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Hey everyone! I hope everyone is doing well! As of this date (October 11th) it is National Coming Out Day! a time to celebrate the LGBT community, and to wear our pride on our sleeves! In so many places and communities, there is still so much shame, prejudice, and ignorance that is used against the LGBT community, but they can keep their hate! because today is a day for us!


Now if you are not comfortable coming out, or have to keep yourself hidden for whatever reason, then we still love you and support your decision!

I am pansexual, and i've been open about it on here and with my friends! I take pride in who i am, and would never change it for the world! I also tend to be sexually fluid, in that my attractions change and shift quite a bit.

So if you are part of the community and have or want to come out, then you are welcome here! If you are straight or still closeted, you are also welcome!


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Why would they put National Coming Out day in the middle of Hispanic History Month (Sep 15th - Oct 15t) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Hispanic_Heritage_Month)

I mean, we don't even get a calander month and now we have to share it? This means only one thing. Hispanic people and Gay people will have to fight to the death to see who gets it! Arm yourself, Star.


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hmmm, i'd rather celebrate both (although i'm not hispanic)

there are hispanic LGBT people out there, so why choose?


You don't have to be Hispanic to celebrate Hispanic people's contributions to American society.

But June is already LGBT pride month! Why don't we move Coming Out day to June? That way we can both have equal calendar time!


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well i love the hispanic contributions to american society, and would feel my life would be significantly worse without it

but here's the thing, there are alot of holidays outside of the month of Hispanic History Month


i mean, Dia de los Muertos is literally spanning from Halloween through November 2nd!


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If you're pansexual does that mean you really like Tinkerbell?

I do!


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Oh hey, I was unaware that there was a designated Coming Out Day. But of course there is. That's awesome.

Happy Coming Out Day to those that have/desire to do so.


I'm bi but I've always felt sorta bad about saying that because I'm into most girls but only into specific guys. So, it made me feel shallow whenever I was into a guy because I'm only into some of them.

So, I tend to go with Hetero Flexible. But, I'm bi. But that doesn't mean I have to follow specific rules.


Of course it doesn't.
The "not bi enough" thing is utter nonsense, buddy.

Call yourself what feels best to you.
Or at least, that's what makes the most sense to me. But I may not have much of a say in the matter.


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can't say that she isn't cute, but i'd think our personalities would clash a bit much

that being said, while i'm more into tall girls, i am still open minded

tbh, i just learned about it today

>hugs and kajis <3

thanks esh! i know you are a wonderful person and are more than welcome to hang out!

Hey Beemo! that is okay if you prefer girls and still be Bi. That just means that you are closer to a 1 or a 2 on the kinsey scale


>hugs and kajis <3

you are welcome and valid my friend <3

Rainbow is awesome! and perfect for today!


Yeah, because of the origins of Halloween.

November First is All Saint's Day. November 2nd is All Souls Day. On November 1st the Saints make their way back to the land of the living, followed by our ancestors on the 2nd. So because of that the barrier between the world of the living and the world of the dead is at it's weakest the night before All Saint's Day. All Saints Day used to be called "All Hallows Day". Halloween is literally "All Hallow's Eve". It's also where some of our Halloween traditions come from. We dress up like spirits so they evil spirits won't bother us.

Day of the Dead celebrations spans all three days for that reason.


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What if one is already out?

Should one come out again?


I'm welcome at the LGBT+ party? Yaaay!

Wait, weren't you the one who assessed me as a bear once, now that I think about it?

Celebrate the act of coming out!


But, it's definitely how I've been

Thanks <3

I just know that people don't even feel safe to be bi, and I can't even claim to be bi >.<


Oh I get it... He's a bear... that's why the character is gay. I just got that.


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if at first you don't succeed, bi bi again.

>likes taller girls than Tink
Why, that's straight-up discrimination, dude!  Shameful behavior especially on coming out day!!

Tbh Star I'm kinda struggling with the definition of what I am.  I've never liked "bi" because I like who I like regardless of gender and "bi" implies binary gender and I kinda have a thing for nonbinary, trangendereds, etc....so I kinda went with "pan".  Which my GF doesn't like by the way just cuz how the word sounds, it's like a cooking implement.  But when I looked up the def of Pan, it implies strongly a single partner regardless of gender but....I'm greedy.  I kinda want it all, you know?  Not particularly poly but...after 6 years with the same girl I have this year been like, in heat for a man....I think I've gotten some heat around here for that actually...just hitting on anything with a penis that moves.  How am I supposed to be satisifed with just one non-hermaphrodite person if I don't want "any" but want it ALL in particular?

What word describes this.  Yes, yes, slutty, I know but what nonsubjective descriptive word describes this condition of wanting to have a complete set of genders in bed with me to feelsatisfied.


I don't doubt you. Just saying, ultimately, choosing what you feel suits YOU best

Other way around. The character is pictured as a bear because he's gay.
Similarly, "Fox" is another word akin to "twink" to signify a young-looking man.

But yes.


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and that is awesome! i am so fascinated by Dia de los Muertos, halloween, and all that stuff. I did pick up a lot that off of Coco, but i'm glad you explained some of the other days and their relavence!

>hugs and kajis <3

i mean, i already came out years ago, so i think you should be okay

but that's up to you!

>hugs and kajis <3

and welcome to our humble little thread <3

absolutely bro! you are most welcome, and i will vouch for you!

and i said you look like a bear, and would probably attract suitors based on that!

thats the reason why pride exists, why this day exists! because we shouldn't feel unsafe being who we are! and you are Bisexual, and that is who you are!

don't worry about semantics, this is no race, there is no necessary limit to reach; you are welcome!

i know right? i love it!

but it's not really, it's purely preference. She could change my mind if i went out with her

>I've never liked "bi" because I like who I like regardless of gender and "bi" implies binary gender and I kinda have a thing for nonbinary, trangendereds, etc....so I kinda went with "pan".  

pan works! sounds very pan to me

>Which my GF doesn't like by the way just cuz how the word sounds, it's like a cooking implement.
oldest pan joke in the book :PP

>But when I looked up the def of Pan, it implies strongly a single partner regardless of gender but....I'm greedy.  I kinda want it all, you know?  Not particularly poly but...after 6 years with the same girl I have this year been like, in heat for a man....I think I've gotten some heat around here for that actually...just hitting on anything with a penis that moves.  How am I supposed to be satisifed with just one non-hermaphrodite person if I don't want "any" but want it ALL in particular?

that still sounds pan to me. there are 2 different types of pan (maybe more, but i mostly know these 2)

one is the one that "doesn't care what your gender or sexuality is" which is what i am

the other is "attracted to all genders and sexualities" which is what you are

we are just 2 different types of pan my friend

you could also be polyamourous, which is cool my friend. no need to feel shame about your sexual hunger dude, as long as all members involved are consentual and not being lied to


I couldn't keep up with all the gay slang. It's like, straight couples don't have slang words to describe different types of partners. So it's all very confusing to me.


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gregg rules ok?

i tend to favor twinks myself :33


Yeah, Coco was a great film.

But still, we need to square this issue. I think all we need to do is move Coming Out Day to the middle of June. That way it's in the middle of gay pride month. So people can feel proud when they come out.

Then we'll give an actual calendar month to Hispanic History month! Probably September.


"It's cool, guys, he's totes progay."

I guess I am just too used to think of Bears as being a specifically hairy-body thing, but it really does just mean "big dude" as far as I'm aware. I just found it funny to get labeled like that :p

No ,but Straight couples have also not had to hide from the public for decades to centuries to avoid getting assaulted to straight up murdered for the heinous crime of being attracted to eachother.

See, this knowledge does not surprise me in the slightest.


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Then I will come out again.

Hi, I'm Andrea and I am transgender.


Yeah >.<

I always felt like it was for the more oppressed. And, as a vaugely straight-ish white guy who's into mostly feminine types, I'm not really oppressed.


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Parents and friends know.

Only select coworkers do.


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that's actually an interesting comment!

you know why there is so much slang, puns, and innuendo in the LGBT+ community? because it acts as sort of a code and barrier in language

jokes and innuendos are used because there is always a chance that there could be an aggressive reaction to any perceived flirting. So if a gay person needs to, they can just say "lol dude, it was just a joke, chill out!" and it keeps them safe

look, i'm okay with this holiday as is, and honestly we can just enjoy these holidays and events together

like, let's be queer and eat tacos! i mean, regardless of sexuality, tacos are amazing!

but i'm all for making a calander month hispanic history month. and while i'm celebrating my Coming Out Day today, i can celebrate with you any time!

well, judging by your vids, you have a lot of facial hair and glorious viking hair, and while i haven't seen your body, i feel you are perfectly "bear" to me. I think that the idea of being a Bear is that you are Queer yourself, and i don't wanna make any pre-judgements on your sexuality my friend

and is it that obvious?

welcome andrea! and thank you for sharing that about yourself, and you are loved and respected here <3

>huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugs <3

It belongs to all of us queer folk, regardless of levels of oppression. the history of LGBT+ is one that has always been filled with oppression and hate from others, and having to stand together and help eachother out. the fact that you don't feel oppressed means that the many years of standing up and fighting the stigma related to the LGBT+ community is helping people feel safer and more connected

it's not a perfect world by any stretch, but the fact that you are feeling that way means a world to people that have struggled to make it that way

hey toybox <3

>hugs and kajis <3

thank you for coming and sharing that with us! you are loved here :33


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Hullo Andrea!  Nice to re-meet you again.

That's cool, it's always good when my guess turns out to be the right answer even though there's another def that kinda seems wrong.

So I guess I just, need a bigger pan then to fit it all in there.  Yeah no dishonesty here, and she kinda confronted me with my obviously roving eye a month or two ago and it was a good time to bring up I haven't been joking about pegging references...I don't want to lewd up your thread (actually I DO but...) so let's leave it at she's not disinterested in my ideas.  So, might be Yay?  we have to see.  a lost pony is optimistic tho!

pic unrelated.


>A lot of facial hair
I mostly keep it to a goatee. Mustache is usually a result of forgetting to shave for a while. I have no real body hair except, well, the non-ponyville-friendly area.

Nah, I'm straight. But I find it funny to know that's what I'd be considered.

I dunno about 'obvious' it would just be my first guess based on some of your aesthetic preferences in characters you post. But then, I suffer from severe waif-itis and the stuff I'm attracted to can vary wildly, so who am I to say.



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I usually don't make a big fuss about it. I'm not the type that builds their entire persona around being the way I am.

But yeah, I have to keep it on the down low a work just to avoid problems.


I wouldn't get mad. I'd just be like "sorry dude, I don't swing that way." If a gay person flirted with me. It'd be awkward as all Hell, yeah. But no one would be in any danger. The worst thing that could possibly happen is I'd get annoyed and tell them to leave me alone in a rude way.

And don't use Tacos as short-hand for Mexican heritage! We are having burritos!


>Don't use tacos we are having burritos
I am trying my VERY hardest not to just post Cartman and his Jennifer Lopez hand right now.


It's still Hispanic History month for another week! Don't do it!


My hand is just HOVERING over the youtube link and the ctrl+c command.


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I'd have done it but too much effort to find the image.
*pinches you inappropriately

Yes they do.  I didn't even know "bear" went gay, that's a term for big chested guys with lots of hair and I think if you asked a majority of straight people what it means they'd be like me and think that was the answer.




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hey guys, i gotta bounce and teach a class. i'll be back on later after i do some homework

keep the thread friendly please!
i remember what i've seen in videos and talked about with people. "sexuality is a path of discovery, not something that is set in stone. you could be straight one day, gay the next, and be right both times. it's not 'right or wrong' it's 'what do i feel?'"

i had no doubt you were right the first time, but even if you weren't; i wouldn't say you were wrong then either.

we have all types of pans and sizes!

hey, as long as it remains in the rules of the site. although i want people to feel safe coming in here, so maybe not too lewd, just suggestive or saucy for now

>hugs and kajis <3

i gotta go! i will be back later!

a very nice goatee <3

and i'm always happy to help when i can! i can tell you what you look like and remind me of quite a bit :))

you are right on the nose! i do tend to have preferences in pics and characters.

>hugs and kajis <3

i gotta jet! be back later!

well, i'm glad you would not be violent or angry, but it's not always the case. so language of jokes and innuendos are still important

and i'm pan, so i'll enjoy tacos, burritos, tostadas, and whatever else is available!

>hugs and kajis <3

i gotta jet!

i get it, and that is totally fine! i could imagine that it would be a bit of a pain if you don't wanna deal with drama or questions

but if you ever wanna let your flag fly, then i'd support that too <3

>hugs and kajis <3

later toybox! ill be back later!




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I didn't know you ever came out.


Well, glad you're happy and can celebrate yourself!


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Yeah well I've agreed to even quit with the big mac in tutus until we get the nsfw filter implemented.  It was making someone I care about uncomfortable.

PinkymelDansen time!!


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I hope I am.


I suspect I might be intersex too, but not in any immediately obvious way. It would all depend on whether or not karyotype and/or genetic testing might confirm what I've suspected for a number of years.


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Did Rainbow Dash ever come out as a lesbian?  It's been a while since I've watched the show.


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Thank you for this thread, Star on the Christmas Tree!Fly7Mr.meQ.  I'm doing well.  I'm glad people allow some coming out.  I am mostly asexual.  Details on the minority of my sexuality will not be available on this site.  I don't think anyone can say the assertion of asexuality is "sexually charged" so that content should be safe.


You're asexual?


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Nope as far as we know she's unspecified, but Lyra and Bon Bon have been seen exchanging presents happily on Hearts n Hooves day.

If there's been any actual hinting about Rainbow being a lesbian I haven't picked up on it.  She's just rainbow colored :pinkie11:

I know you are loved and respected here and if anyone says or acts otherwise I'll punch them in the snoot.

Gosh that's pretty cool.  Self-discovery should be a wonderful and fun thing.  Make sure you let me know if you ever need someone to listen or anything.




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Yup, one of nature's Darwin awards.  No one understands sexual development, but it does make you wonder if there are mechanisms to prevent overpopulation.


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Eh, I don't know if it's really a top priority thing though. If it turns out I have 3 sex chromosomes, then it doesn't change much, it would just explain the way I am


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Well sure, an extra chromosome could make you smarter I guess haha.



It might not be a trait selected for, it might be one of those side effects of what was evolved, like wisdom teeth or male nipples.

And if it has any evolutionary benefit, it might be in how it benefits the reproductive success of others, or how it guides behavior and social role in such a way to benefit the survival of others' offspring. Basically, in how it supports copies of one's gene's that are in the genomes of other individuals


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Can 23andme tell whether that's the case?


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That's generally not true ....

Though I don't think having two X chromosomes in addition to a Y chromosome really ahs any bearing on intellectual ability, it mostly just effects hormone sensitivities.


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I looked that up and 23 and me doesn't actually perform a karyotype test.

The kind of test they perform takes thousands of samples of the same chromosomes and test for certain genetic markers, it doesn't actually keep count of chromosomes. So if I had an extra X chromosome, it wouldn't be detected, all that would be detected would be the presence of genes on the X chromosomes and not the prevalence of them.

I would probably have to go to a fertility clinic to request a karyotype test, which is generally more expensive than the marker test 23andme does, and almost no medical insurance covers the cost of karyotype testing at a fertility clinic.


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Why is any of that needed.
Shouldn't we live our life in peace and not bring much attention to it.


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just making a joke...filling in "smart" for the "way you are"  oh well guess it wasn't hilarious.

Gosh it seems at the current point where we are on gathering scientific data to study the biological foundations of transgenderism etc that testing for the missing and extra sex chromosomes would be a thing.  


maybe because people need support and validation especially when swimming against the mainstream current?


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Visibility is an important step towards being able to live one's life in peace and without fear of devastating, even life threatening repercussions from social fall out. It's an important step in convincing and asserting to others of your right to exist as you are, in peace.

To be fair, not all people who identify as transgender neccesarily have atypical karyotypes, and people who have that kind of atypical karyotype do not always identify as transgender


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Relying on other people to coddle you is not what being an adult is about.
Society won't be your friend, and you can't force them to accept you. In most eyes, you will just be a freak and, at the end of the day, all that "support" you got will mean nothing. It will just be empty praise and empty pride for something you did not do, but for something you are. But that's just my opinion.

The people who will actually hurt you do not give a darn about any show you might give them. The more they see you, the more they will "counter-attack". Have you seen how many homophobes and anti-everything have spawned in recent years? It's all a response to how things are atm.
I just keep my own stuff behind a massive steel gate, and that seems to work for me. The sooner you realize the world is grim and will not care about you, the sooner you work only for yourself and try not to care much about "social issues".
Nihilistic? Maybe. But it checks out.


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Is there a national "coming inside" day too?  :-)


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of course.  But until a statistically significant amount of data is gathered, whether the various combinations have any impact at all isn't understood.  In the 80s when I learned about it in school I was surprised how little significance is placed on odd sex chromosome combinations.  Seems like an important thing to understand.

Your statement does highlight the double-edged sword of scientific information:  an incomplete understanding based on "science" can be worse than no information depending on how it's applied.  I personally have always believed that how you feel you are is the most significant thing.

it's also an opportunity to network with others so you don't feel alone among strangers.

That's part of why I carry a Pinky plush with me everywhere, it's a signal to those who might want to talk ponies with me as well as a comfort.

that's everyday, when do you want to come over?


Go play with your neopets, italo


o behave, Fizzle.


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Meh I guess I can see it. But this all will also make strangers who do not like that sort of thing easier to target te people, if you know what I mean.

[Third Degree]
Please keep posts generally respectful towards others;


>The people who will actually hurt you do not give a darn about any show you might give them. The more they see you, the more they will "counter-attack". Have you seen how many homophobes and anti-everything have spawned in recent years? It's all a response to how things are atm.

I think that is rather presumptuous. The majority of those prejudiced against LGBT people do not see themselves as prejudice at all, they just believe they what they think they know about LGBT people is "just the way it is". At the core of their prejudice and bigotry is fear of LGBT people and the only real way of of breaking down that fear is through normalization, which means being visible and showing that we've been here this entire time. That we aren't some space aliens come to eat babies and whatever, but that we are people with just traits no different than things like dominant handedness.

Yeah, it's difficult live with human fear of difference and those whom we see as "outsiders" (and to some degree those of us who struggle against it can be hypocrites in that regard), but the only real means we have to mitigate it is through that normalization, to make ourselves less unusual and to appeal to the shared belief in our rights.

It's difficult and it has been difficult and it has seen backlash before. But it's working we are in a place far better than generations before us because of the assertion of rights and the visibility that those in the past decades sought to build.

I wouldn't assert that anyone is obligated to make themselves visible, but it's necessary that someone make themselves visible and keep asserting their, and our, rights to exist.


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Please be nice, Pranky! i'm not sure if that was an insult or not, but if it was, please try to be civil, dear friend.


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>At the core of their prejudice and bigotry is fear of LGBT people and the only real way of of breaking down that fear is through normalization
Is it really normalization if we bring notice into anything LGBT related?
"Today is the month to remember LGBT people exist. Remember that! Let us also remind you this with handy-dandy rainbow symbol"
Day 2:
"Don't forget LGBT people exist! Remmeber that..."
Day 24:
"Don't forget LGBT..."
Dunno if you get what I mean here. One big example I have had some months ago was in pride month. SCP Foundation changed their logo to a rainbow, which makes no sense. LGBT has NOTHING to do with SCP and it all felt just so forced and tacky. It ruined my vibe and did not made me feel "proud to be" at all, you know.

>I wouldn't assert that anyone is obligated to make themselves visible, but it's necessary that someone make themselves visible and keep asserting their, and our, rights to exist.
Well, if I'm truly honest, the people who make themselves "visible" make some things a lot harder for the people who don't care about such things. It's like they parade 24/7 what they are. I do not know if I'm making myself understood here, so please feel free to ask me.

Nab that ban.


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guys, this is a thread of celebration and acceptance, not of arguing whether or not it is needed

if you want to argue the discourse of coming out and all that, you can make another thread, otherwise, i want this one to be a safe place for people, okay?


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Sorry. It just seemed like the best place to get some discussion going. I'll zip now.



The expression of pride is a symbolic act of defiance against those who would assert that you should be ashamed of who you are.

Even if such things like rainbow symbols seem tacky and sometimes out of place in some situations, which I agree with, I still am glad to see them as evidence that such efforts are working and there are plenty of people and groups out there willing to say they accept us.

And even if it is tacky and sometimes makes me feel like some people see me as only an LGBT person and not as someone more complex (which, lets be honest, everyone see everyone else they meet as a member of an identity group first before they see them as an individual). I would still much rather see that than the opposite. Hell, it was pretty much the primary reason I avoided places like MLPChan and /ef/ since seeing the opposite there as often as I did made it feel like any sort of expression of acceptance was ultimately insincere.

>Well, if I'm truly honest, the people who make themselves "visible" make some things a lot harder for the people who don't care about such things. It's like they parade 24/7 what they are. I do not know if I'm making myself understood here, so please feel free to ask me.

No, I understand and I get the sentiment, believe me, I understand it probably more than you would guess given what I have said here already.

It's kind of an inevitability that those who see a tribe of outsiders first and foremost are going to see things like that and think the worst or who just form whole new other stereotypes that confirm their prejudices. People are like that, we have confirmation biases, none of us are entirely the exception. But these kind of things have been going on for a long time, and well, they are working, just compare where we are now to where we've been. Backlashes happened, but they eventually waned and gains were made.


Sorry I had a lot to say and was almost done when you posted this



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I mean, I'm out as a pansexual but I'm definitely not out IRL as being trans.  Unfortunately live in a pretty conservative place so coming out about the later is... kinda dangerous. (not to mention I'd probably lose my last somewhat IRL friend)


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>how it benefits the reproductive success of others
Kin selection, yes.  Some other species (squirrels, for example) have reproductive inhibitors -- mating seasons may be skipped in bad years.  Human sexuality dosen't have seasons, so if there were a system, it might work on individuals.  I don't know, though, and probably won't since studying sexual development is sorta taboo for humans.


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thank you for being respectful, and have a good one!

hey it's all good, and thank you for keeping things civil too

i understand having a big post and not wanting to waste it, and it certainly is a good one!

thanks pranky! i think i came out officially like 4ish years ago? i can't remember

>hugs and kajis <3

and thanks for joining the thread dude!

hey flower! ace's and dragons are more than welcome my friend!


>hugs and kajis <3

hey, this site is safe for work. but i bet we could make it that way later if you want ;))


>hugs and kajis <3

thank you for sharing! and i'm sorry you live in a place that makes it unsafe for you to be out, i hope that one day you find yourself in a place and peace of mind to let yourself be free IRL

until then, you are always welcomed here <3


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why are you linking me in this?  I'm not arguing with anyone.

If you wanna fight, let's meet up.  Winner gets to be on top!


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sorry, it was a shotgun approach, you just got caught in the crossfire

>hugs and kajis <3

what if i don't wanna be top?



then you have to let me win? i guess


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i could if you like to roleplay <3


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Not much I can respond to you without breaking OP's wishes lol. But I think you can kinda tell what I mean with my posts, don't you?

Yeah, the last thing I want to do is make anyone feel uncomfortable.
Albeit I do feel a bit uncomfortable with threads like this. But it's difficult to explain.


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sure if you want to.  I like to switch.



I meant in terms of behavioral roles. In the wild, many species have been shown to display same sex sexual behavior. Pairbonding mail penguins for example are generally a pretty common thing. Now that might not be conducive for thoe male to propigate their own genes, but frequently, those pair bonded males often play the role of "godparents" to chicks of other couples whose parent penguin might say ... die for whatever reason. The male penguins act on the same basic nurturing instinct other penguins do and effectively insure the survival of the offspring regardless. The fact that this involves a same sex sexual relationships is not really relevant, it's like the side effect, the wisdom teeth of the relationship if you will, and what benefits the species is the godparent role they play.

That's why variant sexualities are as common as they are amongst the more social, community forming species like herding ruminants, birds, and other primates. Because it's possible in each species that the presence of variant sexual behaviors serves a social role that, indirectly, strengthens the ability of the species to survive as a communal organization.


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I'm glad you didn't run off.  Your points are valid.

Stay, and enjoy the dancing!


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you are quite correct about that.

The misperception that only the successfully reproducing couples are evolutionarily selected for is an oversimplification at best, as it assumes mitosis rather than meiosis and a gene pool as well as putting mortal individuals center-stage whereas genes are the real focus and potentially immortal.


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well i can't say i truly understand, but i do believe you when you say that it makes you a little uncomfortable. and i thank you for being respectful for my wishes

if it is something you ever wanna talk about, we could talk about it in a different thread, or if you wanna talk about it privately, i can do that too. until then, you are welcomed, and will be respected here <3

sounds like a plan then ;33

see, i knew about this kind of stuff, and this is exactly what i like to reply to people who try to take on a purely biological standpoint to why homosexuality is bad

like, there are sooooo many different factors that are involved that are not just reproduction. and same sex mates have a benefit to the population in their own ways


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>if it is something you ever wanna talk about, we could talk about it in a different thread
Nah. I'll just get insulted again from people like >>844629
I would hate to be your crybaby. Bet you have many people already crying on your shoulder. But I do feel lonely so if you want to chit-chat and be friends then that's OK with me or something.



Did kinda prove your point for you.:pinkie11:



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pranky is a friend of mine, and i can ask him to leave you be if you are talking with me; i just wanna keep the peace in the thread

and everyone needs somebody to talk to and to have their words be heard ya know? so i'd be happy to do that for you if you need it.

i am a bit of a busy guy, as i have to write notes and develop shot layouts and setups for a scene i'm directing tonight. but still, feel free to ask when you need to, and i can listen when i can :))


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You're welcome.  Thanks, I hope so!
How's it been?


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it's been good, busy but good!

i've been working on my directing class, i'm gonna be filming my scene in 2 weeks, so i need to have my paperwork, shot lists, and actors ready next week to prepare for filming

other than that, i've been working and schooling!

what about you? it's been a while yo!


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uhhhhh i'm gonna stop you and say, I'm not being a cool dude here.

You needn't step in for my defense here, I am at fault.


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oh. sorry.  

I'm glad you didn't go away, and the points you made were fine and Pranky's statement was a good example of how people will always have to deal with naysayers.

Also Star commanded that we dance so I was posting some gifs.


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Oh OK. That makes sense.
I'll post this dancing gif then.

>and everyone needs somebody to talk to and to have their words be heard ya know? so i'd be happy to do that for you if you need it.
Alright then. If you want.

Wouldn't want to keep you more busy but hey, new friends are cool. Add me to discord if you want. Or something.


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dude, i know you were reacting to him bringing in his comments and whatnot. and i respect that you were trying to defend me and the thread. i'm just trying to keep the peace here

i would have probably done the same if the roles were switched.

but we are now past the moment, and in this moment we are all cool now. so we cool?



i'll edit this once you got it :))



That and the fact that there is a tendency to assume a one-to-one relationship between genes/biological traits and effect. It fails to consider that a single trait can have multiple effects, and where one effect may be detrimental, the other effect may be beneficial (in certain context) and thus selected for despite the detrimental aspects.


It's a facile argument against the idea that homosexuality can be natural.


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ooh i learned a new word! thanks! this is a very good word!


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yeah I'm done


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>hugs and kajis <3

what's up in your world?



it's that sort of conclusion-jumping to "good" or "bad" that really scares me about "fixing" genetic things.  Very little is simply good or bad in all contexts.


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But are you gonna be in the show in S9 or what.  You've been touring Equestria all S8 and it's about time you pulled your weight before the show ends.


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I see.


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Good good!

Nice!  Didn't know you taught a class!  Does sound like lots of work.  Is the class your job, schooling, or both? lol

Not too much has changed really.  I'm mostly still trying to get over the internet and computer restrictions that were on me from mid 2012 to 2017; the anxiety that gave me is why I'm still scarce even though said restrictions are gone. 6_9
Still working on making a game with an Indie Studio on the side (although we've switched to a Tower Defense game as the previous game had us burnt out), while going to a job rehab program to work with my anxiety, depression and cerebral palsy to help get a job.


To be honest, I'm not all that sure asexuality is even real. I figure they are just people with very low libidios who don't want to be bothered with the troubles of romantic relationships. If it were possible to just be completely devoid of sex drive, I would have done so years ago.


Watching a two-hour video for schoolwork.

Doing so would require Emily Blunt to be onboard, so no.


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hey einhorn!

>hugs and kajis <3


it's taichi and kung fu stuff! which is a lot of fun!

you are making games? that is freaking incredible!

ah, that sounds like a rough road, and i hope you find the program that is perfect with you

asexuality is very real, people can have no sex drives

also, for the sake of the thread, i will have to ask you to refrain from questioning the legitimacy of asexuality or any other LGBT things. if only because this is a thread for celebrating people coming out and being comfortable with themselves, and having somebody question that would be very disconfirming to them

ah geeze! what is the vid on?



true. I think some people are of the belief that there is an ideal genetic state, i.e. that evolution is progressing to some point. When really all it is is change in alle frequency in response to changes in the environment.


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Star teaches people how to beat people up!!

dang is that the hold-up?  Hrumpf.

a lost pony does not truly believe that drangonpunchers are real.  I haven't seen one, has anyone else here?  Probably just some fake footprints and shadowy videos is all the evidence there is.


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alright! i'm gonna be away to Scorcese and Tarintino up this project!

i'll be back on later! so keep on having fun!

>huuuugs and kajis <3

thank you dude <3


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Sounds awesome then!  Probably exhausting though. lol

Yeah, first one is called Hex Complex that's a third and first person shooter with light RTS elements (except actual people are playing as each character).  Has a big hexagon motif and so far the 'story' may be that it's a simulation aliens setup and abducted people from various points in history.  However we've been making that one since before Fortnite was even out (and we had parachuting in [then removed] before they had lol) so we're not so hot on it atm.  So we're now making a very simple tower defense game.  I doubt we'll make much from either of the games, so it's mostly to have something to do for me.  I generally do 3D modeling and Graphic Design.

Mhm, thanks.


Take care!


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I'm demisexual and I'm sorta out about it. I'm sure lots of irl people just think I'm gay, because Andrea isn't really out as trans so we just look like a gay couple and it's too much effort to try to explain what demi is. I think I told my parents and one of my brothers and that's it. The rest can think of me what they will.

And uh, yay for everyone else and their lgbtness!


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I love nachos


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Bisexual here. I first realised I was bisexual when I fell in love with my best friend in high school. I thought it might have been a phase, so I asked her if it seemed unusual, then she told me she felt the same way, so we started going out. Being both girls, we easily passed as just friends, but one day after we'd been dating a while, I decided to just straight up tell my parents we were more than that, and they were quite accepting of it.
Even though I've given up on dating other girls on account of how I'm pickier with girls than I am with guys and that not many girls swing that way, I still feel very bisexual on account of getting the hots for both men and women.


straight :trixie6:


Aw dang...
It's the 12th now. :fluf5:

Better save it for next year then! :fluf4:


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I'm back! i have all my shots listed and story boarded! now i just need to do my script analysis and then it's all just directing!

hey chrome! thank you for sharing with us, and welcome to the the thread! i hope you have been doing great today <3

hey thorax!

>hugs and kajis <3

thank you for sharing, and i didn't even think about how your relation with Andrea might be misconstrued like that, it sounds like it is a unique challenge

and yay for all of us!

i love nachos too! they are delicious!

>hugs and kajis <3

did you bring any?

hey vi!

>hugs and kisses <3

thank you for sharing! i think you told me this story before, but i'm happy you feel comfortable and safe to share! and i mean, both men and women are totally hot, so i don't blame you

hey, straight friends are always welcome!
>hugs and kajis <3

glad to have you on board boatlight!

still the 11th in my neighborhood, so the party is still going strong!


Coming out in the wrong timezone feels wrong.:fluf2:
I better just wait... What's another year in the grand scheme of things? :fluf3:


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look, i won't tell nobody if you decide to come out outside of the day

it can just be our little secret



the rest of the people in this thread


One day.


No no, it is okay.
If there's a day for it then it has to be used. What's the point of a special day if everyone just comes out on other days all willynillylike?:fluf5:

Maybe I will get my chance next year.:fluf3:

Next year, if I remember. :fluf2:


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i got a secret!

do you wanna hear it?


Is it spill the beans day?
If so then spill the beans :fluf4:


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Hello, happy 'Out' day everyone.


I would not remember either.


Maybe Star will post earlier. :fluf4:

At least you got your tacolove out there.
How does it feel to be out of the tacloset? :fluf1:


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Or maybe, not-so-sexual lol

You know, I think you're the only person I've known that is demisexual and I've been wondering about this...
May I ask if you still have physical attraction preferences or is it just anyone you end up close with regardless of appearances (the preference instead being the character/personality)?

Good good!


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no, that will be tomorrow!

the real beans is this

you can come out any day of the year

hello heavy!

>hugs and kajis <3

how are yooooooooou?

i gotta say, i'm kinda envious of your game developing job! like it must be hard, but so freaking rewarding!


>>844884 thanks


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how are you on this fine coming out day?


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Do you ever have those days where you hate everything?


>>844929 I came out to my car, so I can charge my phone.  How are you doing?


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Eh, not really.  With my depression and anxiety I don't work on it that often.  We've been working on Hex Complex since like, 2014.  And when I mean we're indie, I mean we're working out of one guy's basement indie.  We just do a google hangout twice a week to work on both games (mostly the Tower Defense but the main guy, the programmer, does do some Hex Complex work on Mondays).  We've been to quite a few anime and comic conventions to show it off, but not too much have come from that.  And even though I'm part of the problem, it sucks that we only have like 1 person who's constantly working on it.  Everyone else just kinda floats in and out.


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Me llamo Rosa

I'm still figuring out what I'm into.

>coming out to your car
Very thematically appropriate c:


>>844938 wise answer
bad pun :twi7:




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But what I don't understand is how it powered your phone

Does your car run on self-realization and openness about yourself?


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Oh, whoops. Rosa sounds so nice, but is there a masculine way to say rose in Spanish?


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I thought the same and giggled idiotically. XD


Sure. But Rosa sounds nicer.


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once in a blue moon, usually when i have to wake up at 6am

why? did you have one of those days?

that's a very practical coming out! congratulations!

i'm doing fantastic! i found an amazing anime that i'm watching right now!

ah, that sounds rough, but that's the life of a small business it seems, at least in my experience. I do wish you great success in overcoming your depression and anxiety, as well as making awesome games!

>huuuuuuuuugs <3

hey rosa!

>hugs and kajis <3

take your time, life is a journey, not a race!

that is allowed here!


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I wanna hear it now, though!

Lol, glad I'm not the only silly one here.

Thanks, Star, 'preciate ya


>>844944 I stick my usb cable into its power jack.  It's an electrifying experience!
Nah, it runs on 87 octane. Just like me!
>>844947 :fluf2:
>>844950 thanks! what anime?


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how have you beeeeeeen? i haven't seen you in like 5evah!

what is rosa up to these days?

it's called Zombieland Saga and it's amazing!

it's about a group of Idol singers, but they are all zombies! it's freaking hilarious and fun!



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Ah the thread is being active again.
I guess that's nice.


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How are you, also?

I've been good, quite busy, I suppose.

Right now I'm studying for a double module, interning under my professor to get a foot in the door to the scientific community at my local university, working at a wine bar in the nights, getting my pump on at the local outdoors calisthenics gym, and leading a semi-active social life.


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Indeed.  Thanks man.

If I'm in the mood, I can get silly as fuck. XD



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I'm just being melodramatic.

Glad to see you are doing well.


>>844961 I'm on my phone so I'll have to pass, but it sounds crazy


>>844972 playing Hide the Rainbow? :trixie8:


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ohey, Einhorn, I wanted to ask you something ever since I saw a post where you complained that you weren't too crazy about naked furries and Evees

Is my current posting style in this thread uncomfortable to you? And if so is there anything I could do to be more accomodating of you?


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more active than a food truck on free taco day!


waaziziziziz up yo

i'm also busy, school, kung fu, working the rides at the north pole

you sound busy and a half! dang dude! is that all going well for you? also i would love to go to a wine bar!

of course!

have you ever seen zombie idol girls rap?

melodrama sounds like an oxymoron. like there is all this drama, but it's really pretty mello yo

thanks! and i trust you are doing well as well?

oh man it's amazing! there is only 2 eps of it out so far

but the first episode they played a death metal show. and the second episode they had a freaking rap battle!

i love it so so so so so so so much so far!


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Hello Rose.

>Is my current posting style in this thread uncomfortable to you?

No, I don't find it uncomfortable nothing at all.

>And if so is there anything I could do to be more accomodating of you?

If you  really feel happy posting as a naked furries or Eevees.
Then I'm happy.
Post whatever avatar you want to post as.

Not much just chilling for the moment.


Sounds like fun!

it couldn't be better ^_^


>>844985 hah, I'm glad you're enjoying it


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I haven't, though Zombieland Saga seems a bit interesting.

I'm gonna bed now though, so take care!


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Anyway, I gotta blast

see y'all



Have a good one!


guess I'm gonna go watch an interview, but I can't do that while posting because phone, so have a good night!


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i just got done watching an insanely good anime (at least the first 2 episodes of it) called "Zombieland Saga"

and it's freaking awesome so far! it's about girls who were killed and somehow were ressurected into zombies, and now they are in an Idol group to "save Saga" whatever the hell that means!

and it's freaking HILARIOUS!

my heart is so much happier knowing your life is doing good!

it also snowed at my place yesterday, and will snow again on sunday supposedly!

i mean, in 2 episodes, i know i've been hooked! it's just so freaking perfect thus far!

later dude <3

>hugs and kajis <3

goodnight wizard!

>hugs and kajis <3

stay awesome dude!

goodnight boatlight <3

>hugs and kajis <3


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Ah Zombieland Saga!

Yes I'm a watching it too.

One of my Overwatch Comp teammates recommend me it to watch. The guy who force me to watch Uma Musume when I lost a bet to him.
Yes is very funny.

I drew Sakura Minamoto for my Inktober drawing for today.


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oh my gosh! it is so freaaaaaaaking goooooooood!

that rap battle... twas a thing of beauty...

i love sakura!

but who could ever doubt the sheer brilliance of



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The rap battle was hilariously rad.
The Zombie girls Headbang in episode 1 was funny too.

The Anime has a cool reference with the zombie dog, Romero making a nice reference to George A. Romero the father of modern zombies

I love Sakura too!
I don't know why but all those zombie girls looks 100% Huggable.

Yeah Tae is a real genius of this era.


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the zombie headbanging and death metal music was amazing to me! i'm a metal head, so it's one of the quickest ways to my heart

i want a plushie of that dog!

they are! even as rotting corpses, they are all 100% huggable! Those LEGENDARY YAMADA TAE dakis are gonna fly off the shelves!

also when hiei was trying to climb over the fence, and sakura pulled her down, her arms came off and the eyeballs popped out? that was funny as heck man XDD


Today I learned.


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I'm not a fan of death metal but was cool that scene.

Is fery funny that dog is looks cute at all but when he do something like eating or barking the dog looks more scary hahaha.

I hope Tae wakes up soon to see how is her personality but I won't deny it even acting as a zombie is funny and cute chewing everything.

Yeah that was funny even I laugh when Sakura, Hiei and the other zombie girl scares accidentaly the rappers and the police again and later escaping.

AH by the way Zombieland Saga will get a Manga Adaptation


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"What i learned in boating school is




>hugs and kajis <3

hey fylk!

that dog is pretty terrifying! resident evil taught me zombie dogs are not to be trifled with

i dunno, i kinda want her to stay a zombie through the series! maybe have her turn back in the end or something

oh god the freaking rappers! they just rolled up in their rap van, then started rap cat-calling them? and the cop was rapping too? that was amaZING!

yes please! i want it!


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Let's see what Romero does in the anime.

Tae brillance it is without equal that's for sure.
Well let' see happen throught the series with the zombie girls.

Hahaha yeah.

Thanks for liking and rebbloging my Sakura's drawing


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you are most welcome! may we enjoy this show as it continues airing! i look forward to our zombie waifus!

>hugs and kajis <3

goodnight einhorn! i must rest! happy leaf ericcson day!


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Goodnight Judd take care.


>May I ask if you still have physical attraction preferences or is it just anyone you end up close with regardless of appearances (the preference instead being the character/personality

So I guess you could say I can see aesthetic differences. Like, yeah that person is traditionally attractive. But it doesn't move me towards wanting sex with them at all. You could even say I have preferences. Like I am into the feminine aesthetic and I am not into big muscles. But, I am still no more into the idea of having sex with someone feminine than I am with someone very masculine. Like, there is a disconnect between what someone looks like and actually bring sexually interested in them at all. I could happily sex up anything that can consent, if they met my other conditions.

Personality, my trust in them, and our intimacy together are basically the only things that matter. And since those are a high bar to meet, I've only ever wanted to have sex with very very few people. No celebrity crushes or anything like that. A difficult part of growing up and understanding my sexuality was that I wanted to have sex with nobody but I wanted to have a lot of sex at the same time. What a dilemma, lol.


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That's my take away from most schools.

Night though.


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im demisexual and trans..maybe.. gender stuffs still something im figuring out.

not really in a position of being able to come out irl at all just yet though.

its nice to hear things like this that are so close to the way ive felt and thought i was mostly alone in for a long time..

the only difference for me is that until i did meet someone i suspected myself of being completely asexual.. but yeah.. otherwise that totally resonates with me  


>>845011 the more I hear from you about this, the more it seems to match my own experiences.  But it's not quite accurate for me either.


Glad to have shared then. ^_^

Maybe we aren't perfectly the same but when your sexuality is such an outlier compared to everyone else, just finding someone pretty dang close to being like yourself can be nice. A lot of people don't understand how important it can be to feel like you aren't alone in your experiences. It's hard, feeling like nobody really understands you.

They have this term called gray ace (as in asexual) that I think applies. The gray is because you fall somewhere in the middle of being a sexual person and a non sexual person. You get some kind of partial experience of both parts. So I think we're both some partial form of sexual, and we understand each other's experiences to a degree, but at the same time it's just a little different too. How do you feel your experience differs?


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I guess since the topic has come up, I also sort of identify as demisexual ... sort of, the more I think about it now the more I think of the term as a "closest fit" rather than quite exact, maybe "grey ace" would be a better way of describing me.

So, for everyone else here, in this thread who thought they were the only ones, well ... it seems there are more of us here than we realized huh?


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yeah, for sure, its always really nice to feel understood and know you arent alone c:

that is totally fair, id say the same really. for a while i actually combined the terms and called myself "grey demi" but stopped doing that since, shockingly, combining two lesser known terms doesnt really clarify things for most people. who knew :p

but yeah! super interesting there'd be so many of us here c:


>>845018 I drive hundreds of conventionally beautiful girls around every week, but I have zero desire to have sex with any of them.  On rare occasions they might trigger a reaction from one of my fetishes, independent of sex, and I will still have no desire to have sex with them.  I don't begin to find someone sexually attractive until I've started getting to know them, but it doesn't take much for that gate to open.  There doesn't have to be a connection (conventionally speaking), and we might not have even talked much.  This explains why I never find models sexually attractive, same with the vast majority of actresses.  But there are also exceptions, like girls I've known well who I didn't find attractive regardless, and so ended up turning down sex with them.


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Went to work shortly after!


>I don't begin to find someone sexually attractive until I've started getting to know them, but it doesn't take much for that gate to open.  
But I guess just talking with them while ubering them doesn't clear the threshold?


>>845083  very rarely, though it has happened.


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I'm apparently going to a Furry party with a friend tomorrow.

So that should be interesting.


I hear they have gay orgies at those.


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If I end up sucking any dick you will be the first to know.


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The fuck happened to my name?


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It came out of the nametag.


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That's pretty fucking gay.


I... don't need the details, thanks.


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Seriously though it's not that kind of party.

I mean... I'm pretty sure it's not, anyway.


Just because it wasn't planned to be that kind of party doesn't mean it can't become that kinda party!


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I'm not sure what I'm going to wear to the party yet.


Go naked.


Wear a tux.


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I don't look good enough for that.

Believe it or not I was considering doing something similar if I can find something snazzy.

I absolutely adore the look of formal wear. I'll use any excuse to wear a tie.


I wear tshirts and shorts everywhere, so I'm the wrong person to ask. Still, I vote for going naked.

Atleast put on some cat ears for the furries!


It looks good.

I can't stand my workware because the uniform lacks a collar and is also a desperate attempt to look casual.


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We're actually going to a costume store in Old Town Sac before the party so if I find some I definitely will.

I wear t-shirts and jeans for work because it's practical but I HATE it. I want to wear something nice for a change.


I don't really like wearing anything more fancy than that. Clothes are very utilitarian to me. They only exist to cover my bare ass and balls and keep me warm.

Yeah, be a catgirl. It's a nice inbetween from going full-on furry.


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I hate boring clothing. I just wear them because I have to. Any time I can wear something fancy or awesome, I jump at the chance to.

Unfortunately most of my friends are complete nerds that have the same mindset you do, so if I ever do dress up I stick out like a sore thumb amongst my friends.


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Even the girls. One time I had to take a female friend of mine shopping and actually design an outfit for her because she had about as much fashion sense as a rock.

EVERYTHING she owned was like crazy pastel patterns or fucking polka dots. It was practically criminal. I was like, "Girl, we need to give you a makeover, stat. This is an emergency."


That's literally the girliest thing I've ever heard.


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You don't understand. I went to her house and started rummaging through her closet trying to find her something decent to wear and it was like digging through the closet of someone who's every fashion decision was made when they were 5.

It was REALLY bad.

Lime green socks? Who the fuck buys lime green socks? Why would you even do that?


Ok Rarity, I believe you. She was a fashion emergency.

Is she single? XD


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She's married and has 5 kids. I think. Maybe 3? I don't remember.


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And yes she was. She had ONE pair of heels and guess what?



So she was able to get a husband, despite her fashion sense being terrible.

Fashion sense does not matter confirmed!


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She was able to get a husband because she's better at sucking dick than I am.

Trust me, I know this from personal experience.


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Stop trying to turn me on.


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I'm not. I'm just being honest.


And it's turning me on!


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That's not my fault.


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Yes it is!


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I have no control over your boner.


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I really wish that was true!


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Yello, Vines!

Huh, fascinating!
I actually had no celebrity crushes either, due to the fact that most were maybe classically attractive on the outside but 'rotting' on the inside.  Also why I generally wasn't attracted to most in grade school.  Maybe I have a little bit of demi in me.
Yeaaaaaaaaah, that's one of hell of a dilemma. XD

Anyways, thanks for answering!
I usually thought of pansexual being the 'character/personality' sexuality, but it seems that demi is what actually takes that title.


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What, you still coming out in here? That was yesterday!


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I'm thinking I might go clothes shopping after work if I have time. I can buy pretty much anything I want no matter how unorthodox it is because I can just pretend it's for a Halloween costume.

I'm a goddamn genius.



I think "demi" implies to the exclusion of all other ways of being attracted to someone. I.e. it's like "demi" because it's half asexual, a person who experiences sexual attractions to people only via emotional connection not through sensation of something like the sight of another person. I think pansexual implies that one is capable of all types of sexual attraction.


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Makes sense.
Probably, though in my case I'm very picky on the emotional and character end.  If someone is say very physically attractive to me but they're a rather shitty person, the later overrides the former making said person repulsive.


>>845298 is there a complete listing of various types somewhere?  Seems kind of like a silly distinction tbh.  I could just as easily say I'm pansexual but I just happen to find 99.99% of people unattractive.  Or I'm bisexual but have never been attracted to a guy.  :pinkie11:



what I meant by type was how one is attracted to whom they are attracted. The whole premise behind the concept of a demisexual is that there are at least two ways that a typical non-asexial person experiences sexual attraction to another person, those being the immediately phsyical and attraction and desire developed over time. So ... the idea is that a demisexual is like "half asexual" in that they never experience the former, they only experience the later.

I don't know if I would say the term describes a sexual orientation per say, since I don't think the term implies any direction of attractions, but rather it describes how one works.

The distinction might seem silly, but I still think it's a valuable one to people who are demisexual themselves since their experiences can be quite confusing to themselves at various periods of their own lives.

So in short the distinction isn't the idea that they are two different sexual orientations, but rather that pansexual describes an orientation, and demisexual describes something else about it. I was just clarifying that to wizard here. I mean, in that regard to two terms, in some way, might not be mutually exclusive.


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So, does a demi-sexual fap by fantasizing about being in a romantic relationship with someone?


>>845341 so you could be a pandemisexual?  A pandemic!
Yeah that makes sense.
That ship has sailed for me, as the time when this might have been useful for me was 2 decades ago.
I'm still not convinced this describes me, which is why I'm curious about alternatives.  I'm not sure any of them accurately describe me, and I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case.


>>845343 that's what fetishes are for. :twi7:



Not necessarily, there is a difference between being attracted to a specific person and wanted to do something specifically.

Heck there are asexuals who have libidos, it's just not people they might be attracted to as much as certain acts.


I mean, I think these terms are more like best-fit categories, maybe a little loosely defined with a few fuzzy edges. I identify as a demisexual, but really only cause it comes closest to describing what I am like ... most of the time.


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Yeah, there's definitely no black and white lines when it comes sexuality.


>>845357 makes sense.  What's the difference between that and gray asexual?
>>845359 sure seems like it from the categories :pinkie11:


>I'm still not convinced this describes me, which is why I'm curious about alternatives.  I'm not sure any of them accurately describe me, and I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case.
I honestly don't think any demisexuals really experience things exactly the same way. All this demi and gray ace stuff, I just see it as a bucket for people that have various parts of their sexuality turned up or turned down in ways that are different from the normal sexual experience. So, you might be in that bucket, but aren't really very much the same as anyone else, if that makes sense.

>So, does a demi-sexual fap by fantasizing about being in a romantic relationship with someone?
I focus on physical and auditory sensation a lot. Instead of visualizing what a partner looks like, I imagine what it feels and sounds like. And thinking about an emotional connection with your partner is a huge plus, though sometimes it is also pretty great to just imagine you are desired and sought after too. Sometimes, I even just narrate what I want a sexual fantasy to be like out loud in my mind, that can be really hot!

>Yeah, there's definitely no black and white lines when it comes sexuality.
Dude, I could totally be sexually attracted to black and white lines if I formed some sort of emotional attachment to them!

I would think that demisexual is a subset of gray ace. Like, there were enough gray aces that thought this way that they'd make up their own term to make it easier to relate that experience to people quickly. That's my guess at least!


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>Dude, I could totally be sexually attracted to black and white lines if I formed some sort of emotional attachment to them!
Ex falso quodlibet!



Personally, I don't really know.

I think it's the least specific way of saying "somewhere between typically sexual and asexual" making it a catch-all for someone whose somewhat limited experience of sexual attractions is not well described by a term like demisexual.

I sometimes think of myself as a grey ace since I seem to have spent most of my life experiencing sexual attractions to strangers on rare occasions and seemingly with no discernible pattern to whom I founnd attractive. Though in recent years on their rare occasions that it does happen for me, it's mostly been with men.  


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>Ex falso quodlibet


>>845392 vote none of the above
>>845395 hmmm :dash7:
Still not sure how this is useful in practice


I dunno, some people just want to feel they belong. Others think labels don't carry much value, especially if they are as vague as this one. Maybe you fall in the second category?


>>845422 I mean....  It would have been useful years ago, when I've got an upset crying girl in front of me because I don't want to have sex with her, to say "it's not you. Is because I'm demisexual" but I didn't say that, so she just convinced herself I thought she was ugly or something.  Stupid shit like that.  But nowadays, that information is meaningless.  I don't introduce myself to people as "hi, I'm ⛵, I'm a demisexual"


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> I've got an upset crying girl in front of me because I don't want to have sex with her,
She just wanted you to fuck her out the blue without any romantic relationship?


>>845440 yes, though I had been friends with her for a year or so.


So she wanted to be FWB/fuckbuddies?


I can't even imagine how a girl wanting to have sex with you could be considered a problem.


>>845456 I think she wanted a relationship, but I wasn't made aware of that until she tried to have sex with me.

I recall another girl that I used to hang out with quite a bit.  We weren't dating but when we went to parties or bars, we'd sometimes end up making out, that sort of thing.  She came over one night and also tried having sex with me, but even as she was trying to fondle various things, I was not at all into it, to the point where we basically had that same awkward conversation, minus the crying part.


>>845467 it's kind of awkward if you aren't into it


I can't imagine not being into it either.


Um, did you miss the part where Boat explained that he is demisexual?



Not really sure what "demisexual" is, so it doesn't help much.


Just read the post, Boat explains in detail: >>845022


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He's only half sexual.


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This is a nice thread and I am glad it exists.

I'm not reading all the posts because no doubt there's almost certainly some complete nugget in the comments saying it's not needed or some BS like that


Hey butt, long time no see!


He could have had sex with half of her, then.

Sounds weird. Why can't we all just not be interested in sex? It would solve a lot of problems.


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>Why can't we all just not be interested in sex? It would solve a lot of problems.

Not until we find a solution to creating people.


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hello my friend


cuz everyone can't just "decide" to be asexual because it's easier


Why not? Why can't I be asexual if no one wants to have sex with me? Isn't it kind of shitty that I can't?

We can grow them in tubes.


>>845470 most people can't :pinkie11:
>>845477 it's a concept i only learned about yesterday.  It's an odd none-of-the-above designation but maybe it's fitting for me.  I'm still not 100% sure myself.
>>845479 I'm only half the man I used to be. :dash3:
>>845480 I've found it informative, a bit to my surprise if I'm being honest.
>>845482 would solve the problems associated with overpopulation to be sure.



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yeah, it is shitty, that's life. But this is like me saying to you, "why don't you just turn gay? It would be a lot easier"


It WOULD be easier! And it's shitty I can't do that either!


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Well, if it makes you feel any better, life is shitty for most of us. I'm a Certified Gay™ and i'm still out here not really caring about sex anymore


Uh... life certainly isn't shitty for everyone. Some people are rich, or have sex all the time. Or both!


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yeah but those are like really childish ideas of what makes life "not shitty." There's more to life than being rich and fuckin'. You shouldn't aim for that as your ideal goals of a good life


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anyone who knows me knows that i'm not the type after meaningless sex. But (I've heard) that sex feels good, and I tend to believe that since people do it and seek it out so often.

Being rich, though. Nah. That's a big step toward being happy. Nearly all the problems I have could be solved instantly with enough money. Never having to want for anything in life and being free to do what makes you happy because you don't have to worry about money IS what happiness is. By definition.


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Fair enough, hope you get rich and have sex then so you can finally feel happy


>Never having to want for anything in life and being free to do what makes you happy because you don't have to worry about money IS what happiness is. By definition.
Nope.  What can cause unhappiness in such a case is boredom.  Like playing video games on god mode isn't as fun as playing without cheating.


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I dunno, I have to go with Manley on this one.  There's plenty to do in life to entertain yourself other than working a job to earn money.


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Oh, certainly, I'm not claiming that boredom is inevitable.  But it does happen to some people.


What did you buy?


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i'm a bit on the fence about this one

on the one hand; happiness is not found in material things, it is something that is within us, and we can be content and happy without any material possessions

on the other hand: having money means paying for room and board, having money for food, being able to get insurance, and to get all the necessities in life

i wouldn't say that money makes you happy per say, but it certainly helps get rid of things that cause suffering.

hey toybox!
>hugs and kajis <3

what did you get?


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Some snazzy things. A couple pink ties, some dress shirts and pants, a vest and a super cozy light jacket. The inside is SO FUCKING SOFT OMG!


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i dunno, the pursuit of wealth as the most important and worthwhile sign of value is not a good thing and it's an unhealthy standard to hold yourself to, since the world is literally designed to make it near-impossible to achieve without luck and privilege

I think if you think you can be happy with just money, then awesome, and I envy it. but all the money in the world won't buy you company or love. It's nice, but it doesn't fix you as a person.


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Everything was on sale too. I ended up saving like $260 off the regular price of that haul.


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oh my god, that sounds cute as hell!

and good job on the savings <3

i agree with this fo sho!



Basically, money brings security


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If you have all the money in the world, you have the time to find company and love.  A lot of people's biggest problems are rooted deeply in not having enough money, just trying to live, some people working like 16 hours a day to support their family.  Removing the obstacle of needing money for things would be a huge boon to nearly everyone.

>on the other hand: having money means paying for room and board, having money for food, being able to get insurance, and to get all the necessities in life
>i wouldn't say that money makes you happy per say, but it certainly helps get rid of things that cause suffering.

Right, that's what I mean.  Not that since you have money it's done an you're happy, but it creates a much shorter road with fewer obstacles to finding happiness, which is something you still have to do when you're poor.


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Nice ties are fucking expensive. One of them was $50 on sale.


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honestly I wish I could think of things this straightforward and logically like you guys do sometimes


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security is nice; and i mean if you can find that without money, then you are golden. but most people in the modern world sorta don't want to become mountain people who live in the woods and hunt for their own meals

i will say there is also a flip side. while having comfortable amount of money does bring security, being poor can lead to more empathy for those around you, as well as the true nature of what you really have vs. what you don't.

yeah, it's harder, but it has it's own experience and worldly wisdom that can be it's own reward too.

that being said, it would be something i wouldn't want to find out unless i really had to

$50 for a tie? that's very pricey!

the last tie i ever owned was one i got at goodwill for $3


>but most people in the modern world sorta don't want to become mountain people who live in the woods and hunt for their own meals
Speak for yourself :aj7:


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see, you would probably do well without money


Sex with one person, hopefully. Someone kind. And cute!


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Yeah, but I really wanted it.

Look at it! It's fucking awesome.


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No threesomes for you?


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Ooh, sparkly!


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ooooooooo <3



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god don't I was gonna just leave it alone now he's gonna start explaining why having multiple partners is horrific and disgusting and evil YOU FOOOOOL


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Isn't it though?

On a black shirt it's gonna look fucking gorgeous.


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i've always wondered if having multiple partners would be right for me

i mean, i've got so much love to spread, ya know?

i bet it glows so beautifully on a black shirt <3


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This one was cheaper, only $25 on sale, but still super cute.


Prooobably not.


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so pink and soft looking! good choice <3


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I don't think I could ever share someone I cared about that much with someone, probably too selfish and jealous; more power to those for who it works, tho


>>845546 that's good because i have none
>>845558 the dynamics of doing that extend beyond yourself though


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i get that, and that is probably why alot of people are monogamous. but i've never been a jealous type, and as long as we have understanding and acceptance, i feel that it would work.

then you are already half way to being happy!

and i know, but then again everything beyond my body and actions are beyond myself, i must accept that things will happen beyond me in most situations


>>845569 happiness is not my goal

I just mean that, just because someone says they're ok with it, doesn't necessarily mean they're ok with it


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okay, that's cool as well

and i understand that, but that's why communication and honesty are important. If somebody is not okay with it, then i would want them to be honest with it.


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For me, I've never viewed sex as an emotional thing. I just see it at something fun that two people can do. Like two player masturbation.

So like, for me if someone I fuck wants to fuck somebody else it's like if a friend of mine is playing a video game with someone else. Like... Go for it, I don't have to be included in everything you do and we can fuck later. No big deal.


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I don't really mean in terms of sex tbh, more just in general. Like honestly at this point now sex just seems like more of a chore than a pleasure


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somewhat unrelated, but i just found this comic on my tumblr dash, and thought you would appreciate it


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Then you're probably doing it wrong. I can understand that sort of.

There's a guy that likes to fuck me but he's super into romance and shit and for me that's a huge turn off, so like... I can't really get into it as much as I'd like to because I'm not really having fun with it.

Nothing kills my mood harder than romance. Fucking hell.


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so you are very much an Aromantic then?

hello einhorn!

>hugs and kajis <3

how ar eyou this evening?


>>845571 I dated a girl who was polyamorous, even though I didn't like it I put up with it, because that was part of the package


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I was so blissfully happy and unaware before I started getting involved in stupid shit like sex and relationships, genuinely. It fucks ya up, mang.


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It was good. I kill and raped many overwatch players with Mercy tonight in special Pharahs and Sombras.

Those fuckers will remember my teabags with Mercy.
Emotional trauma? Probably
Hurt dps pride? Absolutely


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did you let her know your feelings about it?


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that's awesome dude, but in the future, can you not use the term "raped" like that? i'd appreciate that


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Christ, you people own ties?  Too fancy for me.  The fanciest piece of clothing I own is a camo pattern belt from high school.


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i love those canvas belts! they make for a good weapon if need be!

provided that you don't lose your pants!


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Very much so. You can call me a slut. Slap me around. Pin me to the floor or tie me up and I'll be fine.

Say you love me and I'll probably want to puke. Then regret everything and run away.

Like I said, I love formal wear. It's a big thing for me. I absolutely love ties, I just never have an excuse to wear them.

Tomorrow, however I'm going to a town that is a 2 hour drive away and will be around people who don't know me and I'll probably never see again, so I'm gonna go ahead and act like a massive prissy faggot while I'm out there because I can.


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alright guys! i gotta head to bed! stay beautiful and wonderful and proud!

as for me, i will sleep and dream of zombie girls!

good to know! and let it be known you are always welcomed and appreciated, slut :33

>hugs and kajis <3

goodnight toybox!


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What term will be best instead raped? then

Police Brutality, Border Police, Obamacare, Fast and Furious, Impaled, Narcocorrido, Spanish Inquisition, La Conquista Española, Destruction,  Putazos or This is America BANG!

I could use the word Putazo instead raped.
Yeah Putazos it will be and I won't change it


>>845592 yes and no.  In the end I kept my mouth shut to preserve the relationship.
This is what I mean.


i kinda like fast and the furious, just cause i don't know what you would do in that situation

and i looked up the word Putazo, probably not a good term to use in a "coming out thread"

anyways, goodnight dude

it sounds like you weren't being honest to yourself, was it worth the trouble then in the end?

you don't have to answer that if you don't want to, as i need to go to bed

nighty night!


>>845613 I was honest to myself; I wasn't honest to her.  In the end, yes, it was worth it.

Good night!


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Sigh... Star... Star....

The word Putazo has other meaning in Mexico and it means "a very strong hit"

The next time I see you I will use the chancla on you, WHY? for not asking me something about in spanish language.

¡Ahora vete a dormir cabrón!
Nada de buenas noches esta vez.


What did I tell you about not giving me boners?


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Accept it.
Love it.
Come out.


I'm not gay. I'm not pan either.


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No? What are you then?
You have been mentioning your ..... Yeah.. Around Toybox...


I'm straight. I know Toybox is trans, but her and I are friends, and she doesn't mind if I make lewd jokes.


I really wish people would stop making assumptions about me regarding this. I've explained all that before.


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Ooh, okay.

It's okay, you can come out as straight!


I admit it. I'm straight. Women are very sexy. Especially their hips and thighs.


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hear, hear


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I accept your straightness!

Hips and thighs are nice.


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Saving these for my folder.


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Glitter is a cutie. Sorry for imposing on your avatar, just seemed like a cute match for the thread.


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This guy's got it.


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Not really down with the whole LGBT thing but I thought you might get a laugh out of this.


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That some kind of car wash token?


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Yes. Let's go with that.


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Another one for my collection.


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Woah, no need to resort to violence, I'm sure the car wash'll accept the token just fine!

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