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 No.4811

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So apparently the shortage of hand sanitizer [1], test kits [2], and N95 masks [3] is a result of stupid regulations.  Distilleries could easily pivot to making hand sanitizer but for heavy-handed regulations.  NIOSH said that they'll take 45-90 days to inspect new N95 factories before they're allowed to sell N95 masks, despite the severe shortage facing our nation.  (It is relatively quick and easy for a doctor to test an N95 mask for functionality.  So concern about bad batches shouldn't hold up production, because they can detected and rejected by the purchaser and the user.)

Obviously some amount of regulation is good for addressing bad actors in the private sector.  But at this point, I think we'd be better off temporarily repealing all regulations that impede production of necessary goods to fight COVID-19.

[1] https://reason.com/2020/04/02/the-fda-is-making-it-much-much-harder-for-distilleries-to-produce-hand-sanitizer/

[2] https://reason.com/2020/03/19/coronavirus-testing-fda-cdc-covid-19/

[3] https://medium.com/@curtis.yarvin/plan-a-for-the-coronavirus-7db3997490c1

 No.4812

I think blaming the FDA for enforcing basic quality control is an insane misreading of the situation.

 No.4813

>>4812
If the WHO test kits were good enough for Europe, why weren't they good enough for the US?  And the FDA failed miserably at ensuring quality control anyway, because the initial CDC test kits were defective.  The fact of the matter is that the FDA refused to approve test kits that actually worked but did approve defective test kits.

 No.4817

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>>4811
[1]

'And that guidance requires a denaturant—an additive meant to make the alcohol unpalatable if, say, a child tried to drink it."

Kinda wondered about that, because it also renders it poisonous, and if we are protecting kids from harm that seems less than ideal.

[2]

Some things are not really about science, they are about authorities.  Seems like some things in medicine are like that, I don't know if all of medicine is like that.  Maybe because I'm not a doctor I'm not allowed to know.  Some of the test seems pretty simple, but I'm not quite sure how they create the primers, that may be hard, it has to be part of the virus DNA.  Or maybe RNA, I don't remember.

[3] I may have to come back to that, it's a lot of words.

>repealing all regulations that impede production of necessary goods to fight COVID-19

I always want to be respectful, but if the regulation is holing back something necessary and not preventing a greater harm, if I'm allowed to say it, I'd say that's a bad regulation.

 No.4818

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>>4817
>Kinda wondered about that, because it also renders it poisonous, and if we are protecting kids from harm that seems less than ideal.
Some denaturants are unpalatable but not poisonous.  E.g., denatonium (Bitrex).

>>4817
>it has to be part of the virus DNA.  Or maybe RNA, I don't remember.
Coronavirus is an RNA-only virus.

 No.4819

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>>4818
>denatonium
I suppose the worry is still that dedicated alcoholics would avoid tax.  Or maybe it's harder to make.  Well, really I don't know.  You seem to know more about this than me, so why don't they use that?

>Coronavirus is an RNA-only virus.
Yes, I think that's correct.  My confusion is whether the primer would be RNA or DNA.

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>>4819
>so why don't they use that?
The issue is that the distilleries can't add it to their industrial equipment, because cleaning it out would be very difficult, and it would make their beverages taste disgusting.  

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>>4820
The denatonium can be mixed at a final stage in the process, perhaps even off site.  Adapting the brewing process to produce methanol, I thought, was the main concern.  Perhaps I am confused somewhere.


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