>>755>I wasn't asking what people thought of the thesis of the video, but it's of course fine if you want to respond to that, since it's a part of the material brought in. I was more interested in what people thought about the portrayals themselves.
That's very fair. In my head those are very similar answers still, but to comment on the concept of sexual ideas used as jokes without any input from the video I would compare it to murdering a dog in a film to prove that someone is the bad guy. It's surprisingly common, it's actually the entire plot to John Wick, but it's really really low tier as far as writing goes. You've got a bad guy, how is he bad? Well he hates puppies so here's some shots of an adorable dog and here's him post-villain in pieces with the blood all over. Instantly the audience goes "I can't believe you murdered a puppy, this villain has to die." which is fine if your villain is a one dimensional robot for the protag to beat up on, which is all he's gonna be if you resort to dog murder.
Jokes about rape are pretty similar. I think I put them a step above just saying "poop" on the comedy scale, but overall it really just relays very little information, it has no originality, and it reeks of someone who's completely out of material.>What would it take for you to believe that it was a reciprocal relationship? What kind of evidence or testimony would you require?
Because it's a bit of a loose concept anyway I think what I'd actually want to set as the bar would be based on actions. Not just "there is a link" and trying to prove it for the sake of proving it. But "we should do this" and opening the floor for a discussion of risks and possibilities.
What we have so far is just a sort of vague "stop saying rape jokes", which as I've sort of implied isn't a bad idea anyway because they aren't very good jokes. And if that's the only call to action there is then I guess it already passes the bar. Please do stop with the rape jokes, they aren't actually very funny anyway, we suffer no loss.
If the call to action is stronger, if we start talking bans and boycotts, that's when I'm going to get more hesitant. I'd really need 100% certifiable evidence that if we banned rape joke then the rape would stop. Which some might argue it's too high a bar, but I think there are just less invasive ways to approach the problem that don't punish third parties. I think rape and sexual assault of men or
women is solvable without addressing jokes.