No.964141[Last 50 Posts]
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MFW half my coworkers think i'm gay.
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And why would they think such a thing?
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No idea, just don't care for the women here.
Dude, I'm so very confused by your behavior here. Somedays you make huge gay threads and post gay pictures, and others you wonder why some people think you are gay.
Do you have split personalities or something? I never thought I'd have to ask someone that, but apparently this place is Arkham Asylum.
In either case, we've already told you, there's nothing wrong with being gay. If your coworkers have a problem with it, they can go to hell.
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I'm debating letting the stereotype slide, incase they try something i can be an HR nightmare.>>964152
it is a crazy house
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Sometimes I wonder if you’re just gay but in denial, or if you’re a bisexual that guy that leans HEAVILY on the gay side. I mean you act more gay than I do when given the opportunity.
Have you ever had sex with a woman?
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Perhaps you sucking dicks doesn't help with your image
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But if you have
had sex with a woman you're less likely to be gay. Certainly not impossible, but less likely.
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I wonder if that'll get less common moving forward. Like being gay is a more understood and accepted thing now, so more people from a young age might accept that rather than trying out hetero sex first.
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I have. They're pretty sexy. Maybe what'll actually happen is women just give up on men entirely, instead, and now all the women are gay.
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I’m not trying to be homophobic, and I don’t even know if this would count as homophobia, or something else. But my point is that I’m not trying to be offensive.
I honestly wouldn’t consider a “gay” guy who’s had sex with a woman, especially several women to be “gay.” Personally I feel the same way towards women sexually as most straight guys describe feeling towards other guys, meaning that I find the mere thought of having sex with one or doing anything sexual with one to be completely disgusting. To the point where even if my choice was to stay a perma virgin or have sex with women I’d rather just be a perma virgin, because I have absolutely no interest in it. Even looking at sexual pictures of women can make me cringe.
If a “straight” guy, let’s say an incel who for whatever reason couldn’t have sex with women were to have sex with other men people would see him as bisexual, or at the very least bicurious, especially if he had sex with several men and had romantic relationships with them. So why would a “gay” guy who does the exact same thing but in reverse be considered “gay?”
If you have any sexual attraction towards women (alongside your attraction towards men) you’re bisexual, even if you’re 95% gay.>I've never known a gay person who's had sex with 0 women.
Then you haven’t met any gay men.
Edit; I like pre OP trans women, but that’s about it. And even then, they have male bodies, even if said bodies may be a bit feminine than a guys body.
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Probly related to your local hyperconservatism or something.>>964205
Do people really know before exploring? I didn't. Some things simply make my penis work and i don't always know what they are going to be until i experience them.>>964213>I’m not trying to be offensive
You do seem so good at it tho.
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wait hold on. How do you feel when you look at naked men?
Also talking about it tends not to be enough for some people, that's why they end up trying it.
its a clear indicator to actually discovering if its what they like.
Friend of mine was married but it turn out he was gay because it turns out he really just couldn't truly love his wife and it kept getting harder and harder to keep up the charade of being straight.
He always had this problem of maintaining a relationship with women.
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I don’t even try.
But seriously, how have you been? I’ve missed you?>>964246
I don’t know, depends on the context.>>964249
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that is legit not healthy.
you could really damage your body later down the line.
Though I find that impossible for him to do especially when you have wet dreams.
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>>964251>you could really damage your body later down the line.
Haven’t had the problem in months.
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long explanation short you can end up getting testicle/ prostates cancer later down the line.
You're fine for now because you're probably in your teen 20's.
It will only start to show when you get older and depending how good are your genetics you could end up with it by age 30.
your fine now cause your buddy still strong with you being young/along with right amount of food/keeping up with good yearly check ups and all but that only last you for so long.
I think what you are saying is only true in a vacuum, a problem you seem to have a lot.
There's no pressure on straight people to be not straight. So yeah, if a straight person claims to be straight but is sleeping with men, that's them choosing to do so and they are in denial. But gay people have pressure to be "normal", and despite not feeling right about it, they will try and date women because that's what they are "supposed" to do. It's like peer pressure, but amplified.
I don't know what it's like to be gay, but I do know what it's like to put on airs and pretend to be something I'm not because I was told I'd be defective if I didn't act a certain way. So I can understand, if that sentiment was amplified by society even more, doing something I wouldn't have done otherwise and not being happy with myself as a result. So I can understand why some gay people stay in the closet and try to pretend they aren't gay.
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They also have lower testosterone. I.E. There are both health negatives and positives.
Besides you only have to worry about prostate cancer if you never have sex and don’t masturbate. So I’m hoping that won’t be too much of a problem for me.
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That don't mean you stop doing it all together.
That's why we eat meat or at least get supplements
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>>964258>they will try and date women because that's what they are "supposed" to do.
I just can’t imagine going through all of those steps to achieve something that I don’t want. I mean getting a good women is hard, to the point where whole communities of straight men (incels) exist for the sole purpose of complaining about how hard it is. Why would a gay guy go through all of that effort for something he doesn’t want? Wouldn’t it be easier to just stay single if he doesn’t want people to know that he’s gay?
I don’t know. Maybe other gay guys aren’t as disgusted by it as I am. Maybe some of them aren’t interested in it, but they don’t necessarily have anything against it so it’s not a big problem for them.
Again it’s just hard to imagine myself in that situation, and as I said I’d sooner be a perma virgin. But my experience isn’t the experience of every gay guy. So I suppose that you could be gay and have had sex with women, under certain circumstances.>>964261https://www.menshealth.com/uk/health/a758420/you-get-45-more-testosterone-when-you-dont-masturbate-for-a-week/https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325418.php
Although having sex raises your testosterone. So if you want to max out your testosterone you should be having a lot of sex and not masturbating.>>964262>mfw I eat no meat and don’t supplement
>>964268>Although having sex raises your testosterone. So if you want to max out your testosterone you should be having a lot of sex and not masturbating
So thats what those studies concludes. Doubt.>any opportunity to rant about how disgusting women are
Sounds like youre just not pubescent mentally yet. Strange to know so much with so little actual knowledge.
Incels don't exist because "getting a good woman is hard". They exist because of other, personal hangups they have, that they are unable to or unwilling to change. And if you're gay pretending to be straight just for apperances, are you really going after "good" women? Your going with whoever will have you and being miserable about it. Also, dating is easier for some people than for others.
This article says it for a week. How do you know it's not just a short-term gain of testosterone? In fact, the first paragraph of the second article says "Masturbation does not seem to have any long-lasting effects on testosterone levels." So you didn't prove what you were tying to at all. In fact, it proved the opposite.
Besides, young men really don't need to worry about their testosterone levels. It's just people trying to sell you supplements by exploiting insecurity. Unless you feel sick, your testosterone levels are probably fine.
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>>964270>Sounds like youre just not pubescent mentally yet. Strange to know so much with so little actual knowledge.
Would you say that to a straight guy who thought that having sex with men was disgusting?
I don’t think I have to stick my dick into a women to know that I’m not attracted to them.
Alex Jones bashing won't be tolerated here>>964275
I do say that to such people. Ask Manley, our first conversations went on like that. Yes im a sperg too.
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>>964268>I just can’t imagine going through all of those steps to achieve something that I don’t want.
probably because you might have the habit of founding ways out of those situations.
There's a difference between telling yourself things and actually doing those said things.>>964268
In that case I recommend getting a check up once in a while, Sometimes things can develop without you knowing.
Theses type of things aren't really notice until the long run.
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>And if you're gay pretending to be straight just for apperances, are you really going after "good" women?
Probably not, but finding a partner, especially if you’re not interested in then isn’t easy, even if said person is just average.>How do you know it's not just a short-term gain of testosterone?
I have no doubt the results are probably diminishing, but I’d be surprised if there wasn’t at least a small long term boost, even if just 5%.
Also having a higher testosterone has countless benefits. It’s not essential, but it’s still something that you should be at least somewhat concerned about.>>964279
You essentially asked Manley why he didn’t want you suck cock right after meeting him? Ha ha, that’s pretty hilarious, (no offence to him) you’ll have to tell me how that went.>>964280>I recommend getting a check up once in a while
I’m a bit skinny, but other than that I feel perfectly healthy. If I ever feel a bit funny and the feeling doesn’t go away I’ll probably get a check up, but I see no reason for it right now, considering that I feel fine.
>>964286>I’d be surprised if there wasn’t at least a small long term boost, even if just 5%.
You can't just assume that sort of thing. You have to have evidence that it's true, or it's no better than pulling a random number out of your ass.>Also having a higher testosterone has countless benefits.
...such as? Men have varying levels of testosterone naturally, within an average range. If you aren't outside of that range, then you are considered "healthy".
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...Don't you get free heath care?
This isn't a kind of thing that you can just "know"
your body can only warn you to an extent.
reason you feel fine is because your body is doing everything it can to make sure nothing impedes you to the point of you noticing and your still young so its ok at the moment.
In the end i'm only recommending, it is your body afterall.
little bit skinny? how much do you weigh?
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>>964292>You can't just assume that sort of thing.
Fair enough. I haven’t been able find any studies proving that not masterbating has any affect on testosterone long term, or that it doesn’t. I suppose we’ll just have to wait until someone does the research.>...such as?
There are countless benefits to having high testosterone. Although having average or even below testosterone isn’t necessarily bad, as long as it’s in the normal levels.https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/testosterone-benefits/>>964295
I don’t want to bother the doctor, even if it is free. If my condition is serious I’ll know about it, otherwise I’m fine, or my problem isn’t serious enough to merit a visit to the doctors. I’ll just eat more protein and iron dense foods.>how much do you weigh?
I have no idea. I’m slightly under weight, but I actually went to the doctors about 6 months ago for a general check up and they said I was a bit skinny, but well within a healthy range. And I’m no more skinnier than I was then.
I have unusually skinny arms and small hands, but that’s just how they’ve always been, and has nothing to do with my diet.
Oh yes, it is helpful to the poor doctor to skip his recommended schedule for your checkups, so you will have only big problems for him to fix and make him explain your death to your poor mum.
See the doctor as scheduled. You already look like a corpse.
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>>964301>I don’t want to bother the doctor
You're only doing session check ups you sign for, that's not really bothering him.
unless your the type to bombard him with questions and argue about what he says.>6 months ago
Well that's good least your doing it once every 6-12 months.>I have unusually skinny arms and small hands, but that’s just how they’ve always been, and has nothing to do with my diet.
Don't do that.
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Does pic related look like a corpse to you?
I have weak arms, but other than that I’m perfectly healthy. Although I genuinely appreciate the concern.>>964309
Fair enough, I suppose we’ll have to agree to disagree. Just as long as your at a healthy level you should be fine, so I doesn’t really matter.>>964310
Yeah. As I said I’ll see the doctor if I ever feel unwell, otherwise I don’t see why I need a check up because I eat a lot more plants than the average person, ha ha. But seriously, I watch what I eat, and make sure that I get all the proper nutrients out of it.
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Genuinely half dead, I tell you.>>964310
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>>964318> As I said I’ll see the doctor if I ever feel unwell
That's not a good mindset to have especially when you get them free.
A lot of people have this mind set.
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You’re just jealous that my Ponka looks cuter than yours, so you’re insulting me.>>964323
I wouldn’t go to pone repair shop of my phone was in working order, so why would I treat my body any differently.
I’m only 18, I’ll worry about dying when I’m at least 40, but right now that’s not too much of a problem for me.
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And as I said, at 18 that’s hardly something I need to worry about.
I probably have a higher chance of getting run over by a car than I do dying of [insert disease here].
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Young indestructible all knowing.
I'm fucking off to rl. This place dead as usual.
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Why are you comparing your body to a machine?
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My point is, there’s no reason to get a check up if I feel fine.>>964343
As I said, I make sure I get all the nutrients I need. I should probably eat a bit more in general, but what I do eat is pretty healthy.
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I'm just letting you know a lot of people who end up with an unknown sickness use that mindset.
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Yep, mostly Asian. Women here for the most part aren't my cup of tea, despise the culture.
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As I keep saying I feel perfectly fine.
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It was just a joke. (For the most part, ha ha)
Anyway I need to go, see you later.
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Not exactly hetero either.... ^_~
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I suppose I’ll have to be happy with that then.
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Look at it this way, the women I tend to be attracted to here are in short supply, I won't dirty my hands with the average person here. Nothing I dislike more than someone just having a kid out of wedlock and being a tattoo'd whatever and feeling entitled to the best partner wise while bringing nothing of equal value to the table. Dating/relationships is tough enough as it is, doesn't help that it's so unequal here. I think now the USA is seeing more and more men do like the UK and go gay, considering how the courts more and more favor women and try to stick boyfriends with child support for children that aren't even theirs we'll see more of this, especially once the economy tanks again.
Once I find someone it will probably be when I leave, I know the route i'll probably go will end with me more or less opting for one side over the other, helps that the side here more or less said the hell with me after my Uncle died, no way in hell would I let the racist as hell inlaws near us nor their entitled grandchildren who are mixed with god knows what caucasian wise and still feel like they're the top of the *aryan* pile. My brother and his Vietnamese spouse made that choice too sorta, easier since all of us are not from here originally and were raised differently. Going to be interesting to see how things play out in the coming years, esp. once we're gone.
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>>964580>I won't dirty my hands with the average person here.
I apologize, your highness, I didn't mean to offend your delicate sensibilities.
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Maybe Fleur was referring to bisexual men choosing to date other men instead of women?
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>>964638>I mean, why would you bother dating women if men were an option for you?
To engage in sex for the sole purpose of procreation, as God intended.
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That sounds like too much work for too little payoff.
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Im just responding to how mom and myself have been treated. That and i don't support the belief that its their right to shit all over themeselves and others and have those of us who've suffered because of them to wipe their ass. I do this with my enlightened best interests in mind, considering most here have had it so good for so long they have mo excuse nor my pitty.>>964637
but when your child has grown a few years, you can make them work for you
it can be a big payoff, mando
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I've got like 1000 kids and none of them work for me.
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i'm annoying and smelly too>>964647
mindi, just buy the kid
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For someone not gay you sure show your butt a lot.>>964645
I want kids eventually.
You need to elaborate on how your family is racist sometime. I can’t imagine your family being as overtly racist as you make them out be.>I think now the USA is seeing more and more men do like the UK and go gay,
Is that your plan?>>964633
I don’t know, most women, and even guys to a lesser extent are pretty trash.
I don’t have a particular high opinion of myself, I just have a very low opinion of the average person.>>964638>video related
But seriously, the vast majority of bisexual men lean heavily on the straight side and tend to settle down into straight relationships. I personally wouldn’t be surprised if most bi men haven’t had sex with a guy, or only did it once.
Very few people are 50/50, and Fleur is just a rare exception of a bi guy who leans more on he gay side.
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Im a little bi, also hey its a selling point~
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Wasn't aware you were selling it.
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Actually, the opposite is becoming true, at least here. Marriage is such a bad deal for men here many either go mgtow, marry an asian/hispanic woman or opt for men. Go to Seattle sometime, so many beta nerdy men end up sleeping with each other the usa is now ending up with a surplus of single mothers with fewer takers. The beta bux pool is drying up.
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So you'rE only bi for the money?
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I honestly can’t imagine many straight men going gay out of desperation. I’ve heard Manley talk about the fact that he wishes he was gay because everything would just be so much easier if he was, and it’s a sentiment that I’ve heard from a lot of straight guys. But none, or at least very few actually go gay. I think we don’t realise just how disgusting the idea of fucking a guy is to most straight guys, or at least I’d imagine that they think it’s pretty disgusting.
Also my question was more directed towards you personally.>>964659
Nah, Fleur is a lot gayer than that.
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>>964660>I honestly can’t imagine many straight men going gay out of desperation.
Live here some time, esp in cities like seattle or san francisco.>>964661
In that case its desperation or forced.
that answers the "here" part, but not the statistics part.
I'm actually curious whether or not what you are describing is having a measurable effect, or if it's just what you personally are seeing because of the circles you frequent.
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I honestly think most of those guys are bi or gay, although I’m sure some do it out extreme desperation.>>964663
I couldn’t imagine living in America long term, but I think I’ll go to the country quite a bit in the future, specifically to meet up with people.
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>>964670>I couldn’t imagine living in America long term
Yeah, we all know why...
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That, and also the fact that America doesn’t have anywhere near as good services as we do. (Health care being just one example) I also think Scotland’s an ideal country because we have a lot of amazing and varied wildlife, but we also have some really beautiful cites and towns. Plus I’d burn up if I lived in most parts of America. There are many other reasons, but those are just a few.
I might move to Edinburgh one day, but I don’t see why I’d leave the country.>>964676>Dude, why are you always bringing up racial stuff?
You’d be surprised. In many ways he’s a lot more racist than me.
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I'm not sure taking such an aggressive stance with people is a great way to have a productive discussion, and this is getting less and less casual.
I doubt that.>>964680
Yeah, please don't spin what he thinks that way.
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This, let’s try to calm down a bit.
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Vaguely on-topic, I'm not sure people should be so concerned about the sexuality of others. You like whoever you like, and your reasons are up to you and the people directly affected by such things. I don't feel like it needs argued about at all, you know?
Love who you want, let other people love who they want. If someone's being judgmental, just keep being you near them anyway.
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>>964685>Love who you want, let other people love who they want.
Agree 100%>>964685> I'm not sure people should be so concerned about the sexuality of others.
Unless you want to date them, of course -- then it would be helpful to know if they swing your way ;-)
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They go back to being straight after they serve there time.
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It's called "gay for the stay"! And when you're a male prostitute, it's called "gay for pay"!
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I heard that most prisoners don’t consider it gay unless you bottom.
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Wow, prison rape. That's a really cool.. thing to be talking about. Not at all weird.
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That's because usually the bottom prisoners give up and accept they're fate
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>>964678>You’d be surprised. In many ways he’s a lot more racist than me.
I'm pretty sure I've seen him advocate white genocide, so I don't think I'd actually be surprised at all.>>964689>>964688>>964670
As far as how gay people are, I think I agree with Mint. If you can start off with a wife that you're having sex with but then aren't satisfied and seek out men, or if you were enjoying your wife but when women are cut off (because you're in prison) you seek out men, then I'd label you bisexual. I think a great deal many people are actually bisexual, even if it romantically they're attracted to specific things.
To use Manley as an example, he's pretty clearly disgusted by the idea of sex with men, and I kinda get the feeling he wouldn't resort to that even if he was in prison. But he also comments on how much easier it would be to have a male relationship, which I think implies he's homoromantic, a very unfortunate situation for poor Manley.
But if something like that can happen, I don't think it's a stretch to say there's a lot of bisexual people, leaning more one way or another, who are heteroromantic, and would definitely choose a female spouse despite technically being willing to seek out men for sex when their desires aren't being filled by women.
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Homoro-what now? Homorobotic? Robots can't be gay.
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It's only funny because it's true. Not funny because it's an at all ok thing to do, but that type of humour that lets us look at the comedy of how horrible the human race can be at times, so we can comprehend and deal with it. Like a type od stress relief.
Like, if you don't find it funny and it genuinely makes you feel uncomfortable, Im sure we can stop, but it is that
type of humour, you know?
"That makes yoouu...
A gay robot."
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I said that they consider it not gay, because they have no other choice.
Also in that case are traps gay? How about pic related as an example? (That’s a question that I honestly can’t answer. I want to say it’s bisexual, but even that’s a cope out.)>>964695
I think the bottom prisoners are probably just gay.>>964698>I've seen him advocate white genocide,
Really? He’s basically told me that we should kill all non-White, and non-East Asian people, or at least that he wouldn’t mind taking out a lot of them.
Anyway I don’t want to talk about it. I don’t like talking about things people have told me off site.>>964699
“Homoromantic.” >A person who is romantically attracted to a member of the same sex or gender.
Would you be willing to date a guy, as long as you weren’t having sex with him? (Unless you changed your mind and wanted that, ha ha.) You could think of it as a very close friend who you live with.
if we aren't having sex, then it's not really "dating". It just hanging out and being best buds.
Also, someone made a video about "are traps gay" but I'm not sure I agree with her conclusion. But check it out if you want.
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Tbh, that was for people here and was more so them tearing themselves apart for my own entertainment, not me raising a finger. Also, out of respect for moony i do try to refrain now, i like him and know right now he's working his good hearted ass off so i was trying to behave for his sake.
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Apologizes, about the jokes.
It was a bit dark.>>964698>But he also comments on how much easier it would be to have a male relationship, which I think implies he's homoromantic
Nah i get what he means.
For instance if I was gay I'd get laid
often because throughout my life guys have always hit on and flirted at me way more than they should.
Meanwhile most girls often say no to me.Though tbf I tend to have high standards >>964705
Lets just say the culture there is at the same level as wolves.
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A relationship is a lot more than sex. For example you’d call him your boyfriend, you’d live permanently together, you’d sleep in the same bed, you’d go on romantic dates, etc. Pretty much what normal couples do, minus the sex. How would you feel about that?>Also, someone made a video about
Yeah, I’ve seen all of Contras videos, I love her channel.
Also I was asking you the question.
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It's fine, I just don't have particularly thick skin for rape jokes. Not big on the human suffering thing. This was probably not a great thread to be in.>>964708
I'd really prefer you treat people nice just because it's the right thing to do.
That doesn't sound like something I would go for, honestly. Like romantic dates? With a guy? That'd be ultra weird. Roommates would be one thing, but sleeping in the same bed? Why? >>964709
Yeah, pretty much this. Except my standards are not all that high.
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Heterosexual life partners.
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>>964712>That doesn't sound like something I would go for,
Ok you’re not homoromanitc then. I just thought it made sense after someone else suggested it.>Why?
It would take me too long to explain, and I don’t want to gross you out, ha ha. Short answer is, boys are cute.
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None the less I'll stop.>>964718
No they aren't...>>964722
Shouldn't that mean you should strive NOT to be an asshole, then? If other people are assholes, and you see that as a problem, then that doesn't justify you acting in ways that perpetuate the problem. >>964721Reference to the history between "Peppermint" and I.
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Ha ha ha, now people are going to ship us. I’d play along, but I don’t want to piss him off further.>>964727
You have no idea.
How are girls sexy, or cute?
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Hey, that's enough. Leave your problems with my sisters out of this thread and off this site. Take it to private, or whatever you want, but you're hurting my feelings and I don't appreciate being in emotional pain. Thank you.
You've already been warned about this several times. The reason I'm not personally doing something about it is that it involves me.
But please stop. You are causing me emotional pain. Please?
They have boobs. And thighs. And like, all sorts of nice parts. >>964730
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Manley, do you know what "Subjectivity" is?
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But boys also have really nice thighs.
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A shame. Lot of confusion would be alleviated.
Wait a sec, is it... when something is underground?
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Now you know how I feel about boobs, ha ha.>>964738
...Stop teasing me...Teasing cute boys is my job...
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Most girls take that category though.
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And im being polite and keeping my mouth shut.>>964745
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Girls have fat thighs.
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>>964748>Girls have fat thighs.
Where do you live?
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Nah, soft medium size boy thighs are the best.
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Awww, thank you sweetie.
Here is Freddy Mercury singing about girls with fat butts and thighs. Despite Freddy Mercury being one of the gayest people ever to live and actually dying from being too gay, he was able to appreciate the beauty of fat-bottomed girls. Therefore, I win the argument.