalf of somebody who matters to you a lot? What about a set of numbers to help remember a "Wi-Fi password" somewhere?
No.1161711
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>>1161651This is the best thing. You should totally get it.
No.1161718
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>>1161711right? although i probably should Vaggie in there too so she doesn't kill me!
No.1161725
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>>1161719oh that would be perfect XDD
it would be interesting to see my partners face if they are back there, and they are confronted with scowling vaggie XD
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>>1161745as a girl with a dick, i don't got much options down there
