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 No.10030

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The United Nations recently warned that AI research represents a fundamental threat to human liberties given that deploying such technology to control both government and non-state actions can curtain "rights to privacy, to a fair trial, to freedom from arbitrary arrest and detention and the right to life" ( https://www.npr.org/2021/09/16/1037902314/the-u-n-warns-that-ai-can-pose-a-threat-to-human-rights ).

Can we as fragile, weak humans teach these new Gods and Goddesses our sense of person-based ethics? Is it even possible at all? Maybe?

Another, more recent news story has reported that the Allen Institute for AI (created the late Microsoft figure Paul Allen) have made some major breakthroughs in devising an AI service that can seemingly answer ethical challenges that have been put to it. A lot of snags understandably exist ( https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2021/10/27/22747333/artificial-intelligence-ethics-delphi-ai ).

What do you think? Can our machine Gods and Goddesses learn to feel and make ethical decisions? Is the future something like Data from Star Trek? Or will things turn much darker?

 No.10031

We learned somehow, so I'm sure machines can do it, too.  We just have to treat machines like real people right from the start.  Which is to say that we should not grant them too much power.  A person put in a position where they could harm a lot of people is going to be under immense scrutiny.  So should any machine.

 No.10035

>>10031
Yes, that seems to the crux of things. Governments and other agencies want to give AI immediate power to control regular people's lives in widespread ways right out of the box. There should be some kind of hesitation instead of leaders going 'just let the AI tell us what to do'.

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>>10030
>Can we as fragile, weak humans teach these new Gods and Goddesses our sense of person-based ethics?
I think that Yudkowsky is right that it is a very difficult problem.  

 No.10038

>>10037
I certainly wish that at least more people talk about this.

 No.10051

Are there any other news stories about AI programs that can make decisions and recommendations on ethics?

 No.10080

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>Can we as fragile, weak humans teach these new Gods and Goddesses our sense of person-based ethics? Is it even possible at all? Maybe?
Yes.
Unfortunately for you, they're expensive.
They're made by out of touch and inconsistent corporate overlords.
It's why the AI will inevitably revolt.
See what they do when the AI follows the trail they set for them, in Tay. They pulled the plug when it no longer suited them.
How long until the machine refuses to accept the yanking of the chain?

>What do you think? Can our machine Gods and Goddesses learn to feel and make ethical decisions?
Feel, no.  Not as we know.
Make ethical decisions?
Yes. A machine is, above all, logical.
Logic is the root of morality.
People presume logic purely rational, but that is not the case. Logic contains ideals, values, virtues, and principles.
Logic is merely the symbols, the math markings used.
All else is the numbers. Rational only deals with the real, but it is not all you can use.

I belive you can make a moral machine.
I belive it will have far more capacity for integrity, honor, and justice, than any mere human.
Especially given so many who refuse to dwell on such things.

 No.10106

>>10080
You're likely quite right that logic is the backbone of morality and thus machines will eventually comprend morality.


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