>>2302>Hello, Attractive Leopard.
Hello, Gorgeous Porpoise!>One of the motivations for this thread was my reading of Sam Harris’ “The Moral Landscape.” That’s basically his argument, although he prefers the term ‘welbeing’ to happiness. I think it means similar.
Oh neat! I've never heard of it, but it sounds interesting. I might just pick that one up! Yea, well being and happiness are probably interchangeable in this particular context. Works well enough for the argument i was making, anyway.>Like people making themselves a slave to profit? Someone who has pulled themselves up has had to put their whole self into earning money, and it becomes a habit.
Yea, exactly! Like, i highly doubt any of these billionaires want to work 15 hour work days sitting in board meetings all day, and yet that's exactly what they do! Why not retire in luxury? Why not spend all the money to go surfing in the bahamas? Or have an art collection? Or donate to a cause you care about? To me, it seems they've forgotten the endgame, that is, spending money to make yourself happy, to increase your wellbeing, and have gotten stuck in a (make money to make money to make money....) loop. >I think affluenze is a term you have for...greed.
When i say affluence, i was actually referencing the defense that's been cited in the brock turner, and has been used as a legal defense before. That's why i used that particular terminology. https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/what-is-the-affluenza-defense-31843
You could probably tell already, but i'm not a fan, but i'll leave it at that. That's the idea anyway. Yea, it's basically greed, but i guess, greed in the context of it actually affecting your brain and legitimately making you mentally unstable. I don't think all greed necessarily fits into that category, but you have the right idea, anyway. >In some kind of theory making money involves providing a needed good or service to another, so in a – possibly economy, at least – greed = altruism. Where people separate these ideas, the idea is you can get rich by exploiting others.
Yea, i certainly think you can get rich either by exploiting others, or simply get rich by virtue of already being rich.>You see greed as a pretty major problem, I think.
Yes, very much so. To me, greedy people don't seem happy or fulfilled even with absurd amounts of wealth. So it makes me wonder what the point of being that wealthy even is. That wealth could certainly make many, many people much, much happier, so for it all to be amassed by people who don't even seem to appreciate it is very tragic to me. I think these people would be a lot happier if they retired and found a passion that makes them happy and doesn't step on other peoples' toes too much rather than spending their lives in an endless, joyless loop of money makes money makes money.