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 No.1122766

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I want to propose a new universal temperature scale.

Why? Because why not?

Here are the goals with my proposal:

1. Useful numbers are round numbers.
2. Be easy to comprehend what the numbers actually mean in terms of impact on you.

We only need two useful temperatures to make a scale. So I'm going to pick the two that I find the most useful: Room temperature (the air temperature that most people around the world, on average, find comfortable) and the freezing temperature of water.

Also, in order to make the numbers comprehensible, I'm going to make them small. You'll see what I mean.

I'm going to name my new units "Temps", use T as the symbol, and away we go!

HOW IT WORKS:

• 0ºT is the freezing point of water. (0ºC or ~32ºF)
• 2ºT is room temperature or "comfort temperature". (22ºC or ~72ºF)

In essence, take C and divide it by 11. For approximate F conversion, subtract 32 and divide by 20 (by 10 then by 2).

Suddenly, we already have an incredibly useful scale.

WHY THIS IS GREAT

If you want to know if it will feel warm or cool outside, the only question you have to ask is: "Is it greater than or less than ?"

Below 1ºT, it would obviously be cold enough to need some cold weather clothing.
Below 0ºT, ice and snow abound.
Near 3ºT and above is short sleeves, shorts, and perhaps a trip to the beach.

Everything is relative to reference points, making it intuitive to read. With 2º being room temperature, and 1º being "cold", a temperature like 1.5º immediately says, "It's a little chilly out."

Let's look at some other important temperatures.

Boiling point of water is 9ºT (give or take depending on pressure/altitude).

Body temperature is between 3.3-3.4ºT (36.3-37.4ºC). A fever would be 3.4ºT or higher. Given the variability of body temperature and how sensitive it is, I find this not just acceptable, but surprisingly perfect. To have a simple range of 0.1 for acceptable normal body temperatures feels right and is easy to remember! It also helps give a sense of just how sensitive our body is to temperature changes.

Absolute 0 is approximately -24.8ºT. There's nothing too special about this, however, I find that with the smaller numbers, the scale of just how cold absolute 0 really is becomes much easier to comprehend. Just think about it: 2 is average, 0 is freezing, -25 has to be nutso cold.

Fun side fact: The melting point of tungsten is a whopping 311ºT!

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There were a few other things I could have done with this. One idea was to make 0ºT room temperature so our human understanding of hot and cold would just be positive and negative, but it would have been more difficult to convert to, and it just felt right to keep 0º as "freezing".

All in all, I think this temperature scale accomplishes both of its goals in spades. Not only are the useful numbers nice and round, it's SUPER easy to comprehend what the numbers actually mean and how they will impact you.

What do you think?

 No.1122767

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Now you may be thinking, "This is just Celsius with extra steps!" and you'd be kinda right.

But there are two things that I think this has over Celsius:

 1. The small size of the numbers makes the comparisons of temperatures more intuitive and easy to understand.
 2. The numbers themselves are easier to correlate with personal experience.

So while it really is just a scaled Celsius, I still find it significantly easier to use than Celsius.

 No.1122770

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My definition of "Comfortable" would be just under 20ºC, preferably around 15ºC.

That's my comfort zone. Meanwhile there are people living in places around 80ºC who regard 60ºC as a cool day.

Just saying we already have two forms of official way to measure temperature which I find confusing to choose from already while your suggestion wouldn't be rather practical for global use.

What you're proposing is a doctor's equivalent of "On a scale from 1-10 how much does it hurt?"

 No.1122771

This kind of ignores that there's a pretty big difference between what certain corners of the world wil ldescribe as "hot" or "comfortable" based on their usual climate.

Like, Denmark will absolutely say it's "hot" well before you reach 33 degrees celsius - most people here start thinking it's pretty friggin' warm around the mid-twenties.

 No.1122772

>>1122766
Personally, I'm quite happy with the utility of Fahrenheit to depict temperatures which humans find comfortable.

This aside, there's massive differences between 72 and 74 in fahrenheit.
It makes celsius largely useless for me.
If I can't fine-tune my A/C, I'm an unhappy camper.
This seems like it'd be impossible to gauge on a typical A/C unit without a lot of fractions.

 No.1122774

>>1122772
I'm more used the celsius. I wish the whole would just pick one.

 No.1122780

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> What do you think?
I think you're probably wanting to reconsider the value of Pi as well

 No.1122781

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>>1122767
Honestly, I think quite the opposite is true.

A warm day in summer, a sunny day in fall "wear a shirt", a colder day in fall "add an extra layer" or winter weather where you want to wear gloves / a thick winter coat,...

The scale assumes tht people only care about comfortable / boiling hot / freezing cold.

But for everything else you're dipping in decimals and we don't understand decimals.

 No.1122783

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>>1122770
>>1122771
There's always going to be discrepancies between what each person finds comfortable, especially on a global scale. And most of us here live in pretty cold areas compared to the rest of the world, so we're used to cooler temperatures.

However, that doesn't mean that a useful number can't be picked. Even with the wide variety of what is considered comfortable outside temperature, comfortable inside temperatures tend to be pretty consistent around the world.

Average global room temperature is between 20º-24º Celsius or 68-75º Fahrenheit. It's a nice small range, so I picked the center of that.

>>1122770
15ºC is what you set your AC to?? Or is that just your preferred outside temperature?

>>1122772
That is one interesting aspect about this system. Decimals would get used more often. But I think that's a good thing. You'll still be able to fine tune your AC, however now it will be with a decent reference point instead of just an arbitrary range that has to be learned by experience.

>>1122780
lol

>>1122781
Dipping into the decimals would be normal. That's part of the point. Having the distances between these points be divided up would help with getting a sense of relative scale between reference points.

Left of the dot is the main reference point, and right of the dot is how far above that reference point you are.

Are decimals really that hard for people? I never really found them to be that much of an issue.

Fractions however...

 No.1122784

>>1122783
Outside temperature, though I prefer to have my room chilled. I don't have an indoor room thermometer and I can't just "know" the exact celsius of anywhere I am located. Where I live the current temperature in my town is 15ºC. I have the windows open and it's a nice balmy day and I don't need the fan on.

 No.1122785

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>>1122784
That sounds pleasant!

>I can't just "know" the exact celsius of anywhere I am located
That's part of the reason I find Celsius too granular for most people. It's just easier to think it terms of small numbers.

In Temps, for you it would be like "I prefer it when it's between 1 and 2. When outside is in the middle or closer to 1, it's nice to leave the windows open."

You can get granular if you want to with decimals, but for the most part, you can just be lazy and think in general relative numbers.

 No.1122787

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>>1122783
I myself, probably would be able to handle it, but the common folks?

I think it's obvious why weather predictions work with natural number scale and there's never any decimal involved in the weather report. I think it would intimidate people at home.

In that regard, fractions might even be more accepted than decimals...

As an interesting remark, can you explain what temperature really means?

 No.1122791

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>>1122787
>In that regard, fractions might even be more accepted than decimals...
In my experience tutoring, people get WAY more confused about fractions than they do about decimals.

Some people think 1/3 is bigger than 1/2. But basically everyone understands that 1.7 is bigger than 1.5.

>I think it would intimidate people at home.
Perhaps? Though I feel like people would understand it better if the numbers themselves made the distance from reference points obvious, instead of just being an arbitrary number in isolation.

When 2º is room temperature and 3º is "hot", seeing 2.5º makes more immediate intuitive sense compared to just seeing 27º on its own. At least for me.

>As an interesting remark, can you explain what temperature really means?
You mean in scientific terms? Like a measure the average kinetic energy of the molecules? Or do you mean something else?

 No.1122792

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okay but what if its hotter than 111.

 No.1122794

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>>1122792
4 is the biggest number there is. There are no other numbers. So it will never get hotter than that.

 No.1122795

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>>1122791
> makes more immediate intuitive sense compared to just seeing 27º on its own. At least for me.
I suppose it's about what you're used to.

> Like a measure the average kinetic energy of the molecules? Or do you mean something else?
I
I guess

 No.1122798

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>>1122795
>I guess
Were you asking for anything in particular? I'm not sure I understood the intent behind the question.

 No.1122799

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it should be a 5 step scale of "GOD DAMN IT'S COLD" / "it's a bit chilly innit?" /"It's alright"/ "It's a bit toasty outside aint it?" / "I'M LITERALLY ON THE SUN!!!"

and then we add a second category to contextualize the scale, and that would be location, which will give you an idea of how it compares to your scale!

like a British I'M LITERALLY ON THE SUN would be about the same as an Arizonan's "It's a bit chilly innit?"

Down in the Springs, it's been 90 degrees, which is my "It's a bit Toasty aint it?" but i imagine it would be sweden's "I'M LITERALLY ON THE SUN!!!"

it's fool proof!

 No.1122800

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>>1122799
Perfection! Why didn't I think of that?

We can add some humidity terms too! Like "There's ice in my bones!" and "Why am I wearing a blanket on the sun!?!"

 No.1122801

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>>1122800
ahh yes! i forgot about humidity!

Arizona would be "Like a burnt piece of toast" and Florida would be "I'm swimming through Hell!"

 No.1122802

>>1122801
Swimming like a Bat outta Hell

 No.1122811

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>>1122802
well it's florida, so i can understand wanting to getting out of there too :PP

 No.1122816

>>1122811
Wouldn't know, never been

 No.1122819

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>>1122811
I live here. It's incredibly humid all the time.

But I love it!

 No.1122820

>>1122819
Are you this "Florida Man" I keep hearing about?

 No.1122823

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>>1122816
>>1122819
>>1122820
keep your distance esh

a wild florida man can be dangerous... you never know what they are capable of!

 No.1122841

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>>1122823
Watch out!

 No.1122857

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>>1122841
OH GOD!!!

 No.1122913

>>1122794
Seems cool. But will we cook everything sous vide then?

 No.1122950

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>>1122913
Everything is better when slow cooked.

 No.1122951

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 No.1122952

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>>1122951
Yaknow..

People don't seem to have barometers around the house anymore nowadays.

 No.1122953

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>>1122952
Is that a challenge?!

I'll show you!

 No.1122954

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>>1122953
Do you have?

 No.1122955

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>>1122954
Behold!

I have mastered the elements!

 No.1122956

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>>1122955
That's amazing
you win the internet today

 No.1122957

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>>1122956
How else am I supposed to know if a gale is coming? You can't trust what they say on TV. They've been bought and paid for by Instacart and Morgan & Morgan. They'll say anything that they're told to say.

 No.1122960

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>>1122957
Now a lifegoal is to find a fancy one as well

with that parasol lady and that umbrella gentleman coming out.

 No.1122963

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>>1122951
At any rate, that made me think about this donkey plate my grandparents had at their home.

 No.1122981

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>>1122794
i wish.

 No.1122988

>>1122963
>If Tail Is Wet - RAIN
>If Tails Is Frozen - COLD
So it just uses common sense?

 No.1122990

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>>1122988
No
It's on old tool driven by solid state physics, actually.

 No.1123033

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>>1122990
If I stood outside and suddenly got wet, I would quickly presume it's raining.


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