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The last one autosaged, so here we go.


This thread is all about LGBT+ so you can talk about your experiences, coming out stories, things you've done or taken part in, at cetera. Really just anything you want to talk about. If you want, you can even just hang out and talk in a safe space.

Please keep all arguments and major discussions out of this thread. If you see something someone said that you would like to discuss in detail about, please make another thread. Any other major discussion points can make a thread on /townhall/.

Please keep in mind that this is a positive environment. When responding to people, use affirming language rather than challenging language. In short, do not try to deter people from their courses of self discovery.

Discussion of dysphoria should be kept in the realm of personal experiences and helping people through those feelings if they have them.

Also if you are not LGBT, you are welcome in this thread, however do not talk over the people who are LGBT. You're more or less guests here, allies or not, so please act like it. I know pretty much all of you are good people and wouldn't even think of doing anything, but it's important to say.

Terfs, transmedicalists, and anti-Mogai are, as always, not allowed.

More additions to the rules of conduct may be added in the future or future threads, but for now that's about it.

I would also like to point out that if you would like to use this thread as a general "hang out" thread, you are welcome to do so. Posting here does not require you to stay on topic of LGBT issues or anything like that, just be kind and courteous to those who do want to use the thread for that.

As a personal aside, I want to say that this thread is something of a personal safe haven for me. I apologize in advance if I seem a little strict with what goes on in this thread. I'm just trying to carve out a section of this site where I feel comfortable, because I would rather not leave here forever.
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I'm pretty sure we're mostly clear as far as trick or treaters goes.  Which is kind of unfortunate, in a sense.  I wouldn't mind dressing up and handing out candy.


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lucky! our neighborhood doesn't do halloween at all, and it's so sad

but at least we get to keep all the candy :PP


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it's alright, and the fastest way to get back on track is to switch topics


ooh i know! what is a song that holds a very special meaning to you and why?


to kind of answer my own question, when i was a teenager i got super into power metal, especially after being introduced to Dragonforce. and while i did enjoy dragonforce quite a bit, I would say Kamelot's "March of Mephisto" was my first ever introduction to the concept of being able to blend musical stylings together to make seemingly impossible blends of music work

Roy Khan's voice set to the hard pounding metal and the vocalist from Dimmu Borgir really opened my eyes, and i had a HUUUUUUUUUGE metalhead bend from there.

I can't say i've been as big of a metalhead as i was back then, but i still enjoy it and when people introduce me to new bands, i get excited

so yeah! that's a good one for me ^^


A lot of songs. I think they hold meaning mostly because they resonated with me when trying to sort out my feelings or very emotional. There's a ton of em. Let's see, i'll try to find one i haven't posted.

This one resonates with me. It feels like how i feel when I've been alone in front of my computer for a long time, when i start getting lost in my own thoughts and a bit isolated. It leads to good and bad things, but this song captured the ethos of that feeling for me really well. Of starting to sink into the deep ocean of your own thoughts.

>break me down
>(i'm not afraid of you)
>pull me under
>slowly drown
>(i never wanted to)
>left alone to wonder


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god i love Blink-182 <3

and i like what you said there, being left alone and isolated, leading to both good and bad things. typically being "left alone and isolated" is negatively connotated, but you have expressed there is a good side to it, a quality of self exploration and letting the mind idly wander. i really dig that interpretation

and it's a good song nonetheless ^^


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Aw fook, I love that song.


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really? i'm so happy to hear that <3

>hugs and kajis <3

i discovered and loved kamelot seemingly all by myself in highschool, and while i've talked to people that have heard of them, i was always the odd one out

i got to see them in concert and get an autographed pic too, before roy khan left the band



I forget how I even found them originally, probably through YouTube links or something.  They had a lot of good stuff, though.  This one's another favorite.


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mmm oh god yes! i love Ghost Opera! i have that album in my desk actually!

I actually got into them just as this album was released, so i listened to this one a LOT!





god i love Blink-182 <3

Hell yea! California is great too! (Their newest album). Seems my interpretation might not be too off based on this song, which is much more blatantly about your mind racing leading to insomnia. I've definitely goddamn been there. Might be something of a theme to the album, ones relationship with their own mind and isolation i mean. I should actually listen to it all the way in song order, might reveal something neat!


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so much of our understanding of ourselves comes from society defining us, so when we take away that societal judgement and are left to our own selves, its as though our mind is now set adrift and feels almost seperate in its own right from what we used to be

and it would be so cool if the album played in order had like a specific meaning or influence <3


>so much of our understanding of ourselves comes from society defining us, so when we take away that societal judgement and are left to our own selves, its as though our mind is now set adrift and feels almost seperate in its own right from what we used to be

Oh yea. I have an almost reverent love for that kind of spiritual purity. To me, social standards are the absolute worst of spiritual, emotional, and intellectual contaminants. I think who people are deep down can get buried by what they think they're suppose to do so much that they forget who they really are or what they really want or who they really want to be, not even externally, i think a lot of people internalize it a lot. I think that's really sad. I don't think you can ever truly be happy not living for what you truly love and believe, at least on some level. I think people should live life on their own terms, and i think people doing that is truly beautiful and inspiring.


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hmm i dunno. I've felt more spiritually connected to myself in a room of people dancing simultaneously than i have by myself on a good number of occassions. i tend to feel that the different experiences and circumstances in our lives awaken different reflections on ourselves. that isn't to say that i disagree with you, because there is a lot to be said about disconnecting from the routine and tedium of life to find out what is truly inside you and to actualize on that true self

it reminds me of the heroes journey in a way, most people remember the call to action, the trials, the lowest point, the rising to and overcoming the odds, and that is all part of the journey of the individual to become the hero. however the final part is to come back home, to the normal world, as this new hero, so that you can guide the next generation.

understanding that agentic element is what seperates just slogging through routine from living your best life, whether it is by yourself isolated, or in a sea of people surrounded

anywho, i need to get to sleep, i got to get up early tomorrow morning, and there is supposed to be snow tomorrow, so i may need to brush my car off :PP

>hugs and kajis <3

goodnight insaninater!


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Goodnight star! I should be headed to bed myself. It's a late-start, but i I've still got a day as a working phlebotomist ahead of me~



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I went through and deleted some of the arguing and other posts to try and clean the thread up. It's a little after the fact, but I felt it was important towards trying to preserve something here that is kinda nice.

I know it's easy to get dragged into something or accidentally start something, but try to keep in mind that this is not the place for it so that we can keep having this nice thing.


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>I fell asleep at 4pm yesterday, and woke up at 10pm
>I have already slept for 6 hours
>sleep will not come for me
>the night is long, and restless
>I cannot move, for fear that I may wake the house, and yet I cannot sleep
I am staring at eternity




time has lost all meaning


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>Implying time ever had meaning


what even is time?


A construct of human perception!


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there was no need to do that, pretty sure no one was planning on rereading the thread... but thank you, still, its symbolic of your care for my mission with the thread and I appreciate it.


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It's snowing! And it's like 20 degrees!



I can scarcely contain my jello


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you're jello is gonna be a popsicle soon!

>hugs and kajis <3

hey esh!


Nah, I'm not cool enough

Watap Star


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doin good! just killing time before i have to leave for my next class!

how are you?

ooh also did you see my inktober from yesterday?


I made and scheduled four new spooky Lets Play episodes and my Rottytops Let's Play and edited a podcast episode. Just had dinner and am now watching Jennifer's Body - doing that whole "a horror movie for ever day in October" thing and just sorta going through my Netflix list or DVDs on my shelves.

Pfffft, that's awesome


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aww that's so cool! i should watch some when i get back home :)) i do love Rottytops quite a bit!

a horror movie every day? can your heart take such constant horror? although it's good to finally get to all those movies ^^

thank you! i had more time than usual so i got to make a full little comic :)) i have an idea of what i want to do for tonights prompt, but i need to figure out how to do it properly :PP


She coo'. The speedpaint doesn't go up till tomorrow though.

I mean, not all of them are... what you say... actually good. But I've seen some fairly neat stuff so far. Aaaaand some trash.

Well good luck keeping up with it. Never really dared dive into Inktober. I can barely get my own shit done.


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ahh okay, i'll check it out tomorrow then! i have that day off :))

bad horror movies are almost as good ones for all the wrong reasons ^^ i mean i guess it can be plain boring which is just bad in an unfun way, but if it's enjoyably bad, then it's good!

thank you! it's been a ton of fun! i usually do them in the last hour of the day in a rush of panic :PP


Yeah, I STARTED OUT with two of those. That was... something. On the other hand, I can recommend In THe Tall Grass on Netflix, and finally got around to watching The Incredible Shrinking Man, so I got a bit of classic 50'ies scifi in there too.

Imma just stick with drawing cute monstergirls like an old pervert I think


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oof! glad you made it past day 2 then! ooh what's the tall grass about? i've heard of the Incredible Shrinking Man! i haven't seen it, but i always imagine freddy mercury singing the title

modern society is supported on the backs of cute monster girls!


Yeah well, I knew they likely weren't gonna be good, but I sure didn't think they were gonna be boring.

First was Amityville 4, which SHOULD have been funny since it's all about trying to make a goddamn floor lamp scary, but it failed. Second was Whispers, a TV movie based on a Dean Koontz book that has some super gross story to it, but uh... plays like a TV soap that takes itself extremely seriously with next to nothing actually happening. So that was a dud.

In the Tall Grass is one of those dceptively simple ones. It's based on a Stephen King short and directed by the guy who did Cube, if you ever saw that one. Basically - a brother is driving his pregnant sister across state. When they stop for a moment near a tall grass field, they hear a kid call for help. So they go in to get him... and realize they can't get out. And then things start getting weird.

Incredible Shrinking Man is pretty fantastic. It's an effects marvel for the time, and stll looks pretty damn good, and again, it's perfectly simple - it's literally just a man who keeps getting smaller, dealing first with the social stuff that comes with that and then with mundane things that suddenly get very, very dangerous...

Other than that, I've watched The Final Girl, Tiny Toons Night Ghoulery, The 'Burbs, A Haunted House, Scooby Doo and the Ghoul School and right now, like I said, I'm watching Jennifer's Body.


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sounds like you have a full plate of spooks and scares! The Tall Grass one does sound fun, and i loved Tiny Toons, The Burbs, Haunted House, and Ghoul School!

>hugs and kajis <3

but unfortunately, i gotta jet! have a lovely time Esh!


Yeah I ain't exactly running out.

Have a fun class.


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horrycrap das a lot


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It just keeps coming!!!


I watched In the Tall Grass the other day and I loved it. Delightfully unsettling atmosphere in that movie. I didn't know it was directed by the same guy that did Cube but that doesn't surprise me.



And it won't stop coming?
Hit the ground running?

I mean, in a lot of ways, it IS Cube, but set in a field of grass rather than a nightmare machien. But yes, quite good stuff.


Yeah, you're right. A lot of similarities, for sure.

I was impressed with how quickly the movie managed to make a field of grass terrifying.  I also loved the small touches, like the varied ages of the cars parked outside the church, and the grass-patterned church windows that bathed everything inside green. I really got the impression that this story is something that has repeated, and will continue to repeat, itself over and over with countless different people throughout time. Absolutely fantastic


It will. It is. And it already has. The grass is all.


I really did not expect the time stuff, but it makes perfect sense. If it's constantly shifting you around in space it being able to shift you around in time too is just a very cool place to take it. It adds so much to the movie, too. Like the brother falling over early in the movie and getting mud all over himself, and then when the boyfriend finds them he's not covered in mud at all! Instantly creeped me out.

Do you think the grass spreads? The abandoned bowling alley suggested that to me, and the thought of that is very freaky.    


I don't know. Apparently in the novella it's based on, someone entertains the idea that whoever lived around there might have sacrificed people to the grass for that purpose, but nobody ever really confirms or denies




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Had to get this picture of the snow and the leaves, cause it is so pretty <3


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>tfw you wake up in the middle of the night and feel dysphoric about your physical size.


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Why is this bothering me right now, of all times?

Why am I feeling so weird about my size right now?

Why am I feeling fixated on the fact that I generally wear plus-size men's clothing, which is generally larger than women's plus sizes.

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