I understand that my tone towards Noonim is not the best, and I can understand it being hard, and even scary, considering your history with staff, to speak about controversial subjects with me out of fear for how we might percieve your opinions. These are sensitive topics, and people are riled up.
The tone I take with Noonim is certainly not forgiving, I can accept that. I do try to be civil at the outset when I can, and maintaining that tone doesn't always work out so well for me. I find arguing with Noonim tedious and unpleasant, and I should try to do as little of it as possible, if I can't talk to him and also keep my tone in check. Fair.
But they're not kids and we're not parents, you can see that, right? Those aren't really the standards we should be judging the situation by. And if you're expecting us to treat every individual user of this site with the level of care that a parent would a child, you're misrepresenting the actual relationship, and you'll be sorely disappointed every time. There's a reason why we want kids to grow up, and not remain kids their entire lives. Because we need them to grow up in order to have functional social systems. If users are in need of "parenting", it is not our responsibility to provide it.
I mean you said you were going to report back if
you found flaws. I wasn't sure, but I assumed since you hadn't reported back... I'm sorry if that bothers you.
So, you'll have to correct me if I'm wrong, but what I'm hearing is, because Manley has special restrictions placed on him, and has been in trouble with the mod team before, it cannot be anyone elses fault if he is caught in a scuffle with someone else, and the matter is political, is that correct? Noonim is also a cronic offender, and his actions in this thread were really pushing the boundaries of the rules, in a lot of the modstaffs opinion crossing them, regardless of whether we believe that Manley was out of line, which, if you'll notice, we also do take that stance in this instance. It's not just Manley, and it's not just Noonim. It definitely appears to me, that we were seeing a nearly equal amount of troubling behavior coming from both of them.
Even if we take this notion of Manley being in the wrong and run with it, it does not negate how others act against him.
I also believe the situation is more nuanced than that.