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Wow, the difference between two holsters can be like night vs day. With one AIWB holster, appendix-carrying my Beretta M9-22 was nearly unbearably uncomfortable. With a better holster, I hardly even notice that it's there. Has anyone else here had a similar experience? Also, /k/ general thread.
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Ooh, that's an intersting gun!
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I found a listing for a Norinco SKS in good condition with all matching serial numbers.
I was planning to grab it, but then hail damaged my car. So I'm getting that sorted out. Hopefully I can do that soon, and maybe purchase this before someone else does and cuts it up.
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I'm still salty that my dad didn't sell me his Benelli.
He wanted $200 and I offered $500 but he didn't want me to own a gun.
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Oh shit, that sucks!>>1115738
All the Benelli semi-auto shotguns I saw at my local gun store were all over $1,000.
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That's what the insurance is for at least! >>1115738
Daaaamn, that sucks. >>1115755
It does. But I'm hoping the $1,499
price tag means it will still be there when I've got everything sorted. I want to get this baby before someone fucks with it.
I keep thinking about getting an anime girl pillow or such like that, but I keep wondering how family would react if they saw that at my place while visiting... hmmmmm...
On topic, would be cool to shoot a IMI Galil at some point. They're quite interesting.
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You know, I don't ever remember getting gifted this. But you know what? I'm glad I went cleaning through the old locker.
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It's even got its bayonet.
This is interesting:>
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I don't know what it is but I love seeing Mosins with their bayonet. >>1116311
Have you seen the video on the Burgess folding 12ga?
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They look good with it!
Also did a quick once over on it, so far so good. The bolt sounds nice and clicky. Not gummed up or anything. https://vocaroo.com/1fTuAZultKWL
This is also fascinating:>>>1116332
Am not familiar with that video!
Here's another informational video about a firearm from the Galil family:>
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I had a friend that bought one to turn it into a obrez.
He has had multiple surgeries on his wrist for some reason. >>1116336https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXvmGtLYwKA
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In this case I'll be keeping this one as-is. I don't wish to fuck with it too much. It's in a good state.
Apparently these Romanian ones had a very limited production run as well, so it would be quite nasty to cut up a piece of history like that.
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I have enough respect for you to know that you wouldn't obrez a good rifle.
You say that, but I know people that have done horrible things to heirlooms.
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Especially not a nice bolt action. I mean that doesn't even make sense why you would obrez a fucking bolt action?
Oh don't I know it. That's part of why I mentioned that SKS earlier in the thread. I want to obtain and baby it before someone else buys it and cuts it to pieces.
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I think it is a little of mosins having a history of being a very afforiable rifle and often seen as cheap by some, and a subculture in firearm circles that is really...really fucking stupid.
I think the worst I have seen is an old .38 my grandfather owned. He snubbed it himself and somehow fucked the internals up enough to where the cylinder would no longer spin.
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Well I'm sure those same circles would call me a Fudd for having some respect for history and wanting to preserve some of it.
Oof. That's pretty rough.
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Most likely but they are also the type that can't maintain their own gear and get off to some obseure caliber that is better than every other caliber.
It happens. He also had a single shot I wanted but when my uncle tossed him into an assisted living facility they sold all his guns.
It wasn't anything special mind you, I just have a soft spot for it being the first shotgun I ever used.
It and an old S&W 29 scared the shit out of some burglurs once.
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Ah yes, those folks. As if a .22 isn't perfectly suitable for most of their purposes.
A feeling of nostalgia for simpler times! Nothing wrong with that, a shame you didn't get your hands on it.
I remember you telling me that.
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I don't really understand why YouTube keeps giving me both a)educational clips about general firearms and b)advertisements about the need to ban semiautomatic assault rifles from political groups.
I mean, well, I guess that their regular algorithm is completely separate from what they've got running advertisements, but... still... huh...
Am not sure what else is on my bucket list for firearms that I'd like to try at some point just for knowledge's own sake, besides the Galil and the Uzi (I'm quite interested in everything to do with Israel to begin with). I'll think about it some more. Fun stuff.
What about you peeps? What do you want to fire at some point in the future, near or distant? Have a list?
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>>1116438>Am not sure what else is on my bucket list for firearms that I'd like to try at some point just for knowledge's own sake, besides the Galil and the Uzi (I'm quite interested in everything to do with Israel to begin with).
I suggest the IWI Tavor. It's an interesting bullpup design.
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I know it's been revealed to have some overheating issues when fired continuously, but I've always wanted a G36.
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Just watched that video!
Its an intriguing weapon... can't help but think of various movie heroes... maybe Ellen Ripley from the 'Aliens' series or somebody else fighting horrific extraterrestrials might use it, due to there being a 'break out the museum piece' moment? Just a thought! Not surprised that Theodore Roosevelt was impressed!
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True, but they are also the type of people to horde all the .22 and bring the price up because they are the worst type of meat sacks.
I have had my eye on a few Henrys just because of that.
Fun times. >>1116438
I am a simple girl and I want an old python. >>1116442
A very good option.
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It's especially ironic if they don't like the caliber but horde it anyway.
Find any that are on the table for soonish?
I like how sleek it looks. But a python is also a solid option. Hard to go wrong there.
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Maybe if we tick them into just buying 40S&W everything will get better.
Not soonish because Henrys are about a full paycheck new and hold value really well.
The real issue is that the longer I wait, the more dumb trends they are going to be stapled onto them.
Seeing a lever-action get kitted out in tactical shit honestly annoys me.
I mean to be fair the only other time the 29 saw action was when my grandmother proved she really shouldn't be around guns.
My greatuncle liked to play too many pranks and one night he took it too far and spooked her good and well....windows had to be replaced.
Have the clones gotten any better?
Well...I've heard stories about new pythons so I would prefer something made prior to the 1980s but that would mean waiting out Boomers.
Maybe I'll get a G17 and call it a day.
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Yep, honestly that's the sort of thing pushing me to get the SKS. It's at $1500, but it's in really good condition and I'd hate to have someone get it and then butcher it because of sunk cost fallacy or something.
Oof. Well, at least no one was hurt in that incident?
Nah, most of the G36s have that same problem. The problem is that it was one of the earlier attempts to switch a lot over to polymers, to my understanding.
Ah yes, the boomers. Holding onto the nice pieces.
I mean, a glock isn't anything fancy, but there's a reason they're so common. They're simple and reliable, so it's hardly a bad choice. Sometimes something's popular for good reason.
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Honestly in the current market that isn't that bad.
I really go get now wanting it to be butchered by some DIY gunandy.
No one was shot. I can't say no one wasn't hurt.
Holding them, letting them rust, or trying to sell them at a 4x markup.
Oh by no means am I shittalking Glock. I think they are the best option for 99.999% of people looking for a simple firearm.
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I'm honestly offended that someone would strip such elegance.>>1116438
I have yet to be anywhere near handguns that weren't semi as my local range is fairly strict and I haven't sought any further really.
Rifles with unconventional feeding systems to attract my attention though ala G11 or a P90 but i can't afford such. Maybe someday.
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The real issue, I think, is that unlike the contemporary American rifles, there's not as much respect for the history of the Communist Bloc weapons.
Well, not shot is good.
Oh for certain. I found that Mosin after going through some of my dad's old things.
Very much so. Simple and reliable is always a big plus. >>1116595
Many do, unfortunately. Makes me feel pressured to get my hands on certain pieces to ensure they're preserved.
I additionally want to link this video, in reference to what I posted a few days ago ( >>1116336
I mean that is an easy mark for someone that knows their shit.
There is a reason everyone wants an SKS.
Honestly, I think they would have rather been shot.
That said, I have seen people do some dumb mods to Glocks.
I additionally think that AK-74 rifles are pretty interesting:
Sharing this as well as a follow-up to >>1117102
for you peeps:>
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They do have a similar profile, but no, it's a Mosin.
Am digging this. These firearms have a reputation of being used by 'serious business' types in different action films and related television shows, I think. Visually striking weapons for sure.
>>1121868>You get into an argument / discussion and you decide to pull your gun on the other person. However, you don't shoot.>Are you still in a lot of trouble?
You're in a LOT of trouble. Like... a TON of trouble. Even the laxest states have strict laws against even showing
(brandishing) your firearm to someone else as a warning (or in a way that can be interpreted as threatening). Even if there weren't gun specific laws, there are still coercion laws.
Pointing at someone in a non-self-defense situation like what you described is straight up illegal no matter what state you're in. Many states would even label it "assault" with a fire arm.
Different states have different punishments for it, but regardless, you'd get in BIG trouble for it.
And this is all assuming you don't get reasonably shot for it by someone else thinking a shooting is about to happen.
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Brandishing a firearm is highly illegal in all states (except if you would be justified in firing). And one of the cardinal rules of gun safety is never to point the muzzle at something that you don't intend to shoot.
Although, you could brandish against a victim whom which local police would be unlikely to help in some areas for prejudice reasons, such as a transgender person, a Muslim Arab person, a recent immigrant who doesn't speak much or any English, or the like.
Of course, even in those circumstances, it would still be both unethical and illegal (as well as an extremely bad idea, practically, as stated above).
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Reason for the thought:
Someone working retail / the service sector made a remark that they have had people pulling guns on them for disputes and that people around would rather not risk being held at gunpoint for a disagreement.
And I came to think on how much this could be a cultural thing.
In Europe there have been people who are more or less argumentative, but you never hear of people just pulling out a gun (or even a knife) on someone because they didn't apply a discount that was "owed".
You appear to be under the misconception that American police care about protecting regular citizens, which is sometimes true but is eons away from being always true. I'd have a hard time even arguing that it's mostly true, to be honest.
How do you know that the victim being brandished upon doesn't 'deserve it' due to 'asking for it', in the eyes of the local police and perpetrator?
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>>1122001>Someone working retail / the service sector made a remark that they have had people pulling guns on them for disputes
Yikes! That certainly isn't normal in America.>>1122086>You appear to be under the misconception that American police care about protecting regular citizens
They care about enforcing the law. Brandishing is straight-up illegal.>>1122086>How do you know that the victim being brandished upon doesn't 'deserve it' due to 'asking for it',
It doesn't matter whether the victim 'deserves' it -- brandishing is still illegal and a major violation of safe gun handling. The police would respond even if there isn't even a specific victim at all.
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i am not much a gun person, though i have learned basic things, like how to shoot and firearms safety, due to being in the scouts!
i don't need a gun, and as i do not need it, also do not really want one.
I mean... you seriously don't seem to get it.
After all, both theft and murder are illegal as hell, but you've no reason to expect help in America in many areas if you're a marginalized person seeking police assistance in terms of those things. You know that. I know that.
Brandishing is an ever lesser crime then both of those thing.
P.S. Being a retail worker and having people threaten your safety and even your life is a normal thing in America. No idea where you're at denying that. Eh.
For citation's sake, in my own Chicago the rate of homicides solved by the police is about 40% if you're white and far, far less if your not:> https://www.npr.org/local/309/2019/10/09/768552458/chicago-s-dismal-murder-solve-rate-even-worse-when-victims-are-black
It's not lost on me that if I was randomly exploring childhood places and happened to get killed by some criminal that the statistical most likely outcome would be that nothing whatsoever happens as a result.
Hmm, we seem to have been talking about different things. I was talking about the case where the police are called upon to intervene in a situation in progress or where the police personally witness a crime.>>1122113>Being a retail worker and having people threaten your safety and even your life is a normal thing in America. No idea where you're at denying that.
Pittsburgh. Somebody threatening an employee here with a firearm would be highly unusual and reported news. Or maybe things are different in the lower-income parts?
A quick Google search tells me that Pittsburg is one of the most racially segregated cities in all of America, which I guess plays into this. I don't have the facts here for sure, but I would guess that it's probably segregated highly in other ways as well, such as ethnicity and income.
This is probably a privilege thing. A wealthy straight cisgender white person working at a retail place who's subject to some sort of crime in a neighborhood that's been actively designed to benefit them will probably be able to count on full and efficient police protection.
Ah, good eye.
Pretty sure that I typed "wealthy" by accident instead of "well-off".
You can be a retail worker and be a generally happy person paying the bills fine, but, of course, somebody isn't going to be at the six figures level just from the average service job, let alone be at the Bill Gates level.
I mean, I can certainly say when I worked retail, I never got threatened.
Disgruntled people insulting me? Sure.
But no threats.
I'll grant you though, Chicago has a lot of bad crime, so I don't mean to presume it didn't happen.
Just would say, Chicago is not quite indicative of the whole of the US.
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I've got a Tavor! Can confirm, they're really cool.
Honestly, I will perpetually say, bulpups are the future. Especially with the 7 making it so easy to swap left and right handed shooting.
I'm not really sure I consider shoulder-swapping on the fly super vital, but it wouldn't shock me if they figure a way to do it quick, considering the developments there.
Same bolt, easy more or less toolless change.
All in a 308 package, to boot.>>1121868
As others've said, that'd be brandishing. Though I'd also point out, it's something that might be overlooked as a result of lack of evidence.
Mostly I say this due to hearing stories of people who got hassled by some road-rager or other disgruntled sort, which more or less all that was done was the police took a report.
Unless you've got the ID of the guy, it's not really all that easy to catch. But, that's why they log things. Might get a call weeks or months down the line, 'cause they picked someone up for something similar or whatever.
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Ironically enough, they kept selling out of things I wanted whenever I was looking, so the net result is more time to save.
But leaving that aside, the utility of the T7 is really what got me.
See, I was wanting a PCC for more or less home defense.
More or less because I also wanted something I could use in the car if I ever had to, but home defense is obviously more realistic.
Anyway, the one I was going after sold out, and was already a thousand bucks anyhow.
The Tavor 7 was 2000, which while ultimately steep, was only about 800$ more.
And, in exchange, I get a 20 round semi auto full sized rifle round, covering my want for about three other guns. Arguably 4, as my AR was never a serious one, lacking rails due to the old handguard.
Basically, being a semi auto 308, it covers my needs for a hunting rifle, a compact gun capable of being used indoors, and a longer range 'battle rifle' of sorts innawoods gun.
It's not the best at any of this, but it's good enough at all of it. Jack of all trades sort of rifle.
And the rail real-estate means I can actually make it "serious" so to speak with flashlights, bipods, pretty much any optic I desire, and of course IR laser units for whenever I pull out my NVGs.
Oh, and an easy suppressor host, too, given the standard threads, locking bolt, and adjustable gas system.
Now, I will admit, the price made it hard to get much in the way of those accessories.
But still, managed to slap a sig red dot and magnifier, and a surplus KAC foregrip that's long enough for a monopod function, so for only about 2.5k, I've got 90% of what I want.
Gun flashlights are too expensive. IR lasers are insanely expensive.
Still, overall cost ended up cheaper than buying separate, and I don't regret the purchase.
Only thing that sucks is she's too heavy to be a hike gun.
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I'm not exactly a gun person but I think revolvers and rifles are neat. There's something just aesthetically pleasing about them.
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>>1122465>home defense>Basically, being a semi auto 308, it covers my needs for ... a compact gun capable of being used indoors, ...
Do you have a suppressor for that? I'd hate to have to fire an unsuppressed .308 indoors without hearing protection
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Yep! I snagged a Nomad LT.
Cost a fair penny, at 1000$. But, the tax stamp came free, so of the options I was looking at, it was ironically enough the cheapest.
I was already a little squimish about the weight of the Tavor, so that was part of the decision to go with titanium. Thing weighs almost nothing. It's amazing.
I only wish I could've got it with the black coating, but I figured it'd be fine, I can get a cover at any point.
Adds a fair bit of length, on the downside. Not nearly as compact, though still managable being closer to maybe a 10 inch AR. I've not yet quite decided how I feel about that.
You can still fairly easily round corners, but being able to shoulder while coming out a doorway sideways was kind of nice.
Truth be told, I was never that worried about hearing damage as a result of firing the thing in doors. Obviously unideal, but the Tavor isn't something I grab by the bedside anyway. So if I am getting it, I ought be able to grab the earplugs right next to the thing.
Until IWI gets their 20" barrel back in stock, though, I'll stick by this one I think.
When I get that, I might look at a Sandman K model.
Less sound suppression, but a much tighter package. And, considering I don't intend to throw around subsonics, really a suppressor's for the diffusion more than anything else anyway.
Then, this one'll get put on a 'hike gun'. Light as it is, and quite a heap of sound dampening, I think it'd be perfect for a 'scout rifle' so to speak.