>>4942>>4942>Ask who? Atheists? That's a lot of people to ask!
Wouldn't that imply that your generalizations are not justified? >>4942>That only makes sense if you see murdering a person as traumatic. Not everyone does or would
Again more reason the generalization is not rationally justified.
It's not a matter of human nature, it's a matter of individual differences. >Atheists don't belive there is punishment for murder outside of government laws.
That's not really relevant when things like empathy, sympathy, compassion and a desire to preserve that which one has a love for are also motivations for moral behavior, along with other possible motivations.
Either way that logically contradicts any logical justification for these naive generalizations.>If you can conceal a murder from law-enforcement, you never face any penalty for that crime. Whereas religious people believe that you will be punished for murder even if you live your entire life without getting caught.
So un developmental psychology, there is a concept of moral development, piaget's moral ladder. What you are describing is essentially just the bottom wrung of that ladder, moral behavior as a means to avoid punishment and receive reward.
This is a naive understanding of human moral impulses. Most people grow into either in the second or third wrung of this ladder, conventional or post-conventional morality that is "moral behavior as a respect for fairness and social exchange" in the case of conventional morality or "moral behavior as an adherence to a formal set of principles". >What? I don't think this what "social media" is doing. It doesn't target people who admit their mistakes and promise to improve. It exposes people who NEVER admit their mistakes and never strive to improve. No one points to an apology as evidence of a person's bad nature. Quite the opposite.
It's a matter of how many people react to the being in the spotlight to be self conscious of how others see you, and understanding how people in one's social circles would most likely judge someone by their actions. Some people fear looking weak in front of others, or find the humiliation of being very publicly mistaken. Hence why it trigger the reflexive doubling down, which is just a natural defense of ones self-esteem that few people lack but plenty can discipline themselves out of. that's just how ego and an insecure self-esteem works. This isn't a matter of something intrinsic to social media it's just a fact of human social cognition, instincts and drives that most (but not all) people have. Social Media and the increasing pressure to participate in it as a neccessary part of being informed and in touch with society as a whole around us leave many of us in a heightened state of self-consciousness within our own homes and otherwise private spaces. >>4942>If that were true, people would not hurt other people all the time. This is clearly not the case.
People hurt each other unwittingly all the time and anyone can be primed to supress their empathy, if we couldn't, then we couldn't be convinced to go to war and kill others, but in order for us to do that we must be convinced that who we are killing is not
The other most common motivation for people to hurt other people is fear
. Fear is the human condition and it distorts our ability to see others we fear as human ourselves. In other words, people are perfectly capable of empathizing with others and in fact do so by default, unless
they feel threatened, then they're naturally biased to believe whatever feels
safest to assume is true. Xenophobia is the single greatest cause of violence, it fuels wars and genocides and pogroms and mass violence. It's not motivated by a lack
of empathy, but a fear fueled
by empathy that gives us more people to fear losing to what we find vaguely threatening. We hurt some to protect others, because of empathy
Empathy is a double edged sword. >>4942>But if someone apologizes and then repeats the behavior, their apology was not genuine.
That's not always true either. People can change their minds after the fact. That doesn't mean that there was never a time in which their apologies weren't sincere.
But apologizing is humiliating and sometimes people fail to have a tolerance for that humility and the act of simply apologizing is too painful for them and their egos.
Of course this is not true of everyone cause this is just a variable personality trait, some people are just more humble than others and more easily accept their mistakes. Others need to discipline themselves. >>4942>This means the fault is on them for lying, not on the people who trusted them and forgave them.
I mean, it's perfectly probable and very common that some people are just hypocrites.
If anything can be said to be true about human nature is that people are jumbled messes of conflicting impulses rooted un the fact that different parts of our brains are older than other parts in terms of evolution, and find themselves in conflict with other parts. Typically people find themselves conflicted between desires motivated by survival needs and desires motivated by social needs given that we are social creatures. How we deal with that conflict is a matter of individual differences in personality, emotional development, and worldview. >So one needs to be cautious of liars, not of forgiving.
More importantly one needs to be cautious of baseless assumptions about possible motivations for a lie. Not all of them are for the purpose of manipulation or hurting another person. Parents lie to their kids about things that might be too complicated for them to undeserved at a young age to assuage fear and anxiety for instance. People lie to protect others feelings.
When I would most often lie, it was to my dad when I was in school because of all his neuroses around eating and food. Like on tgose days when I was in middle school and my mother would end up making the same thing for dinner I had at the lunch cafeteria, my dad had a lot of neuroses about me eating the same meal twice in one day, always making an ordeal of things if my mother picked the wrong dinner, and sometimes this would lead to fights with my mother, so I would lie to my dad so he wouldn't pick a fight with my mother. Not all lying is motivated by malice.