No.991890[Last 50 Posts]
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...do you ever close your eyes, and picture a better place?
what does that place look like to you? i wonder if our places look similar.
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The great room of a warm cabin on a cold night with a large hearth, a roaring fire, high vaulted ceilings, comfy couches, loft spaces, filled with the sounds of clinking glasses, laughter, and murmur of the conversations of friends.
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A small little cabin in the woods, a garden, and my beloved.
A land of eternal sunshine, filled with everything I could ever want, and there’s a girl there that....
[censored for Moony’s sake]
....but she is a pure angelic avatar of compassion and love, and could never leave her side.
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i like how your paradise has friends and laughter and murmur. i love the idea of a cozy hearth, warm fire, and high ceilings. i am picturing like, it is all stone too, like Skyrim or something>>991894
.....awwwwww... i love this idea. a little cabin in the woods, a garden
are there murmurs and clinking glasses too?>>991896
your paradise is a land of eternal sunshine, but it sounds like it is mostly centered around a person, and not so much the place, rainbow!
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a place where everyone had the power to transform into anything they wanted to, but nobody had any ill will to do anything other than just pure self expression
and with that, allow for the greatest exploration into what everything and anything is like, artistically, scientifically, spiritually, and with strong beautiful bonds between people
where we can choose to be surrounded by as many people in any setting that we want, 10000 dance rave, or a single quiet room overlooking a mountain to read and meditate
the joys of love and life given freely to all <3
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Usually when I close my eyes I picture rather horrible places, so I open them and remain thankful that I'm where I am.
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all of ireland, ella enchanted?
...i have to say, that picture does look a little bit like heaven. like the shire, it looks like!>>991900
transform into anything they wanted to... like ditto?
i wonder what that would be like
a land of infinite choice sounds interesting!>>991901
...oh mondo, really? it is hard to picture a better place, dear friend?
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>>991902>all of ireland?
No. Just the picture, but maybe forty acres.
And you Moony?
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>>991902>hugs and kajis <3
well think about it! everyone talks about heaven in the sense that they as they are now goes to this perfect place, but what that lacks is acknowledging that they can make themselves into anything they want in that midst
the potential to be and do anything and everything would be fantastic! i could be a girl, a guy, or a giant unfathomable elder god that is beyond human comprehension!
and what we want and what we search for often change so much, so a land where all that can happen would be so incredibly cool <3
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It's never been a strong point. I've always felt like I'm already where I want to be, and the worst thing that could happen is being somewhere else.
Because the one thing I’ve been missing in my life is such a person.
We’d be surrounded by a peaceful meadow or an endless void of clouds and sky.
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I'd like an apartment in town. I'd like to wake up, have my coffee and a shower, and go to work. Work hard for eight hours, then go back home and have a nice dinner, some quiet time, and go to bed in a bed.
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...i think the picture sounds wonderful, and the 40 acres, too.
it is a wonderful dream, ella enchanted <3>>991905
...i think that does sound fun! i'm not sure i'd want to change though or do anything like that>>991910
that sounds so empty though, rainbow! >>991908
...even if somewhere else is better?>>991911
a nice, normal life, for wheatles?>>991906>>991904
me... i don't know. i think sometimes, i know. but i am struggling right now.
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not even to become a pony? or a gem? or some other third thing?
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I dunno. It seems pretty ideal to me. That's the dream, isn't it?
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i am scared of changing... for me, i can barely even be myself sometimes. i am afraid to lose myself>>991914
there are some i know who would do anything to be free of just such a life. and they too, know hardship. just different hardship, is all.>>991912>>991906>>991904
such a pretty house... such a pretty garden...
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I'm too worried about somewhere else not being better to take the chance.
I know..... all I can think of is a girl so perfect in bed that you’d never want to leave it.
And I assume your heaven is living with or as Fluttershy in her cottage?
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I've been free of it before.
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...maybe a little cottage, far from others, in the hillside where the forest meets the meadow. a little river, a little garden.
that's where i put myself when i need to go to a happy place. but i wonder if that is what paradise is really like, or if that is as far as my mind can imagine a happy place to be.
...a little shadow of somebody else's vision...
...it still makes me feel better! That is what counts, i guess
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i certainly understand the fear, but for me, i found the only way to honestly understand myself is to open myself to change. and then what comes from it is a more honest version of myself than what went in :))
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im gay so no. heavens inherently a religious construct so... no chance
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Well when you think of something.
My idea of heaven isn't really a setting so much as the opportunity to do the things I want to do. I'm happiest when I do valuable work.
But, since that's probably not the answer you had in mind, my ideal living situation would be a small living space that is easy to maintain and, a workshop(?) for whatever personal projects I come up with. The whole thing would be as sustainable and as automated as possible.
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I think heaven for me might be less of a place and more of a condition. Just the ability to move around without so much pain and effort, like someone else was moving my body for me.
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But if you could choose better, would you?>>991917
...well, having a cuddly pony friend is nice. when i close my eyes though and picture heaven, i am always alone. Alone, maybe with some animals i can cherish and take care of.
...do ponies count, in such a dream? i am so tired. i think i would love to be friends with flutters in Equestria, but i am not sure if i can picture heaven in that way>>991918
i suppose everypony is different. heaven has a special meaning for us all>>991920
i can understand that. For me, the person i wish to be is something i am always chasing. >>991921
...well, let us change the terms. What does a dream world to you look like, dear friend?>>991922
...i think it is nice, i hope>>991923
A workshop for tinkering! That is an interesting heaven!>>991924
...aw Mondo, i like that answer
Aye. I like that.>>991925
I wouldn't be satisfied with it. It's just something I like to think about right now.
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well if you aren't the person you wish to be yet, doesn't that inherently require change in order to become?
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just chillin i guess, playin songs and singin with friends. no more tears. bangin tunes
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Honestly, if I had things my way I'd be too busy to use it. It would be good to have space for a collection of motorcycles though. Those I would use if only to commute on a different one every day.>>991926
You can have the heaven next door I suppose. Your idea of heaven is basically the perfect neighbour.
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Oh and I forgot. A well stocked and large bathroom.
As it it all wasn't already enough.
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Not very populated. I love the aesthetic of a forgotten civilization, but like, hyper advanced. Picture a hyper-advanced civilization that got bored of the planet and left, or died off. Abandoned libraries, ancient tech and art, all sorts of things to learn and discover, but no obligation to do anything. In-tact apartments and lush overgrown forests keep you fed, watered, warm, and safe. If you interact with people, it's because you want to, and there would be so few people that doing so would be special and meaningful. Immortality would go well with it, too. Just an eternity of learning and exploring and adventuring!
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Kinda like this>
Only at like, dusk with a fire going and friends and family.
Think this ambiancehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b4nVxkJgbTs&t=158
And also dogs, dogs are there.
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There is a dog in that picture!
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Honestly I'd take a bed right now...
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i'm not a fan of deluding myself with promises of a better world just because i hate the one i was already given
this shithole is all i have, and when electricity ceases to flow through me, i will simply cease as well, like any other machine
>>991972>i will simply cease as well, like any other machine
Even though, machines are we (human beings) are ruled by the same laws of Physics, i personally find that comparison not to be completely accurate.
Machines can be destroyed, turned off and be rebuilt with enough useful work input, we cant go through that.
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A box floating down the river.
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so we're just really, really shitty
ones that function so fucking poorly they can't be upgraded, rebuilt or powered down properly without ceasing operations forever
we're just the world's absolute worst computers
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... said the thing that invented computers.
The thing that decided computers were even necessary.
The thing whose anthropic frame of reality divined the very principles needed to make other computers.
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i mean we are self perpetuating machines that has upgraded and become adaptable and highly personalized since the first model in the primordial ooze that first spawned life. the longevity of our being as well as our hyper advanced AI and auxillary functions are really quite impressive
perhaps that shows that the comparison of life to robots is a poor one tho, because then it tends to ignore the importance of the essence of humanity. for as meat robots, we don't need conciousness, just the illusion of conciousness. yet we do have conciousness, and to ignore that is a greater fallacy than to claim the earth is flat or that new york style pizza is better than chicago style
Rest when you can.>>991979
Humans are pretty decent in my opinion. Pretty much every robot of compatible configuration sucks and that's even with a lot of cheating.
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y'all fuckers can argue humans aren't shitty machines if you want, i kinda lost interest, it's semantics and romantics shit and i don't care that much
point is i personally still don't got a damn reason to believe that anything's fucking waiting for me when i die
if we're talking about a non-afterlife concept of heaven, then just this world but without all the murder and death in it would suffice as a perfectly fine heaven
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it's okay to change your mind, nobody will hold that against you. it feels as though you got a little chuffed by our responses
and i would like no murder and death either ^^
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Just being bored at work. The usual.
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where i can finally meet old lost loved ones.
at the same time, can't help but also feeling no regret,no remorse, feeling at home.
If being welcome to there will say
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Not sure how to answer this after listening to a podcasts called "The Happiness Lab" hosted by a Professor of Psychology at Yale all about the science of happiness.
In one episode she talks about a psychological phenomenon recently coined the "Impact bias" which is the tendency for people to overestimate how much impact, and length of duration of that impact, a hypothetical future event will have on ones happiness. Frequently overestimating how happy an experience will be and overestimating how long it will last, and conversely, overestimating how painful certain potential negative experiences.
So basically, human beings are poor predictors of their own future happiness or lack thereof, because we often misjudge how future events will effect us, because of all the shortcomings in our brains ability to imagine potential futures.
So it's like, I'm almost too aware of impact bias now to have any confidence that whatever answer I could give would be an actual heaven for me.
But still this thread is kind of like watching the phenomena potentially in action.
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i mostly got chuffed that people latched onto the one throwaway line about machines and not the actual substance of my post
whatever a chuff is
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Mh, maybe I am victim to some of impact bias.. but a certain hotel room surrounded by certain people would be my ideal heaven
It was a situation I'd already been in for a few days, when I went to Bronycon in Baltimore
In that city, in that hotel room, everything wasn't perfect, but it was the closest I've come to lasting happiness
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Mh, so? No one can die, what do we need those resources for?
Is having personal space more important than being alive? I don't think so
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I think the solution may be to have no more children, ever, though that plan may not be popular
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...Despite having those I care deeply about, I think heaven would be a solitary thing for me. Heaven is peace in isolation without fetters.
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If I were to close my eyes and picture a better place it certainly wouldn’t be heaven. Disregarding the fact that I would be going to hell, the idea of living in eternal paradise sounds fucking horrific to me.
I mean imagine actually living forever. You could live for a trillion years and you wouldn’t come any closer to death. You’d likely go completely insane within the first thousand, and I imagine that after that your brain would start to turn to mush as a sort of self defence mechanism. Even if you somehow protected against that living forever would get old really quick in comparison to your eternal life.
Living for 80-90 years and then dying into nothingness seems far more peaceful to me.>>991975>Machines can be destroyed, turned off and be rebuilt with enough useful work input, we cant go through that.
What are we if not just clumps of brain cell and chemical reactions? I don’t see why someone couldn’t hypothetically make an exact copy of you from the ground up. We just don’t fully understand how the machine/brain works yet, but if we did I think creating people would become as easy as making a computer, with time.
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But you have not answered the question.>>991890
Very foresty, Moons. Full of soft quiet spaces and an occasional mule who loses her tail sometimes.
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Aren’t you the guy that asked me that question over on /oat/? Who are you?
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I guess my idea of heaven, when I close my eyes.. I want to be a superhero. In a big city, fighting crime and making the world a better place. The kind of setting in really cutesy kid-friendly Saturday Morning cartoons. A happy place with happy people that's occasionally besieged by harmless colorful goofy villains or generic, hopelessly incompetent bank robbers
And I want to stop those villains and save people in a big flashy way, and be somepony people look up to. Somepony people would unironically call a hero without needing to be prompted by anything besides my own actions
That's what I think would be best. But a more realistic heaven would be living with people that understand me, and that seems much more obtainable..
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i just wanna live in Equestria
Cutie marks bloom in Equestria...
Pegasi zoom in Equestria...
Friendship it boom in Equestria
Walk on four hooves in Equestria...
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Hell doesn't exist.
Unless you count personal imaginations and altered definitions.
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I tend to avoid thinking about it, to be quite honest.
In a way, heaven's something that scares me a bit more than hell.
After all, hell's at least obviously negative. Heaven's supposed to be positive. But, how it gets there is the problem. Does it simply force you to feel good? Does it limit what you can do? How exactly does it work? What are the standards for "good", and how are they enforced in heaven?
Completely ideal scenario for me would just be having the ability to go through different 'worlds' so to speak and adventure in them. Give me a magical Skyrim box, so to speak, where I can do whatever in a fantasy world.
Let me choose my form, make my own stories, meet interesting characters, all that jazz. Fleshed out worlds I can even create things in. Build my own things, I can bring back as memorabilia into the 'hub' so to speak.
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Yes it does, i used to be a medical claims adjuster, that was suffering, it induced lovecraft tier madness.
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i was taught growing up that he'll is a sort of infinite separation from God, and that Heaven is being with God, in His presence for eternity.
...i imagine, what that is supposed to be like is completely outside of our ability to understand. There are metaphors for each, burning pit of sulfur, eternity of bliss... but metaphor can only go so far.
i think the ideal scenario as we understand it... is limited by what we currently are.
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Nope, it's hell. Most adjusters are about as alcoholic as a lot of lawyers, it's a rough job. Imagine having to see divorce decrees, parenting plants, restraining orders plus the daily threats of lawsuits. At least once a month our office was full of lawyers, i'd see at least a few half million dollar lawsuits a month, sometimes more.
A few things really stick out from my time in healthcare claims, one was when we had a claim for an organ transplant, for whatever reason we billed for the whole body, the value was figured at 200-300k so yeah, even human life has a dollar value. Other biggie was how a pissed off insured called and someone accidentally gave out the address of his ex wife, the next day we found out he showed up, killed her and himself. That actually happens more than people think.
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Hearing a lot of personal imaginations and altered definitions there.
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I was thinking about it more, and I think I would like a little dog tree house big enough for me to come in and hang out too.
And maybe instead of a cabin, a geodesic dome house, like this, so I could write and watch the stars.