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So the Evolution Championship (called "Evo" by fans) is the world's biggest fighting game tournament. But it has unfortunately been canceled this year due to the public health crisis. BUT they have announced they are going to be having an online tournament, and that "Them's Fightin' Herds", the game that began life as a MLP fangame, will be one of the games in the tournament.

So who here is going to enter and become the world champion of kicking cute animals in the face?


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You forgot the first part of the story.  Its slot was intended for Smash Bros Ultimate, but Nintendo's netcode is so bad they booted them out.

The largest, most popular, most successful fighting game of all time was canned in favor of an MLP fan game.


I heard that! I suppose it can't be help if Nintendo's netcode is so poor the game can't feasibly compete in the tournament.

TFH benefits from being made in the Skullgirls engine, and that game focused on having really good netcode. It's in the tournament too, despite being a few years old now.

Maybe this will learn Nintendo not to suck!


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i am not nearly good enough to enter the bracket, i would drown in pools no doubt.

but its good to see the game get a significant spot at a major event, especially as it just recently hit 1.0

speaking of, havent played through the whole thing, but have played story mode up through the paprika fight and am enjoying it quite a bit! I think a lot of fighting games could benefit from having single player features more similar to what this has got c:



Pretty doubtful whether or not Nintendo really cares too much about trying to push Smash Bros as a seriously competitive game. Much less one that revolves around online play rather than local multiplayer, which was usually the funnest way to play Smash Bros.


Who do you play?

Smash Bros isn't really a fighting game for that reason. It's a fun party game with some punching involved.


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Actually, Smash Bros. was intended as a side scroller with a fighting minigame.


Some conspiracy theorists believe this is the first step in removing Smash Bros from Evo in the future. Because it's not a fighting game.



>Smash Bros isn't really a fighting game for that reason. It's a fun party game with some punching involved.

it is a fighting game. Just not a serious one. The genre tag isn't a honorific to be earned by a game, it's just a description


ooh, interesting. I might check it out, but I should probably download Them's Fightin' Herds first


It's fun. I have a copy because I kickstarted it years ago. I think my name is technically in the credits, but I haven't gone to look yet.

If you want to understand the basics of fighting games, there's a really in-depth video explaining some common concepts.


It's not a fighting game because it doesn't share the same mechanics as other fighting games. Just like Candy Crush doesn't share the same mechanics.


whoa, now I understand why I used to kick ass with Kirby on Brawl and Melee. I pretty much exclusively used his smash moves which are just basic jabs and kicks, and have very low frame attacks. Shame I never learned to block or reverse.

I would call any game where characters fight a mostly physical battle in a confined space that can fit reasonably on a screen a fighting game.


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i can do a little bit with most of the cast since the roster is pretty small, but for the most part i main Arizona. probably help my enjoyment of story mode that she is the character featured so far by it.

not to get into this age old debate yet again, but actually there are a fair few elements (quite arguably the most defining ones) that smash shares enough that personally i would classify it as a fighting game.
however, admittedly, the competitive rulesets used to make it more similar to other fighting games *are* a departure from the intended design of the game, so i dont blame anyone who sees this differently.

Fun Fact: Sakurai was inspired to create smash because he felt guilty after crushing a young couple in King of Fighters at the arcade and so wanted to make a "fighting game everyone can casually enjoy"  to me that origin makes it enough of a fighter already.


I like Tianhuo, but I need to practice with her a bit. I'm having trouble getting the hang of using her in the air, which is the point of the character.

And yeah, I don't think Smash is a bad game, it's a great came for casual fans of fighting games. But it's not designed to be competitively played like other games.


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ah, yeah Tianhuo can be quite scary once you are able to use her fly effectively. She is the hardest character for me to play personally, but she seems fun. I like that about this game though, the roster is small, but varied enough you can probably find your niche? Tianhuo plays like an MvC character, Arizona plays a bit like KoF, etc.  you can find your comfort zone within the cast.

and yeah yeah, i agree. it definitely was not designed to be played the way it is.  i quite enjoy smash competitively regardless, but i would never insist it was intended to be played that way, that would be silly :p


Kirby's a decent character because Smash introduces another element to the game that other fighting games don't. Being able to reach the stage again after being knocked away. They call that "recovery". And Kirby can fly, so his recovery is very good.

See, I like MvC and rushdown characters. So I will practice with the dragon a bit more.


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nice nice ^^
hope you have fun with it <3


Kirby is a great character for beginners, largely because of that recovery, yes.

However, overall kirby just has so many weaknesses he's considered one of the weaker characters in every title in the series aside from 64.
his frame data is just kind of okay, not amazing. he's got lots of jumps, but both his aerial and ground speed cant keep up with a lot of the cast. he can combo a ton!.. but struggles to cash those combos in with kill options.. playing kirby is an uphill battle
and i am saying this as a stubborn kirby main who has played him in every game of the series. I love the little guy, but the life of a kirby main is a tough one. much respect for my fellow kirbys <3


that is true. Kirby is actually the only character where ^B is the last thing you want to do after being knocked off stage. Any other character you would want to use ^B to recover, but with Kirby you just press y a few times and you're there.

Also, I really like the lexical layering of their names. I've never played the game but I instinctively know that Arizona is the cow based on Applejack's original moveset, and Tianhuo is the dragon based on Rainbow Dash's original moveset.

if you ever check out the game data for my brother's old wii, you'll find that Kirby tops five main categories.
KO count
KO'd count
Damage dealt
Damage taken
time played.

I main Lukas these days, but that's if I play at all, which is not much since I moved out of my parents' house


that's awesome that it's getting such great recognition and finding just the right slot at the right time to get noticed ^^

i main as Isabelle myself ^^

>hugs and kajis <3


Gotta use that Falcon Punch.

Down B will return you to the stage if you get knocked vertically, though. I use that sometimes.

>I main as Isabelle

Ok, if that's what you wanna do on your Saturday nights. But who do you play as?


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that actually reminds me of a custom stage I designed once for quick battles. It was just a single line of thin panels running across the screen as high up as I could go. If you fell through, you would need to attempt a recover or die, and if you jumped too high, you would pass through the edge barrier and die. This made Kirby's Up B move dangerous for anyone who used it, because unless you were on or below the stage when you used it... you died. Suffice to say it is no longer my favorite stage.


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interesting. i always find it fascinating how people play the same characters in such different ways. i use kirby's ^b quite a bit, it has to be spaced correctly, but its actually quite a useful mixup for recovery. jumping to stage works well too though.

haha, oh dear, those categories do sum up kirby quite well :p
can certainly dish out the damage, but is likely going to take a few bumps along the way.

lucas is fun c:


>hugs <3

Isabelle is so cute! i would love to main her, but her playstyle just doesnt fit me i think. though friends have told me she is my best character, i just dont feel it when i play her ;-;

falcon punching a falcon player as kirby is one of the greatest joys in life :p


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hey vines!

>hugs and kajis <3

it's wonderful to see you again my friend <3 how have you been doing lately?

i love the irony of the least violent character in nintendo being a force of death. plus her are control and manipulation is great ^^ although i am nowhere NEAR good enough for competitive play, i always felt comfortable with her

but you should play whoever you want! who do you like to play as most?


I like to play as the Mii Fighter.

Why is she sexy?


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because you are a furry, manley ^^


Oh, I am not!


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it is good to see you as well, how have you been?  i am doing okay, have somehow been quite busy despite the quarantine, but overall things have been good c:

that is definitely a fun and silly idea :p  all the doom crossover stuff is lovely for that reason ^^ and yeah, her control of space with her fishing rod if you are not careful is wonderful too. and that is fine, the game is a lot of fun casually or competitive, if you are having a good time thats what matters c:

oh, kirby for sure. playing him just feels natural and his combo flow just makes sense to me. sometimes i will play daisy as well,and for a while i had samus as my secondary. when i play with friends i mostly just hit the random button, so i technically play everyone a bit


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You can't hide what's inside...

i'm glad you are keeping happy and busy during the quarantine ^^ i had been doing that, but then i finally graduated college, and i suddenly went from very busy to having little to do :PP

oh i also dropped another vid ^^

oh man, Isabelle in Doom is my total aesthetic to a T! have you heard that Eternal Horizon song? it's perfect <3

it's always so fun to plant a gyroid, hook the opponent,trigger the gyroid, and throwing them into an explosion ^^

Kirby is fun! classic feeling fighter for sure. was never a main fighter for me, but definitely one of the more well known fighting sets :))

samas is always fun too!

i'd say my second would probably be Lucario, cause if i'm gonna take damage, i might as well make it work for me :))


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Give me one good reason you think I'm a furry.


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nicole watterson and glaceon for starters :PP


thanks ^^ and ah, congrats on graduation! but yeah, that will happen, i definitely had a dip when my semester ended as well :p

oh nice! i will add it to my watch later list, i'm currently bouncing between here and chores, but will give it a look! love seeing how each of your videos gets better and better ^^

nice! its a very good one c:  and oh? i dont think ive heard the song no?

haha, mhm, a scary setup for sure ^^

ah, lucario's aura mechanic is so scary ;-;  i am afraid of doing much to him unless i can guarantee to finish him off :p


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Look, all I said is that Nicole Watterson is hot and that I want her to step on me! That doesn't make me a furry!


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thank you vines! i'm happy that it's done, but now i am in a void and i gotta figure out what to do with myself, but for now i'm taking a couple weeks to distinictly not do anything ^^

lemme know what you think! it was my project for a class, and it turned out pretty well for a month worth of work :PP

oh it's great song!

the music video is only 1:30 long, the full song is 2:30

oh yeah! i love that sort of radius of control! plus she's precious <3

exactly! he's my backup when my normal setup isn't working, and i just need my hit sponge body to blast them!

i don't kinkshame here! you enjoy your furry dom paraphilia my friend ^^



For the record, I don't have a "being stepped on" fetish. That was a joke. What I really want Nicole to do I can't talk about here on the site!


I haven't played the newer games, so I haven't gotten an opportunity to try isabelle. How is she?

That involves a lot of psychology and I'm not sure it can be adequately explained in the next few posts, but suffice to say I think that art piece incorporates a number of elements you find stimulating, and a cute cartoony face is slapped on almost seamlessly, so that it doesn't seem out of place, and your brain associates the arousal it gets from the other elements with the face that is spliced seamlessly in. Does that make sense?
#not a real psychologist


yeah, discussion of fetishes is definitely a no go.

I think. Have they updated the rules recently? I've been gone a while.


It was a rhetorical question.

As far as I know it's ok in moderation. They have an LGBT thread, after all. But my saying I "couldn't talk about it here" was me being hyperbolic to imply that what I'd actually want is so depraved and lewd it would violate the rules to even state.


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oh i know manley...

i know very well...

her strengths are in techniques and combo set ups. her down b places a gyroid in the ground that will fly up and explode by proximity, or by using down b again.

But what people really know her for is her side B which makes her use a fishing rod, and if the opponent is hit, they are realed in to a hold, and can be thrown in any direction.  

so a lot of her fighting is setting up combos and manipulating the space in tricky ways. and she can catch almost any projectile with B, then use it herself with B again


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What do you know?


ah, very well. We'll let it die there then.

ooh, she has an extra grab then? or does the fishing rod replace the normal grab animation?

ooh, grabbing and reusing projectiles... reminds me of a young blond haired boy I once played.


that is fair, you definitely deserve the time to figure things out and relax ^^

will do! and oooh, sounds promising c:

oooh, this is very good, yeah ^^

mhm ^^ and of course, her most important quality c: <3

hehe :p


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i know all the things, manley...

allllllllllllllllll the things...

she still has a standard grab. The fishing rod is a seperate move but the fishing rod acts as a long range grab, and it has great distance, and the ability to turn around platform edges, and being able to hold them out for a small time, so it can be it's own little death trap.

>young blond haired boy i once played.

who is that?

>hugs and kajis <3

thank you! <3

her cuteness is second only to her sheer force of destructive power...


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Then what am I thinking about right now?


>who is that?
Lukas. Well, Ness and Lukas. Their whip and yoyo can grab thrown objects out of the air and throw them back. It's a bit of a trick to do and requires a bit of timing, but it can be done.



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OOOOOOOoooooooooo! sorry i forgot they could do that! i never felt comfortable playing as ness or lukas, i apologize ^^

but i've seen people absolutely dominate with them!


Lukas is a lot of fun, but he's a mid-range fighter, which can make rush-down opponents annoying, and snipers like Snake infuriating.


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sounds fun^^


King K. Rool though is the worst. he has a near perfect counter that makes him pretty much untouchable, though I could just be really bad at the game.


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I'm still not a furry.


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how did it become 1:30am?
goodnight everyone <3
K.Rool is so tough to fight against! for a big fighter, he's super versatile!

>hugs and kajis <3

goodnight <3

yes you are!

>hugs and kajis <3

goodnight manley T. Furryface ^^


Goodnight Star!


Goodnight Star


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Now that I've proven to Star that I'm definitely not a furry, we can get down to the real burning question here. Which character from Them's Fightin' Herds is the sexiest


the alpaca


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Paprika. And you'd be killed if you tried!



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the banana


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She's very rough. Her whole character archetype is that she's never actually trying to hurt anyone, just playing with them. But it does damage to you all the same. She's also probably bisexual


It is an impressive banana, but not my type.


sounds fun



They said, feeling their ribcage begin to break


BTW, Level 3 Supers are coming, and they all look awesome.


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paprika's most certainly a brilliant chunk of diamond!!!
Oh gosh, I do love the facial expressions. it's so worth to watch the section in freeze frames.


It's going to be a little bit before those Level 3 Supers are put into the game, and I'm wondering how they will change the gameplay. Still, they are all very well animated and hilarious. I want to see Paprika's done on the other characters.

Also, there's another character that they haven't even started working on yet. A Goat.


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Wasn't the final boss a goat?


As far as I know there isn't a final boss yet.


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Welcome to Fighting Game terminology with Manley! Today we are going to go over some common terms to get you ready for the EVO Championship.

When you meet someone who sucks at the game, that person is called a "Scrub"! Can you say "Scrub"?


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A scrub is a guy that can't get no love from me.


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Because I'm looking like class and he's looking like trash, can't deal with his dead-beat ass!


You know what's up.

Honestly, though, I'm shoulder deep in my own scrubbery when it comes to games, so I avoid competitive play.


Guys, we still haven't chosen Ponyville's champion for the tournament.


Would you punch a horse?


Depends on what the horse did. But they are pretty tough, I'd probably just piss it off.


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Would you punch a horse if it was possessed by satan?

What if it was also cute?


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I'm glad this came out, even though it got changed from being ponies.
I still have a copy of the original, but It was unfinished.

I've been too busy practicing MK11  instead of this. Hard to find opponents.
I'd want to watch and see who the best character is in Fighting Herds.


She's not possessed. The book is possessed. I would not punch Oleander. I'd probably... do other things.

I heard MK11 added Robocop. When are they just going to make a movie characters MK game? I'd play it.

Also, Tian Huo is the best character in TFH.


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They did! Although I dont think anyone asked, still cool.
Now Spawn, Robocop and the Terminator are all in the same game! its like a 90s dream!

Is Tian Huo the best because he's the coolest, or is he borderline broken?


I still think they should just do a movie characters game, HorrorCombat or something. Bring back Jason and Alien.

I do like that they got the guy who played Goliath to be Spawn like in the cartoon.

She. All the characters in TFH are girls... so far. They said they aren't against male characters and even Skullgirls eventually added 2 boys. But only one character is planned to be added to TFH at the moment.

And Tian is the best because she's a dragon that's on fire. What are you going to do if a dragon that's on fire hurls it's entire body at you? Besides I dunno, pray I guess.


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Someone fight me.


I didn't say anything.


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Ooh interesting, they're all girls. I didn't know that. Thats holding to the spirit of Fighting is Magic I suppose.
>What are you going to do if a dragon that's on fire hurls it's entire body at you?
If you can't beat em, befriend them?
I would imagine an ultimate movie character fighting game would be epic, but licensing is a nightmare.


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*punches you as hard as I can in the dick*


Well they don't seem to have any problem licencing characters now. MK and the studio that makes it is all owned by Warner Brothers. That's how they were able to make the Injustice games. WB also owns DC comics.


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oof muh dick


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I should get this game, especially since I played the hell out of Skullgirls when it came out.
Used to be kinda good too... on console mind you.

Haven't played it much for PC, though I freaking own it.


You should play it.

And you should get this game. I only have it because I kickstarted it ages ago. My name should be in the credits, but I haven't checked.


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Fight me.


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Still don't have the game.
Nor am I just going to fight someone.


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I got skullgirls on PC.


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I don't have it installed currently.

Or have played it in forever.

plus i'm rusty as hell when it comes to those kinds of games


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Well starting development on a game with a whole bunch of licensed characters will result in what happened with Fighting is magic.
Lots of progress made, only for it to be stopped by C+D.
If they made a game like that, I think Warner Bros could pull it off with their IP's but nothing more.
It'd still be an impressive lineup.
Batman vs Alien?!
Securing licenses takes time. And you could lose them too.
In Dead by Daylight, they secured the license for Freddy Kruger, but NOW they can't put him in the Nintendo Switch port, or add any cosmetics for him. awkwaard


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Practice and fight me.


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*sigh* alright, lemme just reinstall this thing.


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Poke me anytime.


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Let me at least get m bearing on this game again.


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No rush <3


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God damn it... my controller is all kinds of messed up.
Doesn't register inputs properly, up on the thumb stick doesn't seem to work.
*sigh* looks like I need to get a new one...


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Don't spend money just to play with me.


Yeah, but Fighting is Magic was always a fan game, it had no claim to any of the characters. And Hasbro only intervened because it was getting so much attention.Warner Bros already has the rights to all the characters they could use, so that wouldn't be an issue.

But yeah, this licensing stuff can be a nightmare. They stopped development on the Friday the 13th game because actual court cases debating who created Jason came up. Even though they had licenced the character, the person they licenced him from might not have had the right to do so anymore. It was a mess. The laws around copywrite will have to be updated eventually because all of this is getting silly.

But WB is a big company. It's got so many movies and TV shows and all of DC comics. I bet they could make a decent game with just their characters.

>Dead By Dawn

I'm still waiting for them to put the scariest 80s monster in that game... Ronald Reagan.


What is this weird sexual ferret thing you keep posting?


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Well it wouldn't be just for you, since I do enjoy using a controller for certain games I play.
Mainly anything that has a third person component to it, just feels more natural.

It's been a while coming, and might as well see if there's some deal or something to try and snag a good price somewhere.


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inb4 "I'M A MINK!"


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What do you mean sexual?

Well in that case yea might be a good idea.
I'm surprised my 360 controller still works, it's quite old.


It's fairly sexual.


Buy the game. Become Ponyville's Champion at EVO. Defeat SonicFox.


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God, it seems like no one has anything nearby that's affordable...


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Amazon? Ebay?


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Amazon is asking $90

I don't trust Ebay


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What... kind of controller is it?


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For those of you who don't know SonicFox is 1) black 2) gay 3) a furry and 4) very good at fighting games. In that order. So there's literally no way he's not playing this game! He's the one we will have to defeat!


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It was a simple xbox one controller which I had been using for the past 3 years, but it's finally decided to die on me.

And though I can pick a new one up for $60 from almost anywhere around, I don't feel right dropping that kind of cash just for a controller.
I'm currently looking to see if anyone has either a cheaper one nearby, or a wired controller would work too.
*sigh* but I guess I'd have to deal with whatever is available considering...


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Huh, I might be in luck.
There's a Best Buy selling a wired controller for about $25. Pretty good reviews, and works for PC.

Might give that a chance tomorrow, see if I can't snag it before someone else does.


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let us know how it goes, Z! i am curious as to how this herds game works

if you do make it into EVO, maybe we will sponsor you, hehe c:


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Moony! Do you own the game? I could teach you how fighting games work!

We could go to EVO together!


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no... sadly, i do not :c

i can play okay Smash Brothers! i also am okay at Soul Calibur.

i used to be quite good at Super Street Fighter, and then later on, Street Fighter IV. i would play Chun-Li in the former, and Cammy in the latter.

i also am good at Marvel vs. Capcom 2.

...i wouldn't say though that i am great. i just know how to play okay.


I think you have enough understanding of fighting games to play TFH then Moony.

It's more like Street Fighter than those others you mentioned, with a few mechanics from other games.

Also, did you know that "Chun-Li" means "Beautiful spring"?


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>beautiful spring

Well her up-punch can be like getting hit by a car suspension spring so maybe thats why.


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春 - pronounced "Chwen" with an upward inflection

means "Spring" like the season

麗 - means pretty, or beautiful, often used in the term "美麗" - beautiful/pretty. Pronounced "Li" or "Lee" with a downward inflection

Name means more along the lines of a "Spring Beauty" or "Pretty Like the Spring"


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What about Tianhuo? What's that mean?

She is a Longma. Half dragon, half horse.


that was me, forgot my tripcode for a minute.


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天 - pronounced "Tien" [as in, Tien Shin Han from Dragon Ball]. High inflection.

means "Sky" like, the sky is blue. Can also mean heaven, in a figurative sense, as in "going up to the spirit in the sky."

火 - pronounced "hwoh". bouncing inflection [medium to low, to medium inflection].

means "fire." No other meaning, really. Can figuratively mean angry - you would say "my fire is up" in Chinese.

Full name means ... well, sky fire. No other meaning. You could get poetic and say, it means angry heavens, but this would be seen as melodramatic, and nobody would understand it this way unless it was explained to them.


Long - Ma

Dragon - Horse

i come from the horse family! Ma. i was also born in the year of the horse! And i am a Sagittarius! ponies are in the blood, it seems.

i believe there was some samurai in Japan or something, with the name 龍馬


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Does  Tien ShinHan mean something, Moony? I'm learning a lot!

Yes, I knew "long" meant dragon! It's interesting "longma" literally means "dragon horse".

You know my favorite one. The word for cat is "mao". That's the sound it makes!


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Fun Fact

I suck at Skullgirls again.


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it does in Chinese, but i believe his name is actually a Japanese alliteration of Chinese, which means the meaning is totally different

if you took the exact Japanese, and translated it back to Chinese, it means... uh... rice from Tianjin [the city]

The first word of Tianjin though is the word sky

Tianjin rice is actually quite well known - it's a fried rice. The Japanese version is very popular, where they take the rice, make fried rice, add a Japanese style omelete, and add crab to it

both are good though

i am lead to believe this must be intentional, as chiaotzu, the little doll friend of Tien's... literally means dumpling.

i played that a tiny bit, when it had a free weekend! i remember, i like miss fortune and parasoul. i liked the character parasoul best, but i played best as miss fortune, you could have her head scoot on the floor, and attack, so it is hard to block


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I used to be able to combo with Cerebella but sadly it seems like I'm just super rusty.

Also trying out Big Band to see if I can do well with him, but it seems like there's a lot more in his kit then I'm used to.


>rice from Tianjin [the city]

Many Dragon Ball characters are named after food, so this makes sense. Gohan is also named after rice (ごはん), but it can also mean any meal in general. "asa gohan" (朝ごはん) literally means "morning rice" but is used to mean "breakfast".


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this also takes after Chinese. the word rice "饭" Fan [also, the third character in Tien Shin Han's name] also just means "meal."

So if someone says "eat rice" in Chinese, it means its meal time, not that there will actually necessarily be rice.


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That's really cool!

But did you know... The Chinese word for "cat" is "mao"? And that that is also the sound it makes?


Coinicidentally Moony, TianHuo is the best character in the game. She is also a dragon horse.


I like her and Edgehorse.


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There is little you can do do when a dragon hurls itself at you while on fire.


Have you tried lying to white people? It always works for me.


What? I think you responded to the wrong conversation! White people are here!


Ah, that's ok. They like getting lied to.


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Oh dear, you're right.
how could we forget about him!
Hes probably gonna win it anyway, off mindgames alone.
He always wins. We gotta stop him!


We must choose a champion to defeat SonicFox!

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