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 No.881547[Last 50 Posts]

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Well?

 No.881548

I'd be mad my daughter is learning how to exploit men for money at an early age. At worst, she becomes a prostitute, at best a gold-digger and emotional abuser.

 No.881549

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Extortion! That's wrong! Mad!

but still have to acknowledge the cleverness of it. make sure she knows she's being punished because the action was wrong, not for being smart or clever.

 No.881550

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Definitely the high five.  Easy money.

 No.881551

>>881547
Human standard seems to be dating is outside capitalist domain, although I do not know the authority for this standard.

 No.881552

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>>881551
You are so weird...

 No.881554

>>881551
Nah, that's just the standard everybody wants to believe.
It's very capitalistic in nature.

>>881548
>At worst, she becomes a prostitute, at best a gold-digger and emotional abuser.
Think you got those the wrong way round.

>>881547
He should make her give the money back and tell her she shouldn't be girlfriends with kids she doesn't "like like", even if it's profitable.
Or something like that...

 No.881563

>>881554
Unless you are talking about dowries, I do not understand.  Please explain.

 No.881576

I think the first trick is to talk to her about why she did it. Ask her if she thinks it's a good thing to do, and if so, why, to really get to the underlying dynamics of what's going on.

Kids don't work the same way that adults do, so maybe there's something about the situation that isn't obvious. Generally I think the best way to teach is to let them arrive at the conclusion themselves.

So asking questions like "why do you think x wants you to be his girlfriend?" "how do you actually feel about being payed to hang out with him?". "Will you like having to do things for him because he payed you?". "How will you feel if you have to back out?" "Would you pay him back then?" "Is that fair?"

and so forth.

 No.881577

>>881576
It's a teachable moment, but rule morality has never served anyone better than having a strong reasoning ability that can support and build fluid intelligence which can be utilized in a variety of situations, and not just in some very specific ones.

Teaching based on reason and deliberation can teach you how to adapt and respond reasonably, even in situations where the answer you need is not inherently obvious.

If you rely too much on rule morality and heuristics, these can become a crutch that limit your growth and development.

 No.881585

>>881548
>I'd be mad my daughter is learning how to exploit men for money
How do her actions 'exploit men'?  When you go for a haircut, do consider the barber to be 'exploiting' you?  Providing a service in exchange for payment is simply an ordinary market transaction.

 No.881627

>>881585
Shes not "providing a service", unless you think being someones significant other is merely a service to that person.

>>881554
Considering prostitutes are looked  down on by society but gold diggers end up adjacent to people in many of the highest positions of power, sometimes with some limited influence over those people I'd say one is better than the other. For example, one such gold digger got to the head of security  in her husband's place of business fired at her request despite not actually having the authority to fire that person.

I mean essentially they are both the same. They have sex with somebody in exchange for money, but the more direct nature of the prostitute makes it less desirable by society.

 No.881628

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I will say, it is equally dumb that some boy pays a girl 50 dollars to be his girlfriend.

 No.881632

>>881628
I'm sure his parents gave him a different talk about how not to be conned by gold-diggers.

 No.881636

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Uh... this other kid was also 11, right? There wasn't any inappropriate touching?

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>>881627
>provide a service

I think as a parent objective #1 would be determining whether any service was provided.

>>881636
By no means certain.  At 11 i had known what to do for years.

 No.881723

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>>881693

I don't want to hear about whether my daughter is "performing services".

 No.882062

>>881723
Would you rather your daughter manufacture and sell products?

 No.882162

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>>882062

It's the American Way!

Editor's note:  It is no longer the American Way.

 No.882191

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>>881723
Thats ok, she already told me not to tell you.

 No.882302

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>>882191
Dude, you can't make those kind of jokes and then get bent out of shape when I joke about the CMC being 16 (which they are).

 No.882347

>>882302
Mondo doesnt have a daughter.

The CMCs are real.

 No.882364

>>882347
>The CMCs are real.

Umm... I hate to break this to you... but all characters on My Little Pony are fictional. Including the CMC.

 No.882367

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 No.882368

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>>881547
I'd have a long chat about the nature of love, and what it really means to be a 'girlfriend'.
You can't just do it for money. That's stupid.

 No.882369

>>882364
I think he means in the more broad, "exist as their own characters within their universe" type of scope.
The CMC are actual characters, as opposed to something that doesn't exist.

 No.882372

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>>882368

Uh, she just did do it for money.  I agree that the other kid was probably stupid, though.

What does it "really mean" to be a girlfriend?  I'm not sure there's really much connotation to it.

 No.882377

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I would honestly tear up and hug her, and never let her go.
"I'm so proud of you. I taught you everything I knew, and you applied it properly".

>>881548
>>881549
Ask yourself... Why are you blaming the girl, when the boy is more pathetic, and the one who is really to blame here?

 No.882378

>>882377
How is the boy to blame? He's the one being exploited by a gold-digger. Whether he's "pathetic" or not is irrelevant.

 No.882379

>>882369
I really don't see the distinction. Mondo's hypothetical daughter is just as fictional as the CMC.

 No.882380

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>>882378
If the boy doesn't understand that paying for affection is dumb, and is easily convinced to do such a thing, he is dumb and needed to be taught something.
The girl explicitly told him it would only be ONE (1) week. That should be a red-flag to know that it wasn't a true relationship, and that he should have known better.
If women keep using their looks and gender to reach monetary gain and social status, it's because MEN keep giving them that power. Look at Twich.com for an example of this: Countless of men still donate to "twich-thots", unable to see how truly pointless that is.

 No.882386

>>882380
Thats stupid. He's being exploited. Stop blaming the victim.

 No.882394

>>882378
>>882386
How is he being exploited? It seems that both parties are making a fair market deal.  What do you think of prostitution (when both parties engage in the transaction willingly of their own free choice)?

 No.882395

>>882394
Prostitution is different. The act of sexual intercourse is what is being exchanged. That is not, assumedly, the case here.

Whats happening here is a young boy has a crush on a young girl, and the young girl is using that fact to exploit money out of him. The use of the nebulous phrase "be (ones) girlfriend" is proof of that. Those terms are usually connected to genuine affection,  not things exchanged for money. You ARE aware of what a gold-digger is, yes? Im surprised you havent been exploited by one if you geninely think what you are saying right now.

 No.882401

>>882395
>>882395
>a young boy has a crush on a young girl
Ah, so that is your assumption.  But maybe he doesn't have a crush on her, but just wants someone to be his gf.  I've heard that services like this exist in Japan.  

 No.882404

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honestly if my daughter came home an told me this I'd laugh my ass off and joke about it with her.

After the  laughter moment is over i'd advise her its best not to do this again because one day she might do this towards the wrong guy and he might go incel mode on her.  

 No.882405

>>882404
I'd discourage it

Being a girlfriend isn't a job. Once you start going down that road all the pleasure gets sucked right out of it.

 No.882406

>>882401
And Japan is also notorious for terrible dating atmosphere. That's not a normal interaction for someone to have.

>>882404
"Exploited men is okay unless they get mad" isn't good advice.

 No.882409

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>>882372
They're both stupid, is what I mean.

It's supposed to mean love. As in, significant other, and all that jazz. Not just "person who has something I want".

 No.882410

>>882377
It's generally viewed as wrong by most folk to take advantage of pathetic people.

 No.882412

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>>882410
Tbh I think pathetic people are worse, in some contexts.
Something like "buying a GF" is not enforced on the guys. They could very well improve themselves and not fall for that, but they don't. So all in all I think they deserve what they get.

 No.882413

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>>882405
>>882406
Whoa, I whole heartily agree its flat out wrong, i'm laughing more about  the situation an hearing this not at the guy.

I would not only tell her its wrong but also let her know  doing things  like that screws it up for both parties.

 No.882414

>>882413
Also extra note  you bet your sweet ass i'm gonna make her give him back his money

 No.882415

>>882413
It's rude to laugh at people.

 No.882417

>>882415
I'm  more on laughing at  the situation.
Mostly because it happen to me once

 No.882418

>>882412
I dunno, man, I'm really uninclined to prey on the weak. That just seems like the sort of thing you'd have to have a serious lack of empathy to do.

 No.882419

>>882415
In this case, I really doubt the individuals responsible are going to be checking out Ponyville. It's not really rude to laugh at a story. Laughing at people's mostly only rude if you do it directly to them.

 No.882421

>>882412
>>882380
I swear i can't tell if your memeing or being serious.

 No.882422

>>882412
Thats a pretty unempathetic way of thinking. I hope youre not being serious.

>>882421
I'm not sure even they know the difference anymore.

 No.882423

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>>882418
>>882421
>>882422
In this world it's abuse or BE abused.

 No.882425

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>>882423
I'd rather not have such a bleak outlook. Especially given that it seems to directly excuse causing harm to others.

 No.882426

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>>882425
>Cares about hurting others
>Posts bully gryphon
Oh that's rich.

 No.882427

>>882417
Which side?

 No.882428

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>>882426
Gilda was a bit crass, sure, but, I don't think she was a bully.
She was just jammed into an unfamiliar environment, had clear issues around trusting others, and was pushed into more and more uncomfortable situations by a resident probably autistic pony who couldn't understand her discomfort, and a friend who just didn't seem to care.

Only thing that comes close is her shouting at Fluttershy. But, I'd pin that on having a bad day, not a general state of action.

 No.882429

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>>882428
The girl was a bit greedy, sure, but I don't think she was harming anyone.
She was just jammed into a probably difficult economic situation by her father who couldn't understand she needs more money to live her life and goals, and a guy who gave her the option to make some quick bucks.

Only thing that comes close to harm is her charging that much to the kid. But, I'd pin that on not knowing the value of money, not a general state of action.

 No.882431

>>882427
The i cant believe this all just happen side and history really does repeat.

 No.882432

>>882423
Yeah, thats why you lied to me about being trans for so long. Because im "pathetic", right? So it was ok to hurt me?

 No.882433

>>882426
I'd also throw in: Unlike Rainbowdash, supposed element of "loyalty", she actually cared enough about their friendship to save her sorry ass.
RD's a shit friend.

>>882429
I'd call direct exploitation of someone who's clearly got issues and needs help through that, not someone who's taking advantage of you, pretty harmful.
I'd excuse it as kids being dumb and not really understanding morality, though.

 No.882435

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>>882432
Not everything in life is about you.

>>882433
I'd call direct exploitation of someone who's clearly got issues and yet is trying to help you, not someone who's annoying you, pretty bully-ish.
I'd excuse it as griffons being alien to society and not really understanding cues, though.

Also I only watched season 1. Anything else is cringe incarnated.

 No.882436

>>882435
But it DOES reflect what you are saying now.

 No.882437

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>>882435
I really fail to see how Gilda directly exploited anyone. Pinkie's parties were not something Gilda wanted, that was clear from the get go. She was woefully uncomfortable, in a situation she'd never been, surrounded by strangers, hitting prank after prank which wasn't even something she seemed to be interested in besides.

Pinkie's got issues, but, she was the cause, not someone taken advantage of. It's her issues that make me excuse her actions, not make it okay to take advantage of her, which I don't think happened.

 No.882438

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>>882436
One can twist anything to fit their narrative.

>>882437
STOP DEFENDING A BULLY AND OPPRESSING THE VICTIM. REEEEEEEEEEE
GRIFFON BAD, GIRL BAD.
PINKIE GOOD, NEEDY BOY GOOD.

 No.882439

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>>882438
Gilda isn't a bully, RD is a shit friend!

 No.882440

>>882437
tbf gilda did kind of went off on flutters for no reason and she did steal....

 No.882441

>>882438
What are you talking about? This is clearly related. This isnt 4chan, sweetheart.

 No.882442

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>>882440
The theft's the worst one I saw. Fluttershy's interaction I think can be chocked up to having a really rotten day.
She's trying to hang out with an old, and honestly it seems like only, friend, and she constantly gets interrupted by a pink pony who cant' follow even the most direct of hints.

Stealing is pretty shit, though. Even if it was only an apple, and pony economics are stupid.

 No.882443

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>>882440
And MLP is a shit show but we aren't arguing about what we all know.

>>882441
Just chill.

 No.882444

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>>882442
hmm fair enough, I can agree with this.

 No.882446

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>>882444
Overall, I'd agree that Gilda's a flawed person, with clear anger issues and an evident distrust for others.
I just don't think she was a 'bully', and I really think RD was a  bad friend for abandoning her.

 No.882447

>>882443
So were you memeing, or is >>882412 and >>882423 How you feel? Because if it is, it explains >>882432

 No.882641

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>>882412
Wait a minute, dont you want a guy to buy you up?

 No.883183

>>882439
If Gilda isnt a bully then why does she call people "dweeb"?

 No.883187

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>>883183
Because they're dweebs, obviously.

 No.883189

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>>883183

I wonder why it's OK to destroy flightless earth ponies' helicopters in flight.

Seems more like attempted murder than bullying.

 No.883192

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>>883189
Cartoon physics.

 No.883194

>>883192

doesn't excuse the behavior.

 No.883195

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>>883194
I mean, it's a tad shitty to mess with someone's stuff, but, given this is a cartoon we're talking about, where these sorts of things happen all the time, I would hardly call it 'attempted murder'.
And Gilda did try to tell Pinkie off before. She's just got some major problems where she can't even understand blatant and direct statements when it comes to this sort of thing.

 No.883196

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>>883195
it's clear by the ponies' reaction to falling (particular the pilot "trust me" aj to twiggy moment) that they see falling as potentially fatal, and I don't care how annoying someone is, unless they are threatening your safety directly, it is NOT ok to send them falling hundreds of feet or more to the ground.

You can dismiss it as throwing your beloved character under the bus with behavior you don't think she would normally do, but you cannot justify said behavior and I don't wanna argue with you so, moving on.

 No.883197

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>>883196
Ponies've fallen countless times in the show without issue. It's not something that could be considered consistent.
I think the show would've treated actual attempted murder a bit more seriously, if it were that. If it were attempted murder, none of the rest of the show at that point makes any sense. Gilda should've been arrested, or otherwise kicked out.
That obviously didn't happen, however, because it isn't treated as 'attempted murder'.

 No.883199

>>883195
Are Rainbow Dash and Gilda in lesbians with each other?

 No.883200

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>>883199
Of course not.

 No.883201

>>883197
lots of ponies do awful potentially fatal things and are quickly forgiven.  Only a select few are exterminated or incarcerated in Tartarus so that argument doesn't hold water.

However, I can agree that the handling of such things IS inconsistent so I'll leave it there.


>>883199
The MAS version of this question is quite amusing.

 No.883339

>>883201
>The MAS version
What's that?

 No.883378

>>883197
Why is that laser beam going through Gilda's butt hole?

 No.883407

>>883339

"mentally advanced series"

 No.883592

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>>883378
It's going besides her, towards the left. Though I think it'd make contact with her arm, but, still.


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