>>4488>No, which is why I still give out warnings for it and tell people to cut it out.
Have you considered that actually addressing it directly would be better than issuing warnings that never even mention it?>In most cases we wouldn't punish that, unless it went on for post after post, which would be taking it too far and result in us stepping in to try to defuse the situation, which is what I did and it worked.
Well, I think that should change.
punish for that.
Things should not be allowed to escalate to the point of direct insults like that. And, yeah, I still think "You're acting like a shithead" to be a pretty direct insult. Maybe it's to the "behavior" rather than the individual, but, still, its' a dick thing to do.
if you guys started to enforce that type of thing, it'd go a long, long way for making me feel better about the way things are here.>I said you wouldn't. We're on such different wavelengths that it's impossible to communicate or understand each other. But I've responded now, as you've requested, that's the best I can do.
But, man. I just don't understand how anyone'd find "You're acting like a shithead" to be something acceptable or allowable on a given website. Especially on a board where we're supposed to encourage productive dialogue.
And, don't give me the "I warned him for that".
The text is there to see.>You've been that way for the past eight or nine hours.
For what it's worth, I think you ought to've.
Hell, someone ended up doing it, a while back.>>4357
A good two hours were lost there.
Didn't really help, of course.
But, I've always been someone who advocates enforcement of the letter of the law, over how you "feel" at a given time.
Less likely to result in this, where people feel like there's no fairness, no consideration, they're just left to their own devices while things play a nasty game.
I said before, trust is vital with any given system of governance, which, like I said, I'd count this place as.
If you lose the trust of the userbase of your given system, it falls apart.
Whether that be because nobody cares about your rules and will ignore them, evade bans, or just do the same thing when they get back, or whether it be because everyone ends up leaving.
Having a system where some are held to one standard, while others another, will not last.>Not unlike the thread from before, you're getting really hung up on pedantry. The exact wording of both the rules and the mod post do not matter to the extent you seem to think they do.
Maybe not to you, who they do not effect.
They matter a helluva lot to me, who's been directly put under them.
This is a big part of why I think a rotation might be a great way to go, actually.
I think you've lost a lot of perspective. That, or, maybe you just never cared about these things like I do.
Like I said, I don't really care less when it comes to the punishment, as much as the justification behind it.
You could ban me for a day, ban me for a week, ban me for a year. You could just give me a warning, as is the case here. I'd still be upset, likely equally so, because it's just not fair.
Some are treated to one standard. Some are treated to another.
You can say it's not so, but, I sure don't see it that way. And, given you just call it "pedantry" when I give you evidence in that regard, I'm not inclined to accept your arguments to the contrary. Because I
don't see it that way.> I am a moderator. I am here to moderate. "make or become less extreme, intense, rigorous, or violent." Things had become intense, it was my job to step in and make them less so. We do not want an intense website. That is the goal of moderation. The goal of moderation is not doling out justice and punishment.
Maybe that should be changed then.
Maybe the title should be shifted.
Because, I don't give a damn about your moderation. Especially when it's worked out so horrifically poorly for you.
Like I pointed out here >>4487
we've had two thousand
new posts on /canterlot/ since I made one of my earlier complaints about Manley.
Pretty sure you're not going to pretend we've reached any kind of "moderation" at present. If anything, things've escalated and ecsalated as a result of your inaction in this regard.
Maybe this is more about me, than you.
Maybe this is my personality.
I am a person who puts extreme, intensely strong priority to principles.
My greatest personal fear is that I will one day end up betraying those principles, either due to personal weakness, fatigue, or jadedness.
Some people fear fire, disappointment, failure, and so on. I guess for me failure could be a part of it, but, I never want to lose sight of what I believe in.
As a result, I'm not inclined towards mediation where it is not fair or just. When someone is allowed to continue bad behavior despite the standards others are held to, I get upset. Very upset, as it happens.
Your moderation has failed to moderate. So, maybe it wasn't the best idea?>Again, yes, wording could've been better, because apparently you at least did not interpret things in the way I intended. That is a failure of communication on my part and I seek to improve that in the future. But there just isn't the issue here you're seeing.
When stuff is flat out ignored like it was, when I'm left holding the entirety of the strict hand, when I've been treated repeatedly like this, it's really hard to accept it as just a bit of bad communication.
I don't want to say "I don't believe you", but, I don't.
But, I will at least pretend to, for what that's worth.
if what you are saying is that the incredibly lightly worded post that doesn't address the particular problem I've had at all is actually warning against that behavior, I can accept that.
Provided it acts as an actual warning. As in, if it happens again, you'll actually take action.
If you can at least promise me that, I can step back. Maybe not happily, maybe not fully content, but, I'll have an excuse I can go back to that at least says something
. At least leaves a possibility
If there really isn't any kind of possibility of change or potential fixings, I'd at least like to know.
If nothing else, at least knowing there's no hope of fixing anything here lets me understand that any attempt is pointless.
This has really fucked up my entire day. Possibly the week, if I'm unlucky.
This was supposed to be my birthday week, where for the few days I get off, I end up going out with family, getting something to eat, hanging out, maybe seeing a movie or something. Instead, I pretty much got stuck here, just spinning further and further into a seriously miserable pit.
I don't want to do some "woe is me" shit, here. It's not the goal to drum up sympathy, or whatever, I just want to try to get you to understand that, when I beg you here to tell me if there's a chance, I'm not asking for a chance.
I'm specifically trying to find out if there is
Because if there's not, I can cut this place out.
I can cut the thing that, frankly, has been doing a whole lot of damage to me for far too long here.
I'm far too tired to handle this type of thing. Especially after what had happened on Ponychan. I really cannot afford another spiral like that, as, frankly, stupid as it sounds, that left me in the 2nd darkest place I've ever been. I do not want to end up going through that again. I don't think it really will have that effect, given that Ponychan was a home online for me for ages, through a rather significant portion of my life. But, still. The jagged and cracked bit I managed to scrape out of there isn't going to handle another fall well, I figure. So, if it's really the way it has to be, I can cut this place out too if I have to.