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 No.836894[View All]

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 No.837528

>>837524
Ah, but you see, I do not judge myself. God does. And I know that he will judge me sinful, and so I choose not to disobey him.

I do not condemn others for not following the guidelines and rules I am given, but I do follow them myself.

 No.837538

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>>837528
Okay! How about this:
Try talking to god. If he doesn't respond, then gods not real.
OR it proves god is evil and doesn't want to help you clarify your circumstance.
And if you can talk to god, go see a professional.
I know religion can provide hope when you have faith, but there's gotta be more to it than just religion.

 No.837540

>>837538
you say that with the presumption that I will fail, because you do not believe it can happen, failing of course, to account for the fact that I do, and I do believe I have.

Your argument is invalid.

 No.837543

Just saying, the whole "what kind of god would..." argument that some of you are making is illogical.  Worship of God isn't necessarily contingent upon one's personal approval of God's will - expressed or implied.

 No.837545

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>>837528
Sinful for what, exactly? Being born a specific way? Is that fair?

 No.837546

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All hail the all knowing and all powerful god.

Ah forgetit

I believe we are in the matrix now

 No.837549

>>837545
thoughts are not sinful if no action comes of them

 No.837551

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>>837540

Listen...
This thread ended up being more serious than I would have ever imaginated.

I'd talk with you about how my faith have clashed with some situation in the past, but that kind of comparison would be disrespectful to you.

... Don't you have a close enough person in your life whom you would be able to share these feelings with?
I am worried, because the feelings provoked by these "life changing" positions can end up very well or very very bad.

Self-destruction is always stalking, awaiting for a moment of weakness.

 No.837553

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>>837549
You do realize how the science of being Transgender works, correct? They are not just thoughts. It's actually caused by a misfire of hormones during the second half of pregnancy. It's a physical condition, it's not all in your head.

 No.837561

>>837551
I do have people I normally talk about these things with, but  I never say no to new opinions as long as the person is at least trying to be constructive. In a council of many there is wisdom. I take in all available information and make an informed decision, and sometimes debate is the method through which information is weighed.

Now, originally this was literally just me crying because I didn't know how to form words, and I really didn't want to. I get pretty emotional at the original onset of a dilemma, which is why I often take so long to actuallly make decisions, to let the emotions cool off. But when I was calm, someone asked if I wanted to talk about it, and for the reasons I've just mentioned, I decided to engage.

If what you have to say is intended to help, and not clearly malicious, I will surely not find disrespect.



>>837553
Can you provide scientific evidence for that?

 No.837565

>>837561

Okey...
I am glad you at least seem to have your feelings under control.

>If what you have to say is intended to help, and not clearly malicious, I will surely not find disrespect.

... I don't think it would help. Actually, I still have these problems.

 No.837580

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>>837561

Scientific evidence is very new but brain scans of transgender people more closely match those of people of their desired gender

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180524112351.htm

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/

Theres better sources but my search result is clogged with short secondary sources but yes there is a solid physiological foundation.

Im often troubled by especially children saying its because they want to wear the other genders clothes etc which is socially assigned gender role and that can be confusing blah blah plenty of other concerns as well but.  Those people i know who've struggled with dysphoria are plagued with feelings of their body being wrong, depression, etc.  Once they realize/make the decision they feel a lot better.  This is anecdotal n by no means representative of everyone or you, just what those few i know have told me.

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>>837561
https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/262525
http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2016/gender-lines-science-transgender-identity/

Here's a couple basic resources.

I'll paste the most relevant parts:
The fetal brain develops during the intrauterine period in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and sexual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb. However, since sexual differentiation of the genitals takes place in the first two months of pregnancy and sexual differentiation of the brain starts in the second half of pregnancy, these two processes can be influenced independently, which may result in extreme cases in trans-sexuality. This also means that in the event of ambiguous sex at birth, the degree of masculinization of the genitals may not reflect the degree of masculinization of the brain. There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity or sexual orientation.


It's science.

 No.837622

>>837125
Doesn't the Old Testament also say that wearing cotton/polyester blend shirts and eating pork are verboten?  I thought that Jesus nullified all those silly old rules.  I'd try to provide some citations, but I am phone now.

 No.837645

>>837580
Well I am interested to know how I would look in a dress after transitioning but that does not affect my ultimate decision. I've always felt like I was female. My mother even fondly remembers a hilarious moment where as a five year old boy I lifted up my shirt and asked "Mommy, when do mine get big like yours?"
A funny memory for her, a bewildering moment for me, as she explained that mine would never get big like that because I was a boy.

>>837601
thank you

>>837622
yes, Levitican law was later abolished, that's why not all sources are from the old testament.

 No.837943

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>>837645

For the record, i know you're going to be gorgeous and elegant in a dress.

Also don't let that religious baggage come between you and God.  If you weren't supposed to end up in a dress He wouldn't have made you the way you are.

 No.838032

>>837125
Ok, I just read all those quotes, and I see nothing against altering one's body as a medical treatment for gender dysphoria.

 No.838041

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>>838032
God also appears to be a male according to the OP

 No.838059

>>838041
>>838041
Depends what you mean by "male".  I don't think any Abrahamic religion posits that God literally has sperm-producing gonads.

 No.838066

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>>838059
I'm not debating whether god is male.
I'm just saying OP claims god as male

 No.838067

>>838066
God is always referred to with male pronouns

 No.838071

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>>838067
MY EYES!!!!!

 No.838072

>>838071
I don't get it

 No.838073

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>>838067
Nah, jk
I suppose God is all the genders...

 No.838083

>>838073
There is a.differenece between being male and being referred.to with male.pronojns.  Eg, in German, the word "Mädchen" means "girl" but it is grammatically neuter rather than feminine.

 No.838084

>>838071
>MY EYES
They are kawaii :3

 No.838099

>>838067
Thats probly because until recently male pronouns are all-encompassing.  Son of Man, mankind, chairman etc.

 No.838101

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>>838099
Sweetie Belle doesn't like religion

 No.838102

>>838099  "he" and "him" are gender neutral when referring to a person of unknown gender

 No.838188

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>>838102

Exactly, and a chairman is a chairman regardless of gender.

Theres no such thing as a chairperson, unless maybe a person who is a chair but that's furniture fetish so shhh i didn't say nuthin.  Furniture fetish pic!  Straight from the show so it gets through!!

Ponies are for little girls!

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 No.838233

>>838101
What kind of religion is there in Equestria?  Do the ponies worship Celestia as a living deity?  Will Sweetie Belle be burnt at the stake as a heretic if she refuses?

 No.838238

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>>844229
Hi there.

 No.844235

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 No.844241

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>>844232
I am in need of hugs please

 No.844242

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>>844241
Bad night?

 No.844243

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 No.844244

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>>844243
Sorry to hear...

 No.844246

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>>844244
it's okay. They happen sometimes.

A hurricane comes and tries to tear me away from the world piece by piece, and I need a friend to hold me down, hold me together, and remind me that someone cares.

 No.844247

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>>844246
I kind of feel you there...

Those storms are no fun.

 No.844248

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>>844247
friends make them survivable

 No.844249

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>>844248
They do.

I have a bad habit of trying to weather them on my own though.
it doesn't work all that well

Friends are important.

 No.844250

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>>844249
very important

 No.844251

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>>844250
Very!

Didn't you begin drawing a while back? Still at it?

 No.844252

>>844251
I'm a little stuck until I can find a new eraser. I never realized how much I rely on it until I lost it.

 No.844253

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>>844251
but I did manage to draw this girl

 No.844257

>>844252
Heh, no, that's how it usually goes I suppose.

>>844253
Looks nice.
Hope you find a new eraser so you can get unstuck.

 No.844259

>>844257
thanks


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