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Is 5.56mm adequate for humans?


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Eh. From what I understand, it's not a great performer, but it works well enough.
Keep in mind, you're mainly trying to suppress. And ultimately, a wounding shot is still enough to keep a target out of action.
Bullet-wise, it's light though. Would be better if we got something a tad larger. But, logistics is a pain in the ass, so, nobody really wants to change anything too drastically.

There's a reason we're using the same 50 on vehicles we've used since WWII.


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I largely agree.  And I think the tip of the bullet makes a difference too.  Based on what I've read, commercial hollow-points perform much better than military FMJ at speeds under 2500 feet/sec and on peripheral hits.


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For military application, there's probably some decent advantages to full metal jacket, especially as it pertains to cover. But, yeah, modern bullet technology is really something else.
Really refined the gap between calibers in a lot of ways, at least for self defense. For military, cover and penetration become more important, but, in more civil uses, you want to limit penetration. Thanks to bullet development, most anything is actually effective, though you're not necessarily going to have the same direct energy. But, expansions can often enough be the same.And like I said, you want penetration down enough.

Here's one of my favorite sites on this particular subject. It's really quite interesting stuff. They don't seem to track the energy, though. Bit of a shame, but it might not matter that much


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Are we talking penis size?
Because, I hate to break it to you
That is a bit tiny.


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Ah, yes, penis joke, haven't heard that a million times before


it's the most widely used size for our active forces. Favored? perhaps not, but to be the standard for training I'm certain it's at least "adequate"


well he is a Clever Bee



I'm pretty thoroughly confident nobody actually listens to such a provision. Mostly because it's over a hundred years old, at this point.

It might be partly followed just out of convenience, since like I said penetration is probably more important for military application compared to stopping power.
Such battles are mainly about suppression and maneuvering, as I understand it.


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The US actually isn't a signatory to that provision of the Hague Convention.  

But the US and other countries do generally take it seriously.  When the US issued hollow-points to Air Force personnel for the purpose of taking small game, the ammo was marked "not be used against enemy soldiers" or something like that.

I'm pretty sure Tender Crocodile is right about penetration.  The US started using 5.56mm bullets with steel cores (for some uses) specifically to get better penetration.


It literally is though.


Don't get your education from Wikipedia.


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That's a different part of the Hague Convention that the US did sign.

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