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 No.1241

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There is speculation that Jeffrey Epstein acquired his wealth via a blackmail scheme instead of as a legit hedge-fund manager.  New York Magazine reports ( http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/hedge-funders-have-some-thoughts-on-what-epstein-was-doing.html ):
"the hedge-fund managers we spoke to leaned toward the theory that Epstein was running a blackmail scheme under the cover of a hedge fund."
The article points to https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html for details about how such a blackmail scheme may have worked.

Paul Krugman comments ( https://www.twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1160191016726609920 ):
>If we were living in a paranoid fantasy universe, I would be very suspicious about the Epstein suicide, even about whether it was really suicide. And you know what? The Epstein case itself shows that we *are* kind of living in a paranoid fantasy universe

What do you all think?  Was he just a sex offender, or also the mastermind of a blackmail operation?  Did some of his blackmail victims have a role in his hanging?

 No.1244

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I definitely find his suicide very suspicious.  I don't know exactly what conslusions to draw from it, and that's probably the point of the murder if that's what it was.  But it all around feels like something that had more reasons not to happen, and yet here we are talking about it, confused.

 No.1246

Despite evidence going in multiple directions, I think that Occam's razor applies. The simplest explanation is the best on. Like Madoff, we was running a Ponzi scheme. It's a comparatively easy and logical thing to do: just don't get caught.

As far as his death goes, well, things seem pretty unclear at the moment. A lot of conspiracy theories are floating around. I think, honestly, the best position is to wait and see what the independent FBI investigation into the death reveals.

Hopefully, the man's death doesn't put a damper on the looks put into skeevy activities by Epstein associates Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, and the rest.

 No.1317

Epstein has very, very blatantly been assassinated by the Clintons.

Just look at how many people got "suicided" because they had dirt on the Clintons. They've never been particularly subtle about it either, honestly they would've never gotten away with all of it if it weren't for their wealth and influence, but in this case it's just so blatant that even the passive and uncaring centrists begin to raise eyebrows.

 No.1318

I think if he was blackmailing people instead of managing large amounts of money with other hedge fund managers who were aware of and tolerant of his behavior then those same still living hedge fund managers who previously would have profited considerably off of him now would have been operating mostly independently of him and would be far less liable to any civil litigation by Epstein's victims. They'd be victims too in the grand scheme of things, and that's what really matters in a legally binding way.

For those in the back of the room, I'm not suggesting that hedge fund managers are the true victims here but that this narrative sounds like a ploy by Epstein's colleagues to protect their profits.

 No.1320

>>1317
Do you have any evidence to support this? Epstein had dirt on a lot of people, including Republicans currently serving in high positions. If we are to believe that Epstein's death wasn't a suicide, it makes more sense that the people currently in power would have the means and motivation to kill him, rather than two retired politicians with no pull in the current White House.

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>>1317
>Epstein has very, very blatantly been assassinated by the Clintons.
Eh, I disagree.  If I were in Epstein's shoes, I'd want to commit suicide too.  The Clintons didn't need to assassinate him; they just needed to bribe the guards to look the other way while Epstein took care of it himself.  And the Clintons weren't the only people whom Epstein had dirt on.  Also, the BOP MCC where Epstein died is a federal facility, so ultimately Trump was responsible for the prisoner's security and the negligence of the prison staff.

 No.1340

>>1320

>with no pull in the current White House.
The senate is Democratic, and the Clintons have their filthy hooks sunk in almost every branch of government and media. Why do you think the leftist media has been on a constant smear campaign of Trump for years despite most claims being either disproven or downright fabricated? Why do you think the FBI wasted so much manhour and spent so many millions trying to find proof of collusion on Trump, yet turn a blind eye to Democrats doing the same thing right now by campaigning in other countries and encouraging illegals to vote? Why do you think the Clintons were not charged after the Clinton Foundation stole millions from the Haiti Relief Fund?
Besides, let's be honest here, Chelsea Clinton is being groomed into becoming a replacement for Hillary. The political terror of the Clintons is far from over. Mark my words, she'll be running for president when Trump's second term expires, and the left will spare no expense at pushing her to the forefront.

>>1323

His cell was too low to hang himself properly, so he only could've done so by using his bodyweight and leaning forward. It is literally impossible to break your neck in multiple places by hanging yourself like that, and yet that is exactly what they found during his autopsy.

And once again, let me remind you that the senate is Democratic. They can do all kinds of dirty stuff behind Trump's back. And since they eat out of the Clintons' pockets...

 No.1341

>>1340
>The senate is Democratic
What do you mean by this, given that the Republicans still have a majority in the Senate?

 No.1342

>>1340
>His cell was too low to hang himself properly, so he only could've done so by using his bodyweight and leaning forward. It is literally impossible to break your neck in multiple places by hanging yourself like that, and yet that is exactly what they found during his autopsy.
Do you any sources for that claim?  According to https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-only-thing-jeffrey-epsteins-broken-hyoid-bone-proves :
>But at 66, the U-shaped bone between his chin and his Adam’s apple likely would have become so brittle with age that it also could have been broken by hanging.
>That would include a suicide effort involving no more force than could be generated kneeling down with a noose around your neck until you become unconscious.
I don't particularly trust TheDailyBeast, but still I would like to see some evidence to back up your claims.

 No.1343

>>1241
I don't tend to keep up with this sort of thing. I just know it's pretty suspicious, and awfully convenient.
But, that's just more of the same. This stuff happens pretty often.

 No.1345

>>1317
>>1340
This is pretty fucking backwards. The three branches of government are majority conservative and Republican leaning. The only exception is that the Democrats have the House, which is kind of useless at the moment since the Senate kills everything they do. The conservative Republicans also have the fundamental U.S. power structure on their side from the military-industrial complex to the prison-industrial complex to the energy industry and so on.

What are the Clintons compared to this? Peanuts. Come on.

 No.1349

>>1340
>Why do you think the leftist media has been on a constant smear campaign of Trump for years despite most claims being either disproven or downright fabricated?

Trump has done plenty of legitimately critisizable things. I'm not sure where you are getting that it is fabricated.


>Why do you think the FBI wasted so much manhour and spent so many millions trying to find proof of collusion on Trump

Because there was evidence towards collusion. There still is. Trump was not exonerated for that, despite what he constantly claims.


>Yet turn a blind eye to Democrats doing the same thing right now by campaigning in other countries and encouraging illegals to vote?

Do you have any evidence that this is true? Trying to improve relations with other countries isn't the same as colluding with a foreign power. Even if a Democrat went to another country and said "Vote for me!" to the people living there... that's not the same thing as collusion. And it's certainly not "collusion" or "encouraging 'illegals' to vote" for a Democrat to reach out to Latin-American communities. You're really going to need to back this claim up with some hard evidence.

> Chelsea Clinton is being groomed into becoming a replacement for Hillary.

Completely baseless claim. If Chelsea wants to get into politics because both her parents were, that's her own choice as an adult and not because she was "groomed" to continue "a line of terror". You speak of the Clintons and Democrats like they are vampires. Almost everything you claim has no basis in anything that can be proven with facts.


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